CETMA Cargo Bike
12-06-10, 07:59 AM
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It's an unfortunate reality that there are not thousands of people on the net waiting to research and answer your every question for free. Every time you asked a question it was answered. Perhaps not precisely the way you wanted, but that's life. If you look around this sub-forum any reasonable question gets answered pretty fast. So if you question didn't get answered the way you wanted you need to consider that you didn't ask a question that was specific enough to be answered in any meaningful way by the folks here.
If you ask a specific question that people here have an answer for they'll help you out as best they can:
If you ask a specific question that people here have an answer for they'll help you out as best they can:
hi i'm new to this forum and need a little help. i'm going car free in the uk (sounds like a possible album title here). i have a commuter bike so that's covered but i need a utility to:
A. haul not too heavy stuff a bit
B. haul 2 kids (ages 6 and 3) a lot
C. shopping for a family of 7
D. family outings
E. anything else i can't think of including possibly occasionally standing in for my commute bike -10 miles each way.
D. would be nice to be able to use in british weather ie. rain-as in keeping the kids dry
any help would be greatly appreciated as i am new to the utility/cargo bike thing although i am a fairly experienced cyclist. thanks.
A. haul not too heavy stuff a bit
B. haul 2 kids (ages 6 and 3) a lot
C. shopping for a family of 7
D. family outings
E. anything else i can't think of including possibly occasionally standing in for my commute bike -10 miles each way.
D. would be nice to be able to use in british weather ie. rain-as in keeping the kids dry
any help would be greatly appreciated as i am new to the utility/cargo bike thing although i am a fairly experienced cyclist. thanks.
I own a Big Dummy and a CETMA cargo bike [similar to a Bullit]:
CETMA is better:
- for hauling young kids
- easy to keep 'em dry with a tent over the cargo box
- easy to haul groceries
- great for large loose loads
- great for square bulky boxy loads [chest freezer]
Big Dummy is better:
- for hauling adults/older kids [teens]
- long loads [ladder]
- commuting/general purpose riding
- touring
- mountain biking
You can certainly haul groceries or big boxes with the Big Dummy and you can certainly commute with the CETMA..., but they are clearly different and therefore one stands out in certain situations over the other. If you want a bike that can also haul cargo/kids go with the Big Dummy. If you want a bike that is only about hauling cargo/kids get the CETMA [Bullit].
CETMA is better:
- for hauling young kids
- easy to keep 'em dry with a tent over the cargo box
- easy to haul groceries
- great for large loose loads
- great for square bulky boxy loads [chest freezer]
Big Dummy is better:
- for hauling adults/older kids [teens]
- long loads [ladder]
- commuting/general purpose riding
- touring
- mountain biking
You can certainly haul groceries or big boxes with the Big Dummy and you can certainly commute with the CETMA..., but they are clearly different and therefore one stands out in certain situations over the other. If you want a bike that can also haul cargo/kids go with the Big Dummy. If you want a bike that is only about hauling cargo/kids get the CETMA [Bullit].
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12-06-10, 10:36 AM
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For what its worth, the question was directed at CETMA. The question was valid. I would have thought that a frame company would be able to tell a new comer to the community roughly what it takes to complete a frame. I would suggest that if you don't like a question or think it is stupid then refrain from responding.
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Vik, I gotta say, your setup is one of the most beautiful I've seen. The black/white contrast somehow enhances the triangles in the frame. I'm so happy to read your review/feedback and see the bike in action.
It KILLS me that I wasn't set up to install one of these:
Nonetheless, your bike sounds like it's getting a good workout. I'm sending a cover and new bushings to you this week, and I'll see if I can get a 20" wheel together...
It KILLS me that I wasn't set up to install one of these:
Nonetheless, your bike sounds like it's getting a good workout. I'm sending a cover and new bushings to you this week, and I'll see if I can get a 20" wheel together...
Now I just have to get off my butt and DIY a front fender from coroplast. I'm also going to stealth mount a Airzound Horn for truck like noise making!
