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I-Like-To-Bike 07-06-12 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by BeastRider (Post 14430546)
If you THINK that your bike is a pile of tubes and machined parts then, perhaps, you shouldn't be riding.

Why is that? This is the utility cycling list is it not?

BeastRider 07-06-12 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike (Post 14447090)
I'm surprised you have such success with that line of hot air to store personnel. I would have expected them to laugh at your bluster, if not tell you to get lost. What makes you think any store is responsible for providing bike racks, or responsible for your property outside?


I never said it worked all the time did I?....

bugly64 07-14-12 05:48 PM

I lock if I can't reach out and touch my BD or if my wife isn't standing beside it.

MadCityCyclist 07-14-12 09:59 PM


I have a question about locks, and the U-Locks in particular. I've only looked at a few in the local Walmart. They seem heavy and kinda unwieldy. But I'm quickly getting fed up with my $10 combination cable lock. The damn thing is so twisty that it's always a pain to untangle it and try to thread it thru everything. But the U-Locks seem kinda short...
Some companies make extra long U-locks, one of my most-used U-locks is that type. I bought it because I sometime use front panniers which add a little extra distance between the bike rack and my front tire & frame. The trade off is that it makes it a little easier for a bike thief to use a leverage-type attack, but if the U-lock has a highly rated level of security it helps negate that problem, especially if other bikers are using Wally World and cable locks, which will be much easier for a bike thief to defeat.

BeastRider 07-15-12 03:26 AM

Although I do have a good U-lock, I am still a firm believer in the old style cable and master lock way of locking things up. Run it through both wheels, through the frame, around whatever object is there and most thieves-of-convenience will avoid it. That, and when I do have to lock up, I am usually not going to be inside anyplace for very long......

Bahnzo 07-16-12 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by BeastRider (Post 14482729)
Although I do have a good U-lock, I am still a firm believer in the old style cable and master lock way of locking things up.

That's exactly what I wound up going with. I went to the local Home Depot and got a 6' steel cable and a master lock. Overall cheaper than what's available at Walmart or the LBS and probably just as good.

PJCB 07-16-12 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike (Post 14447090)
I'm surprised you have such success with that line of hot air to store personnel. I would have expected them to laugh at your bluster, if not tell you to get lost. What makes you think any store is responsible for providing bike racks, or responsible for your property outside?

This, along with the other two prickly comments leads me to believe that you plan to be ornery and combative, regardless.

BeastRider 07-17-12 06:30 AM


Originally Posted by PJCB (Post 14488534)
This, along with the other two prickly comments leads me to believe that you plan to be ornery and combative, regardless.


Hence the reason that this particular user is on my "blocked" list. Evidently the old saying "if you don't have anything nice to say" doesn't apply....

mulveyr 07-17-12 07:03 AM


Originally Posted by BeastRider (Post 14430546)
So true. If you THINK that your bike is a pile of tubes and machined parts then, perhaps, you shouldn't be riding.

Oh good lord, you're a piece of work. Do we all need secret handshakes to show we're all the same now?


Originally Posted by BeastRider (Post 14430546)
My bike is a friend that allows me a temporary escape, allows me to think things through and work stuff out. It has also helped me to make many new friends that, otherwise, I probably would not have met.

I spend a lot of time taking care of my ride. Adding some things and doing preventative maintenance. I suppose that this "mulvyer" or whoever they are is probably someone that hasn't really had a chance to get the right idea. Perhaps they are simply put off by the fact that they MIGHT have something from a big-box store that isn't working out for them.

Pssst.... I'll give you a hint - take a look at my profile, a moment with Google, and decide which Big Box stores you buy those bikes at...



Originally Posted by BeastRider (Post 14430546)
In any case, since they haven't posted here since this one begins to think that they are nothing mor than an internet troll looking to raise people's ire........

Or on a multi-week bike tour! You know, actually using the bike for enjoyment and pleasure, instead of sitting around behind a keyboard justifying a sad, lonely, obviously meaningless life.

mulveyr 07-17-12 07:10 AM


Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike (Post 14447216)
Why is that? This is the utility cycling list is it not?

Actually, I was just wondering if there's a proper term for people with unnatural attachments to inanimate objects. ;-)

PJCB 07-17-12 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by mulveyr (Post 14491280)
Oh good lord, you're a piece of work. Do we all need secret handshakes to show we're all the same now?



Pssst.... I'll give you a hint - take a look at my profile, a moment with Google, and decide which Big Box stores you buy those bikes at...




Or on a multi-week bike tour! You know, actually using the bike for enjoyment and pleasure, instead of sitting around behind a keyboard justifying a sad, lonely, obviously meaningless life.

Is there a purpose for your hatefulness? Hypocrisy is not a flattering look, you should try humility and kindness. Then again, I'd be ashamed to share such qualities with a person like you.

mulveyr 07-17-12 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by PJCB (Post 14491342)
Is there a purpose for your hatefulness? Hypocrisy is not a flattering look, you should try humility and kindness. Then again, I'd be ashamed to share such qualities with a person like you.

I'd recommend that you read the thread from start to end and find the source of the hatefulness.

Also, you might want to look up "Hypocrisy". It doesn't mean what you seem to think it means.

PJCB 07-17-12 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by mulveyr (Post 14491355)
I'd recommend that you read the thread from start to end and find the source of the hatefulness.

Also, you might want to look up "Hypocrisy". It doesn't mean what you seem to think it means.

You must not understand the purpose of your post, then. Oh well, can't win them all.

BeastRider 07-17-12 04:35 PM


Originally Posted by PJCB (Post 14491361)
You must not understand the purpose of your post, then. Oh well, can't win them all.

