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Old 01-09-17, 06:04 PM
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Best all round winter tire, period

im going to order some 30mm ish gator skins i cant find anything that isnt studded or too bulky its snows sometimes and 23 mm are not going to work as well sometime i need lower pressures and what not to make the tire work in the snow i though about 28s but my crux can take up to 34mm so what would you recommend i choose the gtr skns because they are cheap right now , but they dont have any grip pattern , but i would only need grip patterns during snow but even them i can ride just fine on 25mm is the snow with the pressure lowered , if there are any tires with just the right amount of grip to not ruin the dry ride please suggest away , i also dont want to have to change tires over and over to match the weather , i just need a good winter alrounder
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I would have said the continental top contact if you don't want studded, but if you're stuck to 700x34 or narrower, probably the Schwalbe CX Pro? Not strictly a snow tire, and would be pretty slippery on ice (why I've got Schwalbe studded 700x35's), but I've got a bike with them on and they ride pretty well.

continental bicycle Top CONTACT Winter II Premium
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Originally Posted by Viich View Post
I would have said the continental top contact if you don't want studded, but if you're stuck to 700x34 or narrower, probably the Schwalbe CX Pro? Not strictly a snow tire, and would be pretty slippery on ice (why I've got Schwalbe studded 700x35's), but I've got a bike with them on and they ride pretty well.

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All of this ^^^

I ride all weather, year-round in Minneapolis. I'm a huge fan of Top Contact Winter tires. I've used them for 5 winters on a couple different bikes (700x35 and 26x1.9). The only thing they aren't great at is glare ice (then you need studs). However, I've been on some extremely slippery conditions with Top Contacts and been rock solid... like that time I stopped for a light and my foot slid out on me, but my tires never felt like they were losing grip.
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cool im going for all round i just need a thicker tire 23s work in the snow just not well because of the tire pressure
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Anyone tried a similar tyre from Schwalbe?

https://www.bike24.com/1.php?content...=454;orderby=2

Almost half the price of the Continental:
https://www.bike24.com/1.php?content...=454;orderby=2
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Sorry You want to use so narrow a tire ,

park the road bike until spring thaw.

Bike Buy; bump up to something taking a 40-622? like a Cross-hybrid?



My Suomi Nokian Tires on my old MTB work great , and have since I got them in 1990.
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Boston rider here. For me, winter all rounder = studded. YRMV.
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Sorry You want to use so narrow a tire ,

park the road bike until spring thaw.

Bike Buy; bump up to something taking a 40-622? like a Cross-hybrid?



My Suomi Nokian Tires on my old MTB work great , and have since I got them in 1990.
Today it was tricky. 10 cm of snow, on top of a layer of ice. My winter tyre is Schwalbe Marathon Winter 559-47 (47 mm wide). Needed to lower the pressure to just over 1.5 bars. It was still a bit tricky - slow riding, without sudden changes of direction.

I was thinking: would a narrower tyres, at a slightly higher pressure, be more likely to cut their way through the 10 cm of snow and bite into the ice with the studs? I know Schwalbe makes Marathon Winter in 622-35.

What's other people's experience?
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When cars. especially 4x4/AWD vehicles aren't doing very well, you should seriously figure something else out for a while.


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I was out a couple of days ago and thought the narrow tires (23/25) cut through the slush down to pavement reasonably well. But, my non-grippy tires were wicked on ice.

I kind of like the idea of those continentals, but fortunately I can now mostly avoid ice and snow... mostly. I suppose I should have tried the cross bike on the snow.

A few years ago I had some narrow knobby tires which I used i the winter. But, it is hard to find small ones.

I see this Schwalbe CX Pro goes down to about a 30mm size.
https://www.amazon.com/Schwalbe-700x.../dp/B01F1H50MY
https://www.mec.ca/en/product/5028-2...x-30-Wire-Tire

I have used the Schwalbe Marathon Plus.. moderate tread, and somewhat grippy, but I didn't try it in snow.
Sizes down to 70x25.

https://www.biketiresdirect.com/prod...thon-plus-700c
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There is a Rim out of Fairbanks AK, I use called 'snow cat' it is 45mm wide ,

the 1.9 wide tire, mounted on It takes on a D section. a lower wider profile .

which increases the contact patch area adding to the stability..
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Originally Posted by Slaninar View Post
Today it was tricky. 10 cm of snow, on top of a layer of ice. My winter tyre is Schwalbe Marathon Winter 559-47 (47 mm wide). Needed to lower the pressure to just over 1.5 bars. It was still a bit tricky - slow riding, without sudden changes of direction.