I'm waiting on a front hydraulic brake to come in so a can ditch the spongy v-brakes.
It will be pretty sweet when I get finished.
12-08-10, 09:11 PM
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Couldn't you use components from a complete bike? That would save a ton of money. It wouldn't finish the bike, but it would get you close.
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That would be my suggestion, you could use everything except the front wheel, and maybe the seatpost. It would be much cheaper to buy a complete bike from BikesDirect, strip the parts, and keep the frame as a spare.
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You'd just need a 20" front wheel and tire.
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Lance, if you're still subscribed to this thread, I was daydreaming and lusting after one of your bikes, and I noticed something:
None of them have a front derailer. Now, maybe they're out there and I just didn't notice, but I'm guessing it's just because nobody's put one on.... is it possible to put a regular clamp-on FD? The reason I ask, is that I'm not sure a cargo bike would work well for me with only a single chainring. I could be wrong, but just wanting to know if that's even an option. And the reason I'm posting it here is in case somebody else hadn't thought of it yet, but wanted to know the answer.
Keep doing what you're doing, man! One of these days I will get a cargo bike, and I'm hoping when I do, I can afford one of yours.
None of them have a front derailer. Now, maybe they're out there and I just didn't notice, but I'm guessing it's just because nobody's put one on.... is it possible to put a regular clamp-on FD? The reason I ask, is that I'm not sure a cargo bike would work well for me with only a single chainring. I could be wrong, but just wanting to know if that's even an option. And the reason I'm posting it here is in case somebody else hadn't thought of it yet, but wanted to know the answer.
Keep doing what you're doing, man! One of these days I will get a cargo bike, and I'm hoping when I do, I can afford one of yours.
01-03-11, 11:11 AM
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Lance, if you're still subscribed to this thread, I was daydreaming and lusting after one of your bikes, and I noticed something:
None of them have a front derailer. Now, maybe they're out there and I just didn't notice, but I'm guessing it's just because nobody's put one on.... is it possible to put a regular clamp-on FD? The reason I ask, is that I'm not sure a cargo bike would work well for me with only a single chainring. I could be wrong, but just wanting to know if that's even an option. And the reason I'm posting it here is in case somebody else hadn't thought of it yet, but wanted to know the answer.
Keep doing what you're doing, man! One of these days I will get a cargo bike, and I'm hoping when I do, I can afford one of yours.
None of them have a front derailer. Now, maybe they're out there and I just didn't notice, but I'm guessing it's just because nobody's put one on.... is it possible to put a regular clamp-on FD? The reason I ask, is that I'm not sure a cargo bike would work well for me with only a single chainring. I could be wrong, but just wanting to know if that's even an option. And the reason I'm posting it here is in case somebody else hadn't thought of it yet, but wanted to know the answer.
Keep doing what you're doing, man! One of these days I will get a cargo bike, and I'm hoping when I do, I can afford one of yours.
I assume you can mount a clamp on FD, but now that you mention it I don't recall seeing a CETMA with one.
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I think a lot of folks are running IGHs on cargo bikes to get the super strong undished wheel and the ability to shift while stopped. The CETMA cargo bike now comes with an EBB to allow you to run an IGH without a chain tensioner.
I assume you can mount a clamp on FD, but now that you mention it I don't recall seeing a CETMA with one.
I assume you can mount a clamp on FD, but now that you mention it I don't recall seeing a CETMA with one.
I know it's a moot point if I can't afford one to start with, but I would love to have one of these someday, seriously. I don't see why you couldn't use a FD on it, just needs a cable stop and you could use a MTB top-pull one.
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I was going to put a front derailleur on mine except that once I actually rode it I found that I could get up hills with a 33x34 and I stopped trying to pedal faster before I spun out 33x11. Realistically I cannot see too many folks pedalling cargo bikes up 30% grades. If I was to upgrade now, it would likely be to a rohloff and it would be for the reliablilty and the stronger wheel, not the extra geers. As it sits, I haven't had any wheel troubles with my current wheel which I had built for me by a very skilled builder.
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