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Winter riding

So I'm about 2 months into riding and love,love,love it. However, with winter coming and me being new, I'm not 100% sure how to layer without breaking the bank. I used to ride motorcycles in the winter so logic tells me the same rules will apply, but with clothing not as heavy. Any help is appreciated.
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The secret is layers. A light windblock layer first, preferably one you can shed and stow in a pocket or bag or tie around your waist. (Tying around your waist WILL kill waterproofing.) Then breathable wool or polyester pile or the like. (Stay away from cotton.) Then one or more layers of non-cotton thermal underwear.

Newspaper under the outside layer works very well as a windblock. Seek out newspapers with quality ink or make sure the adjacent layers aren't ones with looks that matter. Front of torso (whole sheet using the first fold) and front of legs (to keep warm blood flowing to your feet).

Early things to buy: Armwarmers and legwarmers are not expensive and very useful. They allow quick changes as you warm up or the day changes. Your favorite cycling shoe a full size lager. A near trick is to put your bare feet into produce bags with no holes, then your usual socks, another bad and a snug fitting stretchy men's dress sock like your grand dad might have worn. Now your socks are completely sealed from rain, puddles and sweat. Dry and as good insulators in 4 hours as when you left the house.

There are lots more tricks. Helmet liners (Goodwill wool headbands?), helmet covers, large mittens. Go riding. Talk to other riders. Be inventive. Goodwill and places that sell used or bargain outdoor gear are great places to go searching.

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Exactly what kind of winter are we talking about? California winter? Or Canada winter?

Layering is good. Personally, fingers and toes are the biggest concern. I use the chemical warming packs for my toes as well as my thumb. Mittens are better than gloves but you don't get the dexterity you get with gloves. Easier shifting Campy than Shimano or SRAM with mittens, but still doable.

Depends on the temperature you're going to be riding in.

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Originally Posted by mcours2006 View Post
Exactly what kind of winter are we talking about? California winter? Or Canada winter?

Layering is good. Personally, fingers and toes are the biggest concern. I use the chemical warming packs for my toes as well as my thumb. Mittens are better than gloves but you don't get the dexterity you get with gloves. Easier shifting Campy than Shimano or SRAM with mittens, but still doable.

Depends on the temperature you're going to be riding in.
Alabama winter. 30 would be the coldest. Although most riding would be done 35 and above.
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Originally Posted by RichardR1015 View Post
So I'm about 2 months into riding and love,love,love it. However, with winter coming and me being new, I'm not 100% sure how to layer without breaking the bank. I used to ride motorcycles in the winter so logic tells me the same rules will apply, but with clothing not as heavy. Any help is appreciated.
I ride both bike and motorbike. The main difference: bicycle keeps you warm, because of the pedalling. Unless it's deep below freezing, often all you need (as your body adapts to the cold) is a wind-stopper layer with minimal layers beneath. Except for feet, hands and eyes - ski goggles, snow boots with wool socks and ski gloves are often needed, even if the rest of the body is fine with a wind jacket and a sweater beneath.

I wrote here about winter cycling clothing, snow riding technique, snow tyre choices:

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RIchard, just as much as where and what temps you are riding in is your body type. There are well insulated furnaces. There are skinny types designed to shed any heat they have (me). And everything in between.

(I love shaking hands with people - to absorb as much heat as I can! I always hear "Man your hands are cold!")

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Fat guys get cold too.


Wyoming just got their first snow, shut down parts of I-80 around Cheyenne...everything towards the middle of the US if going to be an icebox.


Here abouts at the Oregon Idaho border, snow is still street slang for an illegal drug. The cats' water dish iced over last night for the first time and I started leaving the faucets running slightly. The neighbors had to call the plumber today...twice in 32 years and older and wiser.


I hope we don't have 'Tacoma snow' - where it falls conveniently for Macy's and KING 5's Christmas show.
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Originally Posted by RichardR1015 View Post
So I'm about 2 months into riding and love,love,love it. However, with winter coming and me being new, I'm not 100% sure how to layer without breaking the bank. I used to ride motorcycles in the winter so logic tells me the same rules will apply, but with clothing not as heavy. Any help is appreciated.
Look for thermal layers on amazon.