I was thinking: would a narrower tyres, at a slightly higher pressure, be more likely to cut their way through the 10 cm of snow and bite into the ice with the studs? I know Schwalbe makes Marathon Winter in 622-35.

What's other people's experience?
I've done a fair number of tires widths/styles in snow, here's a brief list:

700x28 T-Serv (not winter tires) - this has happened when the snow was unexpected and I biked to the office. It honestly is fine, and does cut through to the pavement. But if there's ice under that snow, you will have no clue and will hit the deck. I currently have a 700x35 studded tire on the front and a Top Contact Winter on the rear; however, for fresh snow, this isn't my go-to bike.

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26x1.9 Top Contact Winter - this was my winter commuter set up for a couple years, and it's great for most conditions. With 4+ inches of snow, the kinda float - kinda cut in gets challenging. Ridable, but not easy.

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26x4 Nates - this is my current go-to snow bike. 4 inches of snow is fun!

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I've done a fair number of tires widths/styles in snow, here's a brief list:

700x28 T-Serv (not winter tires) - this has happened when the snow was unexpected and I biked to the office. It honestly is fine, and does cut through to the pavement. But if there's ice under that snow, you will have no clue and will hit the deck. I currently have a 700x35 studded tire on the front and a Top Contact Winter on the rear; however, for fresh snow, this isn't my go-to bike.

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26x1.9 Top Contact Winter - this was my winter commuter set up for a couple years, and it's great for most conditions. With 4+ inches of snow, the kinda float - kinda cut in gets challenging. Ridable, but not easy.

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26x4 Nates - this is my current go-to snow bike. 4 inches of snow is fun!

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I have a MTB (26 " rigid) and a Hybrid. So my tyre choices are up to 2" wide 26", and up tu 42 mm wide 28" tyres. What would be your choice for:
1) 20 cm deep snow
2) 10 cm deep snow
3) one all round tyre if only one size and type had to be chosen. The city streets are ploughed regularly, seldom over 10 cm, seldom any ice (but I prefer to have studs, for cold mornings and late night rides).
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Nokian Mount & Grounds (26" x 1.9"). I have those and the W240's (700x50) - both are great for winter snow & ice. Skinny tire bikes get put away for winter and I ride mtn bikes. Riding in 10cm of snow is slow, 20cm is a challenge.
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+ 1 on the winter continental top contact for an all rounder winter tire. The schwalbe mentioned in thread no. 5 could be a good alternative though.
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I have a MTB (26 " rigid) and a Hybrid. So my tyre choices are up to 2" wide 26", and up tu 42 mm wide 28" tyres. What would be your choice for:
1) 20 cm deep snow
2) 10 cm deep snow
3) one all round tyre if only one size and type had to be chosen. The city streets are ploughed regularly, seldom over 10 cm, seldom any ice (but I prefer to have studs, for cold mornings and late night rides).
The 26er MTB above was my daily winter commuter for 4-5 winters*. I found more than 4" (10 cm) of fresh snow was too much work and too much walking. After trying a number of tires and combinations, I settled on Nokian Mount and Ground (studded) front and Continental Top Contact Winter rear. I'm too busy (read lazy) to change tires based on the forecast, so I wanted the mount-it-and-forget-it winter tire combo. I'm so confident in this combo, it's the tires I mount on my daughter's winter commuter (she's car-free).

I found - and other local winter commuters recommended - a studded front tire offers the control for steering and braking when you find that patch of refreeze ice; and the Top Contact rear give a lower rolling resistance (less effort) with great grip. The only reason for a studded rear is for aggressive accelerations or cornering - while commuting, I rarely do either of these things.

