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Old 07-26-08, 10:33 PM
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Hunting and carrying your gun

I hope this forum works for this... I live in NW Montana where road closures in National Forests are a good and bad thing, depending on where you stand. Some of my prime grouse hunting land is now closed to vehicles, but that just means only people who want to hike or bike or go horseback can access it, which pretty much leaves the road open to me and my bike. Now my question, how to carry a sideXside shotgun into the wilderness without smashing it. Bar mounts are not an option - I'm looking for a way to carry it in a case that will protect it just in case I crash. I've seen the Montana Scabbard, but again, carrying a gun without case is not an option. A sling is also not an option.

My current idea is to get something like an Arkel hook kit and mount it to a case like this. (It might need some additional help to keep parts from banging into each other.)

I have the Weld folding wire panniers on my rack so another option would be to just strap it across them (perpendicular to the bike frame) - there would be about an 8" overhang on either side.

Anyone out there done something like this or have ideas/insights? I'm kind of a gearhead who prefers to spend way more time building/jurry-rigging something the hard way than just buying something the easy way... unless it's really cheap

Thanks for any advice.

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Old 07-26-08, 11:10 PM
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Old 07-26-08, 11:22 PM
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Hmmm. I think you might consider a surfboard rack, there are several variations on how they mount to the bike, your case might just fit in one nicely... bungie, velcro, etc., bada bing, bada boom! BOOM! BOOM! The Carver Mini made for a shortboard would work for a gun (or electric guitar!) case and you would still be able to use your panniers for other gear. I considered one for my recurve, but went with the Minimalist MacGuyver Method instead. I'm not boonie crashing Montana trails, though, that requires something sturdy like this. You might also be able to get away with using a longer case and keeping the gun fully assembled and ready to load and shoot. Heck, when I lived in MT we would shoot grouse in the head with .22's because they are so stupid and just stand in the road and beg for it.

http://www.carversurfracks.com/csrmini.html

$80 here: http://www.shop.cheka-looka.com/prod...&productId=233

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Old 07-27-08, 09:19 PM
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Ever looked at the old style Leg of Mutton cases?

Might be a bit more compact than modern cases. Probably strap to a rear rack pretty easily. Plus, I've always thought a nice double gun deserves a case like that at some point in its existence.
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Old 07-28-08, 04:43 AM
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S/S and O/U pack down small. Look around until you find something that makes the most of that or make/get something semi-custom. I had a Franchi that had a sweet leather case that was about the size of a bassoon case, taken down it just about disappeared.

A cheap 12 gauge O/U with the barrel cut down to the minimum legal length (18" add .5 just to be sure check your local laws) and selectable triggers would be ideal for all kinds of hunting. You can add insert barrels to shoot .22 .380 and also 12 or .410 and everything in between and an over under usually has better barrel alignment.
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Old 07-28-08, 07:22 AM
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Saw these ;-





Swiss military bikes for all your hunting and gun carrying needs....
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Old 07-28-08, 11:24 AM
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Swiss military bikes for all your hunting and gun carrying needs....
Quite possibly one of the coolest things I have ever seen in my life!
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Originally Posted by Chris H View Post
Ever looked at the old style Leg of Mutton cases?

Might be a bit more compact than modern cases. Probably strap to a rear rack pretty easily. Plus, I've always thought a nice double gun deserves a case like that at some point in its existence.
Sweet case and shootgun, are they yours? It looks like the end of the barrels would be exposed however, am I missing something?

Leave it to the Swiss to come up with a bike mount for a grenade launcher(?) and 50 cal machine gun. I'd be right at home with the Montana Militia

The Carver's Mini is just plain elegant, but more suited for when I need that grenade launcher

Thanks for the ideas, please keep them coming. I'm looking around for a good case on the cheap - hopefully the two aren't mutually exclusive.
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I would just get a scabbard intended for mounting on a saddle and strap it to one side of a rear rack. If your worried about the stock getting dinged, put it in a gun sock before you drop it in the scabbard. You might throw a grocery pannier on the other side of the rack to carry your birds in.
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Originally Posted by Chris H View Post
Ever looked at the old style Leg of Mutton cases?

Might be a bit more compact than modern cases. Probably strap to a rear rack pretty easily. Plus, I've always thought a nice double gun deserves a case like that at some point in its existence.
I didn't know about these, not being much of a shotgun guy (though shotguns are obviously the best choice for birds, .22's aren't legal for hunting them in most states. MT allowed or allows them for grouse), but wow, sweet! Could actually put one of those IN the pannier, maybe sticking out a bit (or on the rack) and you are good to go. It appears fully enclosed to me, with the gun taken down and in two padded slots inside.

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Old 07-29-08, 10:15 PM
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This assignment has Xtracycle written all over it. Plus you'll be able to much more easily carry the rest of your gear up there, as well as whatever you bring back with you.

http://www.xtracycle.com/

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Old 09-11-08, 09:53 AM
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Was this you that hit the bear in Montana? http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...S_BEAR?SITE=AP He needed a gun with him on that ride!
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Old 09-11-08, 12:18 PM
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Two words: Waffle bike.
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Something that big and long just seems as though it should be carried on either an Xtracycle or a trailer.

