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Burley Trailer Travoy vs Nomad?

Old 08-03-17, 11:42 AM
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Burley Trailer Travoy vs Nomad?

Hoping to get some opinions on a Burley bike trailer Travoy or Nomad it would mainly be used in the city for groceries and other stuff and my area has really high bike theft so im not sure which would be the best investment the travoy I could take into the store with me but seems like it could be strange to pull or the nomad looks more normal in a city than the travoy but its a extra thing to lock up when the racks are tiny
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Old 08-03-17, 12:18 PM
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I have an earlier late Worker owned CoOp era Burly Flat bed, they use a 20: wheel with common QR Front hub ,
supported by both ends ..

tension-ed Tarp Fabric deck.

the newer trailers use square tube for the drawbar and the 2 recievers on the frame of the trailer will take 2 caster wheels ..
Now a Private company went to PI to get low labor costs.



Travoy attaches to the seat post and is sort of like a folding fridge dolly, hand truck.

Nomad the bag is included, the Travoy is bare the bags are accessories, bought, extra..


I take My Ortlieb bags off, the grocery checker fills them, then I ride home..

with the Nomad you would leave it outside and bring the (reusable) grocery bags out and load it at the bike-rack..


Maybe you could bring the Travoy into the store and get those bags filled at the check out..









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Old 08-04-17, 08:07 AM
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I live in Washington, D.C. and have the Nomad and the Travoy. Love my Travoy -- makes a lot of sense for the city -- but have ended up primarily using it as a "hand truck" -- walking to a new supermarket three blocks away. I also use the Travoy for lugging camera equipment (again, as a hand truck rather than hooked to a bike). The Travoy's bag options (grocery, luggage, etc.) are absurdly expensive (and I have them all) so factor that into your decision.

The Nomad is a great trailer but for me, in the city, the Travoy works better.



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Old 08-04-17, 11:11 AM
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I have the Burley Travoy. It is a nice trailer and great for getting groceries since you can take it into the store and use it as a handcart. However it also has some disadvantages:
- High center of gravity. If you cut a curve too fast and might bounce one wheel over the curbside it will tilt over.
- As mentioned in some other posts the additional shopping bags are ridiculously expensive.
- The trailer does not have any protection inside the wheels and the floppy bags can easily rub against the wheels and rub a hole in the bag. I have solved this by stuffing an IKEA trash 10 gallon bin inside the standard bag. VARIERA Recycling bin - 10 gallon - IKEA
- Burley has now come up with a solution to protect the wheels rubbing against the bag but you have to purchase these wheel guards extra: https://burley.com/product/travoy-wheel-guards/ . I just ordered some and will check how they work out.
- The seatpost hitch does not work with all bikes. I have a European bike with a 62cm tall frame, 700c wheels, fenders with tail light and a rack. With panniers on the rack I don't enough clearance for the trailer. But I don't like optional rack mount hitch either because it is not compatible with my spring loaded rack. I built me a bracket which holds the seat post hitch and is mounted at the front of the rack.
- The trailer itself is not that sturdy. When loaded it flexes and squeaks quite a bit.

Overall a nice trailer but expensive for what it does.

I am actually thinking of getting a used child trailer and convert it into a cargo trailer like this guy did:
How to convert a child bike trailer into a cargo trailer: an illustrated guide | Marc Perkins
These trailers can be found cheap on Craigslist.

IKEA also has a decent bike trailer but it does not come with any kind of rain cover.
SLADDA Bicycle trailer - IKEA
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Anyone know if you can rig a way to attach bags you already own to a Travoy? I have one bag with the ortlieb system and one with rubber coated pannier hooks. anywhere to clip them on the Travoy or "install" the appropriate sized bar across it?
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Originally Posted by linberl View Post
Anyone know if you can rig a way to attach bags you already own to a Travoy? I have one bag with the ortlieb system and one with rubber coated pannier hooks. anywhere to clip them on the Travoy or "install" the appropriate sized bar across it?
What is the Ortlieb system? Are you talking about the hooks from the Ortlieb panniers for racks? Or do you have a picture?
The Travoy has hooks on the side of the frame. And at one point Burley had a waterproof bag similar to the Ortlieb rollers with hooks on the side. But I think this bag is no longer made.
https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5212/5...d54d7869_b.jpg
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Originally Posted by Harhir View Post
What is the Ortlieb system? Are you talking about the hooks from the Ortlieb panniers for racks? Or do you have a picture?
The Travoy has hooks on the side of the frame. And at one point Burley had a waterproof bag similar to the Ortlieb rollers with hooks on the side. But I think this bag is no longer made.
https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5212/5...d54d7869_b.jpg
Something like this: https://www.arkel-od.com/en/cam-lock-hook-kit.html If there's no "rod" across the top of the bag, then I guess I'd have to rig something that runs across from the hooks. I'm thinking a narrow rod would not affect the folding of the travoy and my bags could then attach to it. I'd use the big bag it comes with on the bottom and then one of my current bags on top (that's my hope). I guess I could alternately find some hook/strap combos that could attach to my bags and then swing out to grab the travoy hooks?
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Originally Posted by linberl View Post
Anyone know if you can rig a way to attach bags you already own to a Travoy? I have one bag with the ortlieb system and one with rubber coated pannier hooks. anywhere to clip them on the Travoy or "install" the appropriate sized bar across it?
Can You Sew?
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Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
Can You Sew?
Only good enough to replace a button, lol. but my local hardware store sells short straps with hooks on the end. I could loop a strap through each end of the bag hardware and maybe hook on the Travoy?
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there are snaps that sew on as easy as a button. SF has a few bag makers, too some Boutique, some that would serve the sailboat owners needs ..