All of my winter gear was purchased at discount retailers using promotion coupon codes for cheap. Today we had a 25f windchill and wore the following layers:

Two pairs of synthetic blend socks under my ventilated Look shoes
Craft thermal full length bibs (SierraTradingPost.com)
Peral Izumi Elite thermal jacket (Marshall's) over a generic synthetic athletic long sleeve shirt (Xmart)
Descente Wombat gloves (Nashbar) over Brooks full-finger running gloves (Marshall's)
Louis Garneau synthetic balaclava and skull cap (both Nashbar)
Wiley-X PT-2 clear lens glasses (military issue, but can be found on ebay for cheap)

Anticipating arctic temps in Dec, Jan, and Feb, I purchased today:

Pair of thermal base layer leggings (amazon)
Louis Garneau Neo Pro booties (Nashbar)
DeFeet wool winter weight socks (Nashbar)

It's difficult to give a definitive answer to such a subjective experience, i.e. what works for me may very well not work for you and vice versa. It will take a bit a experimenting to figure out what your tolerances are; after two full seasons of temps in the negatives I am confident that my wardrobe is stocked adequately for my commute.
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Old 11-19-16, 09:24 AM
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Down to 30 degrees, I'll assume you'll be riding in the middle of the day vs. early morning and evening. The sun will make you feel warmer.

Things to buy? Start with warm gloves (you may want 2-3 pairs of gloves for various temps), something to keep your head warm, and some polypro tights. If you get a cycling windproof and water-proof or -resistant jacket with double-direction main zipper, armpit zippers, and adjustable cuffs, you can adjust from 45-55F (when it's cold enough to put it on) down to 30F. You may be able to reuse a light jacket you already have, and just deal with its shortcomings.

You may or may not want a medium-weight pair of tights for the 30s. If it's sunny and not too windy, I don't need the thin insulation and can stay with thinner and more flexible single layer tights.

You probably have some warm socks (wool?). If your feet get too cold, cut a plastic shopping bag in half lengthwise and wrap it over the socks to block the wind.

A polypro or wool t-shirt (aka base layer, for more $$) under an outer jersey or shirt, in conjunction with the jacket, will keep you warm down to 30F. For a short ride, say 30 minutes to an hour, you can get away with a common cotton t-shirt; just adjust your layers to keep from sweating too much. And change pretty qiuckly when you get to the end of the ride.

Ear warmers are my preferred head warmer. A polypro skull cap is too warm for me above 30-35F, and common watch caps are almost useless at riding speed because the wind blows right through the knit.
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Before you break the bank with a shopping list of specialty clothing, look for what you already have for winter and for winter sports activities. Look for wicking base layers (silk, Marino wool or poly). A mid insulating layer. And a shell to keep the rain and wind out. Your local GoodWill,Value Village and army surplus has good stuff - look for wool. Don't forget your head, hands and feet. My gloves are army surplus trigger mitts.
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you will lose your will from having your hands or toes too cold. Your torso is better heated. Use thin layers, not thick/heavy one to be warm. Get a pair of leggings and some arm warmers. poly-blend under armor type shirt under jersey.

Look into a wind jacket. I think you will agree that a wind and 35 degrees and a calm 35 degrees are quite different.

Use nitrile surgical gloves under your gloves and ziplock baggies on your feet if needed.

balaclava.
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I'd better bring K-rations if I have to do all that. PS you're in Portland, OR, not Minnesota. They got more places to stop than in Ontario.


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The secret is layers. A light windblock layer first, preferably one you can shed and stow in a pocket or bag or tie around your waist. (Tying around your waist WILL kill waterproofing.) Then breathable wool or polyester pile or the like. (Stay away from cotton.) Then one or more layers of non-cotton thermal underwear.

Newspaper under the outside layer works very well as a windblock. Seek out newspapers with quality ink or make sure the adjacent layers aren't ones with looks that matter. Front of torso (whole sheet using the first fold) and front of legs (to keep warm blood flowing to your feet).

Early things to buy: Armwarmers and legwarmers are not expensive and very useful. They allow quick changes as you warm up or the day changes. Your favorite cycling shoe a full size lager. A near trick is to put your bare feet into produce bags with no holes, then your usual socks, another bad and a snug fitting stretchy men's dress sock like your grand dad might have worn. Now your socks are completely sealed from rain, puddles and sweat. Dry and as good insulators in 4 hours as when you left the house.