This started with a discussion about locks and ended up with personal attacks. This is just one reason I rarely post in the bikeforums. Seems that there are always a few trolls that do nothing more than stir the pot no matter what the subject matter is. Frankly, I just ignore them, consider the source, and mark it off to ignorance. Just shows that there are people that, no matter what is said, they will have something nasty to add.

DX-MAN 07-20-12 10:31 PM

Ohh-KAY.....

I lock up my bike almost everywhere...except work, where it goes in the building with me, and the local fast-food joint with the kids, where we sit close enough to them that no one approaches.

I have a LARGE U-lock (made by MasterLock), and a 9'x 7/16 cable. MY bike can't be replaced, the frame is no longer available, neither is the fork or wheelset.

A few years ago, my sister let her then-17 son borrow her bike; he locked it up...through the frame. When he came out of the store, the wheelset was gone. He hasn't even ASKED since. (I replaced the wheels....)

Thief wants MY stuff, he's gonna have to WORK for it, and HOPE I DON'T CATCH HIM AT IT.

BeastRider 07-21-12 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by DX-MAN (Post 14509541)
Ohh-KAY.....

I lock up my bike almost everywhere...except work, where it goes in the building with me, and the local fast-food joint with the kids, where we sit close enough to them that no one approaches.

I have a LARGE U-lock (made by MasterLock), and a 9'x 7/16 cable. MY bike can't be replaced, the frame is no longer available, neither is the fork or wheelset.

A few years ago, my sister let her then-17 son borrow her bike; he locked it up...through the frame. When he came out of the store, the wheelset was gone. He hasn't even ASKED since. (I replaced the wheels....)

Thief wants MY stuff, he's gonna have to WORK for it, and HOPE I DON'T CATCH HIM AT IT.

GREAT!!!!! making it as hard as possible is all you can do.

KlibanQat 08-30-12 04:04 PM

Where did you procure 9' of cable lock of that thickness? A custom cut at Home Depot? I investigated the local one and it only seemed to have 12mm (less than half an inch, don't remember the precise fraction) available, and just one common cutting tool to cut all thicknesses, and I shrugged at getting no more protection than a coated bargain-basement cable. Home Depot did provide the extra-long padlock though, with the extra courtesy of going "that way" and pointing straight at the locks aisle when I went in walking the bike, before I opened my mouth. :lol: If ever I tire of locking the padlock around part of the frame itself, I can get it engraved as a love lock and leave it somewhere.

squirtdad 08-30-12 04:30 PM

I lock every time. But the lock is use is sort of ok combo cable. The intent of locking is to avoid a casual jump on and take off or throw in the back of a pickup and take off, not to thwart a dedicated thief

I don't leave the bike locked any place for long periods of time (probably the longest is when am in the library looking for books) and 90% of the time I lock where I can see my bike

Velognome 09-02-12 08:03 PM

When I'm alone, a heavy cable lock all the time. If I'm in the suburbs and run into a store, I'll sometimes just run the cable through the rear wheel and frame to deter "ride offs".

On group rides, 5 or more riders and we stop at a dinner, I don't lock it; kinda the "school of fish" mentality I guess.....funny thing is, that bike is worth 5 times what my utility bike is worth and that gets the heavy cable lock! Go figure?

purplemutant 09-08-12 01:18 AM

I ALWAYS lock up my bike. My bike is my primary vehcile, I don't have a car. I am poor, so I can't afford to get my bike stolen. I lock my bike using this method I found on youtube. It seems to be pretty darn theft proof.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPDHP...BB52E4991C3B3E

I don't understand why someone wouldn't lock their bike. Even if you live in a low crime area, there is always the chance someone could steal your bike. Why risk it?

Clarabelle 09-08-12 01:23 AM


Originally Posted by Bahnzo (Post 14385079)
Just curious as to what other people's mindsets are. When you go to a store, do you always lock up your bike? If not, what determines if you do or don't.

Always. Three bikes stolen from my daughters convinced me that an ounce of prevention is...you know the rest.

purplemutant 09-08-12 01:28 AM

Not everyone can easily replace their bike. I am poor and on disability, so getting a new bike comperable to what I have wouldn't be easy. My bike is my primary means of transportation. If I lost my bike I would be back to having to take the bus. I am as attached to my bike as I am because it gives me freedom I wouldn't have otherwise. I can carry stuff with my bike that would be difficult to do on the bus. I can't afford to lose my bike, so I always lock it up tight.

DScience 09-08-12 01:41 AM


Originally Posted by mulveyr (Post 14389373)
40+ years of riding, and never had a bike stolen yet. Will my luck run out? Possibly. I might get hit by a meteorite too, but I worry about that as much as I worry about my bike. Not everyone chooses to live in places where things like that are a concern.

Not everyone wants to live in the boonies. ;)

kookaburra1701 09-09-12 06:01 AM

I always lock my bike, in the small town where I live now, I just use a cable lock through the frame and front wheel. I have so far never seen another bicycle actually locked to something here in town.

I'm moving to a university town where bicycle thefts are more common at the end of this month, so I've bought a U-lock, and a Kryptonite NYC Fuhgettaboutit chain. My bikes/accessories are also specifically insured in my renter's insurance. I'm amused by some of the reactions and advice I've received in other forums, as if my precautions are all pointless and for nought and I'm sure to lose my bicycle and slip into dispair and I need to get a crappy beater to ride instead of the nice bicycle that I enjoy riding. But honestly, I'll be disappointed if it gets stolen, but such is life. I'll do what I can, and whatever happens happens.


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