Standalone 

When I think of the loads of 12 beers + 1.5 L of wine I grab on the way home on Friday for the week's libations for my wife and me, I think I could put a shuttle in a backpack just about as easily...

I do hear you on the no trailer thing-- I should post a photo of what my trailer looks like folded. A bag over it, and you'd probably be ok on any bus. However, that plus an amp and gig gear plus getting your bike on the front rack of the bus might be too much.

I love GB stuff. I play my old school GK 800RB through a GB Neox 212.


You might consider going with two mini neodymium 10's to hang off of each side of a rack, and play in a stack. The stack would get you more tone, probably more bass, a speaker up higher close to your ear... trade your 115 or 112 in for two 110's, and run them off your shuttle. Sell your cab, stack two of these or something similar.... https://www.bass.se/2009/neo110.htm or..... https://www.flitecabs.com/bass/ two 15 lb 10" cabs would spread the weight around.

I think if you bought some light poplar plywood, drilled out appropriate holes for attachment to your dahon's rack and for sturdy straps for your cab, you'd have a good stable platform for the cab. The Dahon curve I traded in (towards my madsen) had two braze ons on the head tube for a front rack. I think if you put the cab on a back rack, adding a front rack to store your tuner/wires/various gigging gear, you'd balance the weight on the back for handling purposes.

Carry the shuttle on your back though. I think sitting it on a front rack would jar it.

steversk

I know you've said no trailers but have you seen the new Burley Travoy? It seems made for urban biking like you mention. It may be possible to haul it upstairs using the wheels since it is similar to a dolly. I have no experience with one but the idea is intriguing.

folderster

Standalone, you are cracking me up... one step at a time! It took me 30 years of bass playing to pare down to a rig this small, I'm not going to start building it back up quite yet. The Genz has done just fine for what I need it for so far.

Lots of great ideas here (except for the people who keep telling me to get a trailer or panniers, y'all are just messing with me at this point!).

I am going to stop responding until I can try some things out. Will report back.

Standalone 

just trying to kill two birds with one stone with your $6-700. 's fun shopping w/ your money...

ron521

The problem is not that you are failing to articulate properly. The problem is the mentality of the shop employees you are dealing with. They are programmed to politely allow you to finish speaking, then to steer you to something which THEY have to sell.

Here is a review of a Kronan which describes riding it with up to 123 lbs (actually, the writers wife) on the rear rack, for a date and shopping, plus more stuff on the optional front rack. I don't own a Kronan, but I admire a tough, rugged bicycle which can withstand such severe duty...I'd never try to carry 123 lbs on the back of any of my bicycles. The price for a 3 speed Kronan is just $600 plus shipping. A single speed is less.

https://www.living-room.org/kronan.html

And here is the U.S. website, with technical details and images

https://kronanusa.com/

folderster

ron, thank you--that bike is my fantasy bike. but not at 51 pounds! if they could get it to 35 i'd bite without hesitation!

ron521

You might be able to modify it to approach that figure...replace the stainless steel rims, steel crankset, steel stem and steel handlebars with aluminum parts, and perhaps replace the tires with Fat Franks or something similar.
Just the alloy rims and better tires would make a very noticeable difference, the rest could be done a little at a time, as you felt like it.
And remember...an ounce saved on the rims and tires is worth a pound saved elsewhere.
You'd have more invested in it, but perhaps still a lot less than many "Dutch Bikes". And in a world where Kronans are thought to be nearly identical, you'd have one different from ALL the rest : )
Or, you could get a Retrovelo, which already has the lighter weight stuff from the factory...

https://www.retrovelo.de/home.html

or possibly, a Public...

https://publicbikes.com/

squirtdad

you could look at workman https://worksmancycles.com/shopsite_s.../cruisers.html

setting one up with alloy rims, front drum, rear 3 spd, fenders, front and rear baskets is aboutr $680.... you can customize your own bike (singld speed, 3 speed, 7 speed, etc) still have but made in USA

another option is to find an older bike and roll you own.... this started out as a '82 niskhiki (bought new) and is now a "japanese 8 spd" the only original parts are the frame and the seat post. it work for me..... I don't carry 20x20 cubes much (would have to practice the swing the leg over the front of the bike) but have carried up to 50 lb bags of pottingn soile (which is pushing it a bit)

aggiegrads

I would seriously look at Arkel's mounting system. You can buy the mounting system by itself for a reasonable cost. This can be screwed directly into a cabinet, and be mounted to a sturdy rack. If you can mount the system to your rig, I'm sure that it would be sufficient to hold the amp.

https://www.arkel-od.com/us/all-categ...ook-kit-1.html

LeeG

folderster, check out that Specialized Haul. I wish it was in 26" wheels and the rear wheel had 14g. spokes but it might be the ticket. For heavy/bulky loads it's nice having a quasi-step through design when you can't swing your leg over the back. I just delivered on my 56cm 26" wheeled LHT a load of books in four medium panniers and a square milkcrate of books on the rear rack. Pretty sure that exceeds your total weight package by 25lbs and it was fine. Putting a load on front low riders can go a long way to stabilizing a big bulky item on the rear rack and I'm guessing the extra long chainstays of the Haul should make it even better. It's not a Big Dummy but it's a light bike that "should" be able to carry a load. I haven't had a chance to try one out or get feedback but it looks good on paper.

rench123

biking with a 20" cube? Trailer would be ideal, but like you said, no trailer for you.

The best thing I've seen is for you to make up one of these:


(its not my picture or idea, I just found it on the internet sometime ago.) It's a custom porteur fork made for a 700c bike frame. The small 20" front wheel keeps the load low and stable.

drmweaver2

That is one of the most truly "elegant" solutions I've ever seen.

Then again, here's another custom design - not as fancily constructed, perhaps, but quite functional/similar in design.
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...1#post10930568

Standalone 

Excellent. I think these would sell well if produced cheaply enough. Kind of the reverse of the Xtracycle. Imagine a bike w/both...!

Just yesterday I was thinking about how useful the 20" rear wheel design of my madsen is, and wondering how a 2x20" utility bike design would do. A rougher ride might be one problem it would face. Another would be a market unwilling to see 20" wheels as cool.

EDIT: Hold on... that's not even a 20" wheel, is it...?

AsanaCycles

check this guy out
he's in Oakland
https://www.cleaverbikes.com/wp-conte...truck-bike.jpg

https://www.cleaverbikes.com/

jester711

I was doing some random Googling for Utility bike pictures, and I stumbled on this:
Double Dutch bike.
https://www.dutch-id.com/transporter.shtml

Lorrie
https://www.dutch-id.com/lorri.shtml
I have no idea how much either costs, weighs, or if you can even get one anywhere outside of Europe.