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Old 02-06-12, 01:09 PM
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The meth lab onboard the trailer was surely illegal. But the question about the tail lights is another matter. I'm not sure if he had a light on the bike at all. Whether the trailer needs it's own tail light, I don't know. It looks in the picture like the trailer has two fine reflectors.

I chose to post this story mainly because it was off-beat and unusual. This is not a situation the average cyclist would have to contend with (a light out, yes, a meth lab in the trailer, no).
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Old 02-06-12, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by BeastRider View Post
small and mid-size cities most definitely know the who's who in their communities. I certainly have no problem being stopped and I would expect that police would do their best to keep repeat offenders off the streets.
Unbeknownst to the cops, lets assume the 'offender' has paid his dues for previous crimes, and has been clean for weeks. So are you implying that it's OK for the cops to still follow and detain them... simply based on past offenses?

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If you aren't doing anything wrong then you have nothing to be concerned about.
Oh really??..

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I am sure that, even in smaller communities, the police can find a reason to stop you.
Indeed - to include fabricated & bogus claims of wrong-doing. I can cite numerous examples, in addition to the two (verifiable) times it has happened to me. Sadly, most Americans are ignorant of the laws and oblivious to their constitutional rights - just swallow the BS and pay the fine... eh?

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Old 02-06-12, 04:00 PM
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But, that usually doesn't happen unless they happen to recognize you as a regular "guest" of the court or jail system......
Or they recognize you because your sister married a cop after having a ten year affair with him, and you being strongly opposed to that become someone they dislike, despite the fact that you've not even had a parking ticket in the past they feel it's their duty to follow you for miles on end and glare at you when passing in grocery stores...generally trying to intimidate you.

Theres good and bad in every facet of life.
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Old 02-06-12, 04:03 PM
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My perception on police officers has not been pleasant since living here. Sure Ive meet and been friends with some very nice normal people who happened to be police officers. But the power trippers who look like Gestapo scare me.
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once again it follows the old maxim: If you're going to break the law, don't break the law while doing it (or as I've also heard it, only break one law at a time).

You don't speed and drive like a jackass when you're transporting illegal substances unless you want to get caught and you make sure your vehicle is up to code. Just common sense. But then, who accused meth dealers (and the sort of folks who think making something as volatile as a meth lab mobile is a good idea) of having a lot of common sense?
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Old 02-07-12, 02:11 AM
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I don't know Harry- with power comes the ability to abuse power. I find the idea that I could get pulled over for no apparent reason scary. I'm not referring to this situation in particular but as a whole.
True enough, but as has been said before and as Beast Rider has said. If the town is small enough the police knows who the local trouble makers are and will pay special attention to them. Is it always fair, no as people do have the capacity to change. Do they change, no, not always, but they still have the capacity to change.

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That's certainly true. Although, even when you are out driving a car, if an officer follows you long enough you are bound to make some sort of minor mistake giving them the probable cause needed for a traffic stop. But, that usually doesn't happen unless they happen to recognize you as a regular "guest" of the court or jail system......
Agreed, as you've said in a "small town" the local police know who the local trouble makers are and pays extra attention to them. Especially as you said if they're frequent, repeat "guests" of the court/jail system.
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Old 02-07-12, 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by hotbike View Post
The meth lab onboard the trailer was surely illegal. But the question about the tail lights is another matter. I'm not sure if he had a light on the bike at all. Whether the trailer needs it's own tail light, I don't know. It looks in the picture like the trailer has two fine reflectors.

I chose to post this story mainly because it was off-beat and unusual. This is not a situation the average cyclist would have to contend with (a light out, yes, a meth lab in the trailer, no).
I agree, I do not know if a bicycle trailer like a trailer pulled behind a car is required to have it's own taillight or not. Here's another good question, given that trailers pulled behind cars, pickup trucks, motorcycles, or RVs are required to have license plates what about trailers pulled behind a bicycle?