A single wheel like the BOB Ibex, or Extrawheel seems like it would be well suited to this. And again it would allow you to carry back birds etc... Not cheap but an option. If you're THAT into DIY depending on your skills and materials you might be able to rig something up with an extra wheel and some scrap metal.
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Originally Posted by bikinpolitico View Post
Two words: Waffle bike.
I think that is likely the best 8 minutes of video on youtube.

It was like Salvador Dali meets Sheldon Brown meets IHOP.

I can only wonder, "Why didn't I think of a bike-trailer-towed generator." To power a waffle iron.
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Was this you that hit the bear in Montana? http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...S_BEAR?SITE=AP He needed a gun with him on that ride!
That's pretty hilarious. Not me. I am a teacher and do bike to work every day when it's not snowy/icy but the only things I ever come close to hitting on the trail are deer and pheasants. Too bad they're in city limits.

Still working on it. I do have parts to build my own Xtracycle, it's finding the time to make it during the school year. So far I haven't had to bike past any gates, they seem to repel rednecks and we have the roads to walk all by ourselves - no need to go deep into the woods yet. Plus everyone is out bow hunting... except me.
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Look around for a used child trailer and convert it into a utility trailer.
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I live in Bozeman, MT

And I am setting up my Big Dummy for hunting. after using it this summer for commuting, errands, shopping, etc. it is now time to undergo a transformation. I will be hunting deer primarily, and some of the places I go are very practical for bikes. I have hunted successfully from a bike before, but after the kill, transport was awkward. The BD should work out much better, I have my fingers crossed.

For rifle transport, I need a quickdraw option. I have hauled over my shoulder before, but it really messes with posture and ability to travel through rough terrian. When the rifle is in a pack, it is not quick to access, and while fumbling, the quarry bounds away. I finally found a scabbard today that shows great promise. It is a molded plastic thing called a Kolpin 007 gun boot. It pops apart, and I plan on using just the lower half. The next item to find is a large, strong, front rack that is affordable. I just haven't been able to swing it yet, but have my eye on an Old Man Mountain Cold Springs front rack. I plan on lashing the gun boot to the side of the rack in a verticle position in front of the handlebar. Anyone know of a less expensive, but large and strong rack out there?

Game transport will be by a larger homemade snapdeck plus wideloaders to lash the feet to.

I understand what Dave needs, and maybe this direction makes sense? Does for me anyway.
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Quite possibly one of the coolest things I have ever seen in my life!
Agreed. Buy one used here. Better pics here.

(Apologies for the slight thread drift.)



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This case is intended for mounting to an ATV cargo rack (with optional mount), so I'm thinking it could be adapted for use on a bike rack.
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I shoot rifles and one in particular haul on me Nashbar Trailer,, in padded case ,,, tied down, but confess off roading with it is minimal.
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What I've got so far

I ended up ordering a slightly different case, the Plano Bow-Max Arrow case. It's got three pillars (for extra support), has the exact same dimensions as the Takedown Gun case and is cheaper . The arrow holders are removable and I put some foam in to hold the gun in place (as you can see in the first picture) The extra pillars keep the stock and barrel from hitting which might have been possible in the Takedown Case. I have collapsible wire panniers on either side of the bike rack and a Burley trailer hitch. When I open up the pannier the gun case fits in and rests on the trailer hitch. These photos are just a mock-up with only one rope, but you get the idea. I might not even need to open up the pannier but then the case doesn't rest so well on the hitch. I'll have to play with it a bit.

The Plano Gunslinger or the Kolpin Gun Boot look like good options, especially for when you come around the corner face to face with a grouse and need to get a shot off quickly. BTW... what were you guys doing browsing ATV gear?

Greg, if you're only going to be carrying a gun, why not get a cheap rack? The cheapest ones around can hold at least 25 lbs. If you're carrying an animal, that's another thing, but 50 lbs on a front rack (Old Man) seems a bit dodgy.
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pictures to come soon. I was given an old well-used Blackburn Rear Rack and jury rigged it to my fork as an experiment. Just got the gun boot lashed on and it handles fairly well with no wiggling. The rifle tends to settle deeper into the boot from vibration, causing the rifle to stick when withdrawn, so I think a block of foam placed into the bottom of the boot will stop the rifle's downward migration. It's all handy and quickdraw. Next I must make a new rear deck with plenty of tiedown holes.
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first attempt at loading a photo

When I first set up the scabbard and a multifunctional plywood snapdeck.
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gad that picture is tiny. I made it 640X480. That size works well on mtbr.com. What is the best size for posting on bikeforums? EuroJoe pictures of the Swiss bikes seem about right.

I've got a few hunting pictures to post that might be entertaining. Need some pixel beta from you photo posting veterans.
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