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Xtracycle base bike differences

Old 06-19-12, 04:19 PM
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Xtracycle base bike differences

I've hitched up my Xtracycle to a steel MTB (On-one Inbred) and I'm very pleased with the result. I really like how it feels but it is a bit noodly once the weight is piled on.

I'm not expecting to get Yuba type stability with heavier loads and accept there's a trade off to be made between unloaded and loaded feel but I wonder how much difference the base bike makes. For example would using something like a Thorn Sherpa or 26" wheeled LHT as a base bike be likely to be any better once the load weight is increased?
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Old 06-20-12, 07:26 AM
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Xtracycles are pretty nice, but Yuba sells just frames. The Yuba frame + all the parts off your current bike (assuming it's not a '29er') would be cheaper than getting another bike to attach it to. You definitely want 26" wheels, they are massively stronger than 700c, especially when paired with something like 2.35 Big Apples/Fat Franks. Well, I should say, it's not that 700c are that much weaker than 26" wheels, it's more than it's pretty much impossible to find 700c wheels with more than 36 spokes, while finding 26" ones with 48 spokes isn't all that hard to do, and a 48 spoke rear will definitely also help stiffen things up when loaded.

I'm still saving for a Yuba myself, but my current ride is an older Cannondale 3.0 frame MTB from 1992. It's got huge diameter aluminium tubes and when I load up the rear rack I can definitely feel it flex, and it's without a doubt a much stiffer frame than either of the two bikes you mentioned. I don't think you'll get any appreciable difference by swapping the base bike. Either save up and get a pre-kitted Yuba, or swap all of your current components onto a Yuba frame for a good bit less money.
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Old 06-20-12, 11:00 AM
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I have to agree-I have mine setup on a stiff aluminum Trek 6000. I don't feel much difference when empty,but 50+ lbs and I feel it squirm,but not so much when sitting and spinning,more like when out of the saddle cranking a bigger-than-I-orta-gear. I ride steel frames only (other than the Xtracycle) BECAUSE they're more flexy,which makes em more forgiving on my old spinal injuries,but man I couldn't see runnign my Xtra on one of those...I'm also running the Trek's stock (12 year old) 36 hole wheel out back for now as well,I can definately see a 48 spoker helping....next year hopefully
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Old 06-20-12, 11:28 AM
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I was very tempted by a Yuba frameset, but the used XC kit came and I thought I'd give it a go again.

I've had 2 in the past and a Mk1 Yuba. I never really used them as I still had the temptation of a car. Now we're lucky enough to be car free, in a couple of weeks I've already used the XC more than the early ones I had put together, when still burdened with a car.

I've had a brief test ride on a Mk4 Yuba and definitely preferred it offer my previous Mk1. I had a shot on a Big Dummy at the same time and whilst I wanted to prefer it I actually liked the Yuba more, though that's as likely to be down to bars, seat and tyres.

I'm currently running Pasela 1.75" tyres on my XC, which aren't necessarily ideal for heavy loads, but I'm sure they add to the sweetness of the current set up, which I'm happy to use as an everyday rider, rather than just when there's a big load to carry.

On the other hand I tried my Mk1 Yuba with 2 x 200lb passengers and it coped just fine, on the flat

Ideally I'd like to try the Yuba with the Pasela's to see how that affects the feel.

Anyway sounds like the short answer is that if I want to loose the noodliness at heavier loads then BD or Yuba is the way to go and I need to consider whether that might compromise the sweet ride when unloaded that I currently have.
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Old 06-20-12, 12:06 PM
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Trek Transport is a nice cargo long tail..

I thought the Radish was a combo of a frame made for the addition of the Xtracycle..
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the yuba's cranks are more forward than the BD, and probably most any XC convert.
that is, the Yuba uses more of a "cranks forward" design, which can be found on bikes like Rans and a variety of "cruiser" bikes.

position of the bottom bracket, seat tube angle, swept back handlebars, all help to produce a particular ride experience. in that way the yuba is awesome.

I myself have a BD.
I built one for a friend
and his wife has a Yuba
they are a car free family with 2 kids, and two full time jobs.
while tim rides the BD, mindy like the yuba
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(of course this would assume money wasn't an issue,which you said,like me,it is) Don't forget the new smaller-but-just-as-capable Yuba coming soon,too... I know if cost hadn't been an object,and as much as I dig my Xtra,I woulda bought a Mundo (and am planning/hoping to next year). The Kona Ute looks great to my eye too (in addition to the Trek mentioned),FWIW.
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Thanks for the helpful responses.

I think my way forward is to carry on with my current set up and see how often
the flex is an issue for me. If it's fairly often I'll probably go with a Yuba
frameset.

In the meantime I think I'll add a used childback tandem to the stable. It's
pretty hilly round here and going any distance I'll be glad of the extra help.

As an aside I was really pleased to discover today that the old 2 child trailer
languishing in the shed has a hitch that easily connects to the XC. Great
combination for the recycling centre run.
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