Trailers are NOT (at least the last time I checked) motorized vehicles, yet, they're required to have license plates and presumably (in states with inspections) to be inspected and registered. So why does it appear that bicycle trailers are exempt?
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Old 02-07-12, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by himespau View Post
once again it follows the old maxim: If you're going to break the law, don't break the law while doing it (or as I've also heard it, only break one law at a time).

You don't speed and drive like a jackass when you're transporting illegal substances unless you want to get caught and you make sure your vehicle is up to code. Just common sense. But then, who accused meth dealers (and the sort of folks who think making something as volatile as a meth lab mobile is a good idea) of having a lot of common sense?
I was talking with a person at a LBS who admitted to engaging in some contra-legal activities. And admitted that when he's engaged in those contra-legal activities that he'll be uber respectful towards law enforcement. But when he is "walking the straight and narrow" he'll be all fire and brimstone on them. As well as carrying dog biscuits in his bags, I guess in an attempt to confuse any K-9 that may be called to sniff his bike and bags.

To me it sounds like his activities when "walking the straight and narrow" would lead him to be on the police radar and that anytime that they saw him that they'd find some reason to pull him over.
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Old 02-09-12, 07:34 PM
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As far as the lighting issue goes I would check the ordinances in whatever town you live in. I know from living here in Newport News that the laws written vary widely for city to city. Personally, I wouldn't go ANYWHERE at night without something on the front AND rear to make it easier for cars to see me. Far too many times I see people out there with absolutely nothing. Crazy if you ask me.
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Old 02-09-12, 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Digital_Cowboy View Post
I agree, I do not know if a bicycle trailer like a trailer pulled behind a car is required to have it's own taillight or not. Here's another good question, given that trailers pulled behind cars, pickup trucks, motorcycles, or RVs are required to have license plates what about trailers pulled behind a bicycle?

Trailers are NOT (at least the last time I checked) motorized vehicles, yet, they're required to have license plates and presumably (in states with inspections) to be inspected and registered. So why does it appear that bicycle trailers are exempt?
I have no idea what your state says, but in Ohio, the definition of a trailer is:
(M) “Trailer” means any vehicle without motive power that is designed or used for carrying property or persons wholly on its own structure and for being drawn by a motor vehicle, and includes any such vehicle that is formed by or operated as a combination of a semitrailer and a vehicle of the dolly type such as that commonly known as a trailer dolly, a vehicle used to transport agricultural produce or agricultural production materials between a local place of storage or supply and the farm when drawn or towed on a public road or highway at a speed greater than twenty-five miles per hour, and a vehicle that is designed and used exclusively to transport a boat between a place of storage and a marina, or in and around a marina, when drawn or towed on a public road or highway for a distance of more than ten miles or at a speed of more than twenty-five miles per hour. “Trailer” does not include a manufactured home or travel trailer.
As you see, trailer does not apply to a bicycle trailer. We are not a motor vehicle and the rest of it doesn't apply to bicycles either.
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Old 02-10-12, 02:19 AM
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Here are the Indiana state bicycle laws. I was born and raised in South Bend and the surrounding area. It is a rough place these days. He could have been pulled over for not having a headlight it sounds like. It could have been that or not having a bell either..........its the law.

http://www.in.gov/legislative/ic/200...ar21/ch11.html
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Old 02-10-12, 04:59 AM
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Here in Virginia the law regarding lights is as follows.....

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Every bicycle ridden between sunset and sunrise must have at least one white headlamp with the light being visible at least 500 feet to the front. The bicycle must have a red reflector on the rear visible at least 600 feet to the rear. On roads posted with speed limit of 35 mph or greater, the bicyclist must additionally be equipped with at least one red taillight visible from 500 feet to the rear. Taillights may be steady or blinking, are allowed under all conditions, and may be attached to the cycle or rider.

Bicycles ridden on highways must have brakes which will skid the wheels on dry, level, clean pavement.

Reference: §§46.2-1015,46.2-1066


That's the STATE laws. There are also numerous local ordinances that people should look into as well. Those have a tendency to be quite varied from city to city.
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