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Old 05-27-11, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Bekologist
oh, don't be coy. your assertions are that vehicular cycling is prohibited in all 50 states because of the 3 discriminatory edicts.

you claim your method cannot be engaged in without breaking the law.

and claims picking a safe road position, and sharing the road safely with faster traffic is 'so amorphous' that somehow you cannot ascertain if CVC 21202 allows legal safe road positioning in the primary/secondary road positioning method?

I'm demanding a legal argument about a concept, you mean, road bicycling?

yes, this confusion you possess about traffic statues is readily apparent.
Don't be silly, Bek. Obviously my claim applies to all jurisdictions in which any one of the three discriminatory laws is in force. That's 46 or so, as has been published here recently. If the mandatory side-path law is in force, any cyclist who uses the roadway adjacent to one of these is breaking the law. If the mandatory bike-lane law is in force, any cyclist who is not in the bike lane on a road that has bike lanes is breaking the law unless his action complies with one of the exceptions. If the mandatory far right law is in force, any cyclist who is not as close as practicable to the right-hand edge of the roadway is breaking the law unless his action complies with one of the exceptions.

My description of the amorphous concept applies to your phrasing: "taking the lane and sharing roads while safe." That can mean almost anything, and has no legal meaning for the basis of a legal argument, which is what you demanded.
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Old 05-27-11, 04:28 PM
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oh, about half dozen states have mandatory bikelane laws, and only 3 or 4 mandatory sidepath laws.

most of the rest of the states, 46 states, however, you think vehicular cycling is prohibited by laws regulating bikes operate as far to the right as is practicable, and that cyclists cannot legally vehicular cycle in california.

you try and bluster that in the vast majority of states, it is the mere presence of a 'cyclists operate frap' that somehow operationally prevents cycling in the vehicular manner as described by John Franklin and his primary/secondary cycling method- that is, taking the lane, and sharing the road when safe to do so.

howver, when pressed, you do agree that cycling as far to the right as practicable is legal road operation in california.

Sorry you cannot realize cyclists operate frap to share with faster traffic present is a pure embodiment of bicycle driving and vehicular cycling in the primary/secondary vehicular cycling method, and that this vehicular riding style is legally allowed in california.

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Old 05-27-11, 04:38 PM
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inasmuch as it is concerning this topic,

perhaps the reason for the lack of relevancy at the google ngram viewer is that vc is completely irrelevant. its premise, that cyclists break the laws if they wish to ride in a vehicular manner, is such artifice and suffragism people should be able to readily ascertain why it has been hoisted overboard in the bicycling community.

Safe cycling, however, gets quite a few hits at the google cultural relevancy viewer.
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