Bags fit in a boat easier than suitcases, then there are bags needed for the sails , and other marine canvas things made just for that one boat.






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I'm a Nomad fan. Friends/family carry weight on their bikes. I generally carry loads with my Nomad. I prefer to have the weight as low as possible, and off the bike. When pulling 20 or 30 pounds with the Nomad (or more), you definitely notice some resistance to acceleration, etc, but the bike itself handles like an unladen bike.

I don't think I'd want a trailer that hooked to my bike higher, as in seatpost, etc. I've ridden my daughter around on a Trail a Bike, and don't really care for that sensation. In my view, the lower the weight the better, and off the bike is better. The trailer being attached at the axle level is more seamless to ride vs. attached at seat post level, in my experience.

Low center of gravity for the win.

I don't live in the inner city, but rather a 90k pop suburb of a fairly large metro. Have trailed the Nomad all over town. Maybe the Travoy would shine in a dense environment like Manhattan, I don't know.

One last thing. The Nomad's 16" wheels are superior to the 12" size on the Travoy on the road, in my opinion. I think the Travoy would be better if I was loading it into an elevator.

The question to ask oneself would be, I think, do you prioritize how the trailer handles when on the bike or when off the bike. If the former, Nomad wins. The latter, advantage Travoy.

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I am getting the Travoy - figured out that if I sign up for REI's Mastercard ($100 gift card offer), and wait til November for the REI 20% off coupon, then my net cost will be $100. At that price it is affordable and makes sense. Even if I end up not using it, I can sell it for more than I paid. So - OP - if you're thinking about the Travoy, feel free to replicate. I don't think that REI has the Nomad, but not absolutely sure.
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Originally Posted by linberl View Post
I am getting the Travoy - figured out that if I sign up for REI's Mastercard ($100 gift card offer), and wait til November for the REI 20% off coupon, then my net cost will be $100. At that price it is affordable and makes sense. Even if I end up not using it, I can sell it for more than I paid. So - OP - if you're thinking about the Travoy, feel free to replicate. I don't think that REI has the Nomad, but not absolutely sure.
You may want to check with REI if the Burley trailer is eligible for the 20% discount because that discount normally excludes bicycles. Not sure if bicycle trailers are excluded as well.
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Originally Posted by linberl View Post
Something like this: https://www.arkel-od.com/en/cam-lock-hook-kit.html If there's no "rod" across the top of the bag, then I guess I'd have to rig something that runs across from the hooks. I'm thinking a narrow rod would not affect the folding of the travoy and my bags could then attach to it. I'd use the big bag it comes with on the bottom and then one of my current bags on top (that's my hope). I guess I could alternately find some hook/strap combos that could attach to my bags and then swing out to grab the travoy hooks?
Now I get it. Thx. No, the trailer has no rod(s) to clip on the Ortlieb bags like you do on a rack. But the trailer comes with a simple bag where you stuff in the panniers.
But Burley also sells straps. When I bought mine used it came with several straps you can tie between the hooks.
https://burley.com/product/kit-tie-down-straps-travoy/
And you might be able to use these to hang the pannier on. Of course not as stable as a rod. But I have never tried this with my Ortlieb bags. I probably would rather buy a dry bag and strap it to the trailer.
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Originally Posted by Harhir View Post
You may want to check with REI if the Burley trailer is eligible for the 20% discount because that discount normally excludes bicycles. Not sure if bicycle trailers are excluded as well.
Yes, it is. I almost bought one last time I had a 20% off coupon but then had unexpected vet bills. I got my GC 4 days after I charged on the REI card (I bought a tire patch kit for 3 bucks). When the Nov. members coupon is released, I'm all over it!
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