I-Like-To-Bike

mountebanks: Had to look up the meaning of the new (to me) word. Perfect!

randya

Do you really think the police would have started enforcing tire tread depth restictions on cyclists? My my, you really are paranoid!

You mistake my dislike for VC acolytes, toadies or Foresterites, Foresterology, whatever you want to call them/it, for my dislike of vehicular cycling; I simply consider vehicular cycling to be one tool in a cyclist's toolbox, and not the be-all, end-all to the discussion of how best to accomodate cyclists safely on our auto-centric road system; and not a very good method or tool, when used alone, to promote cycling as an alternative to single-occupancy motor vehicularism.

John Forester

Since you obviously have very little knowledge of the ways in which the legal system operates, you should never try to advise people about it. Yes, indeed, we need to tell you bits of truth, no matter how much that upsets you.

Of course, vehicular cycling is only one tool; it has to operate in a society that is organized for operation according to the rules of the road. It is a method of operation, not a method of accommodation; it is the best method that we know. Nobody has demonstrated that riding while violating the rules of the road is safer or better than obeying the rules of the road. Your words imply that something else is safer. That claim has never been demonstrated. Until it has been so demonstrated, your claim has no merit.

Furthermore, while vehicular cycling is the best method for cyclists to operate, it is not a tool for reducing motoring. As the best method for cyclists to operate, it is likely to increase the amount of bicycle transportation being done, but I do not think that that effect is likely to have a significant effect on the amount of motoring. You are perfectly free to advocate whatever anti-motoring means you choose, but if you advocate means that contradict the rules of the road for drivers of vehicles you would be clearly doing harm to cyclists, and that is something that you should not be doing.

zeytoun

By the way Rando, you can ride on the sidewalk and still be a vehicular cyclist, provided you understand the rules of the road, the reasons behind them, and choose to do so as part of a carefully-considered decision, accepting all the risks

Helmet Head

Indeed, even Mr. Forester writes about riding on the sidewalk using it as a shortcut to his home in one of his books.

Bekologist

VC riders can ride on a sidewalk? "VC" is all in the blowhard-ness of the Foresterites.

Vehicular cyclists CAN RIDE IN A BIKE LANE, vehicularily, can ride on a bike path, can ride on the shoulder, can ride in the door zone, can even ride on a sidewalk.

Aside from the arrogance and discrimination against bike specific infrastructure, the arrogant VC-ists aren't that much different from other riders.

pj7

Even my hillbilly selfe has a decent vocabulary. And I reserve the right to not use it.