There are lots more tricks. Helmet liners (Goodwill wool headbands?), helmet covers, large mittens. Go riding. Talk to other riders. Be inventive. Goodwill and places that sell used or bargain outdoor gear are great places to go searching.

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Originally Posted by RichardR1015 View Post
So I'm about 2 months into riding and love,love,love it. However, with winter coming and me being new, I'm not 100% sure how to layer without breaking the bank. I used to ride motorcycles in the winter so logic tells me the same rules will apply, but with clothing not as heavy. Any help is appreciated.
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Originally Posted by RichardR1015 View Post
Alabama winter. 30 would be the coldest. Although most riding would be done 35 and above.
All I can offer is what I wear at those temperatures.

A lightweight pair of glove, thin balaclava (I adjust it over my nose as needed), prescription safety glasses, sweat pants (I don't commute in the winter for recreation very often, just commuting), long sleeve shirt, and windbreaker. Anything else and I get too warm after about 20 minutes.
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California winters (at least this part of California) aren't much colder. We occasionally get down to the high 20s, but more often it's in the low 30s. I admit I tend to run cold, so my selection is probably overkill for most:
Balaclava - Merino Wool
Long-Sleeve Base Layer - Merino Wool (mid-weight)
Short-Sleeve Jersey
Softshell jacket
Bib shorts
Light-weight tights with leg warmers underneath
or Mid-weight tights w/o leg warmers
Woolie Boolie socks
MTB shoes
Soft-shell, Windstopper shoe covers
PI WXB gloves (sometimes with a liner)


If I'm feeling particularly cold, I've been known to break out the PI Amfib Bib Tights, Craft "lobster" gloves, and Lake Winter Boots. Since I usually have trouble keeping my hands (and feet) warm, I'm going to try some Bar Mitts this year - it may be overkill to some, but I'm willing to try whatever I can to keep myself comfortable and continuing to ride throughout the winter.


P.S. If it rains, the softshell jacket gets replaced with a Showers Pass rain jacket and some rain pants.
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This will be my first winter that I'll be riding. I've been riding 6 to 7 days a week this summer and its been my therapy so I'm just looking to get 2 to 3 ride a week during this winter. I don't ride in the rain and def won't be riding in the snow. I'll have to take my cardio back to the stationary bike at my gym....boring! So far, here is what I have bought from amazon for my winter gear.....

1. Soft Shell china jacket and pants - Windproof and Thermally insulated....excellent so far in 40 to 60 degree F temps!!
2. Long Sleeve Nike thin base layer shirt

Now that the colder weather (40 and below) is approaching here in NYC....

1. Under Armour Coldgear thermal top and bottom
2. Endura Luminite Thermal Gloves
3. Thin silk glove liner for colder temps...I'm thinking when 15 degrees F and below. Don't care if hands sweat as long as glove liner absorbs and keeps hand warm beneath Endura gloves.
3. Merell Iceclaw winter boots (SUPERIOR windblock and thermal insulation!!)
4. Synthetic Balaclava....may purchase thermal/fleece balaclava but not sure if it may be too much and cause over heating.
5. Windproof and thermal fleece beanie
6. Toe covers

and if its still too cold for me after all that, perhaps 15F and below......

.....replace UA Coldgear with.....

1. Smartwool NTS Mid 250 top and bottom base layers. Pricey but I'm sure it'll be worth it! Wool is supposed to be superior moisture wicking and holds warmth better than synthetics.

.....if there is anything else anyone can recommend me please do so! It will be much appreciated!

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Oh, forgot to add I use Smartwool PhD Outdoor light mini and crew socks. I LOVE these socks!!
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Alabama winter. 30 would be the coldest. Although most riding would be done 35 and above.
BwaaaHaaa, yikes. Alabama? Just try some long sleeves. OK, MA rider here. Start with some tights, layer with wind pants. Top? try a merino wool base layer, a warmth layer and something windproof. Hat. Like a polypro one under the helmet. Feet? Bigger shoes, 2 layer of wool socks or some winter boots, for flat or clipless pedals.
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Check out Costco, they have light merino wool base layers that are cheap/on sale right now. Picked up some tops for my wife this past weekend for $8 ea. Great way to not break the bank. Also their runners gloves are great when the temps start to slide. I would be fine to about 25 with them, others may need more before that.
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layer smart, let your goal be to wear as little as possible. the trick is no exposed skin & water protection
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