Here's a plug for the Top Contact Winter tires: I use Top Contact front and rear for one or two winters. I was riding home with a wet snow that was freezing the roads. I'd been on a long stretch without stopping, passing many cars, without thinking about it. My bike didn't have any issues with traction. I finally came to a red light and put a foot down, and my boot slid out on me! The Top Contact Winter tires had so much grip, I never realized how bad the roads were. Then I started noticing the number of cars locking up wheels and sliding. At this point, I was 3 miles from home and could get off the roads to ride trails the rest of the way home.

* For reference, I live just outside Minneapolis, so you know we get snow, cold, ice, etc. When I commuted to an office, I'd ride 10-12 miles (one way), I'd ride about 80% of the time - schedules would force me to use a car about once a week. My route was a mix of plowed roads with wide shoulders and rail-trails/bike trails. The trails would get plowed, but it'd take a day or two so I'd often ride unplowed trails.
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Thanks for good info and sharing experience!

As for rear studded - my guess is it makes sense if you have up and downhills on your commute. Just to be safer. On flat ground, my experience too is that it's far from necessary.

A tyre like this?
https://www.bike24.com/1.php?content...5D=1;orderby=2

Now I'm using Continental Race King 2" rear, with Schwalbe Marathon Winter front.

How is Mount and Ground compare to Marathon Winter? Much more aggressive tread?

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Thanks for good info and sharing experience!
I'm happy to help!

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As for rear studded - my guess is it makes sense if you have up and downhills on your commute. Just to be safer. On flat ground, my experience too is that it's far from necessary.

A tyre like this?
https://www.bike24.com/1.php?content...5D=1;orderby=2
My old commuting route was hilly (650 ft of climbing), with some 10% kicks along the way. Studs can help, but with correct gearing and keeping your butt on the saddle, I never spun out. The tire you link is exactly the one I love, great all-round winter tire!

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How is Mount and Ground compare to Marathon Winter? Much more aggressive tread?
I was at the LBS last month and looked at the Marathon Winter - If I were buying a tire for commuting today, I'd take the Marathon over the Mount & Ground.
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fat bikes rule this time of year, no doubt about it. but been having good luck on select trails w these 700x40mm tires. tweeking pressure for best results

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@rumrunn6 : I got the exact same ones.

One can go as low as 30 psi, but I usually give it a little more up to 40 psi when in use.
Haven’t got to much experience yet though. Let’s hope for the best :-)
But so far so good.
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Are there any affordable winter tires with studs for 26 wheels?
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Are there any affordable winter tires with studs for 26 wheels?
Might be better to begin a new thread for that question.

You might need to go to eBay for them. Here's a set that caught my eye just now...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Nokian-Suom...8AAOSww-BaWVtH

I've a set of these. They are fantastic on black ice, and dead-slow on pavement.
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winter tires with studs for 26 wheels?
26 x 1.75 $76.49 ea. in stock, ships free from Bike Tires Direct
https://www.biketiresdirect.com/prod...tudded-26-tire

if you want something wide & beefier Ice Spiker comes in 26 x 2.1 for $88.80 ea.
https://www.biketiresdirect.com/prod...e-26-inch-tire
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i also dont want to have to change tires over and over to match the weather , i just need a good winter alrounder
What does Winter look like for you?

I've personally not been able to find a single winter tire...because winter takes many forms where I live.

Slightly wider road tires (700x28) work well for me in light winter - warmer temperatures with the slightest bit of snow or ice. I hear good things about Conti Grand Prix 4 Season; I don't use them (I went with a cheaper option because light winter is very short here.) Normal gravel or cross tires work well for this also.

For icy roads and flat snowpack, I use 700x35 tires with light studding (two rows down the center).

For heavy snowpack, ruts, and piles of frozen slop, I go with aggressive tires - currently Nokian Suomi Extreme on a beater MTB. The rolling resistance is horrible but I can get where I need to go on unsalted and barely plowed roads. This is common in my area, as my town only salts arterial roads and scrapes the side streets. Given the timing of road maintenance, this often means deep icy ruts on side streets.

Fat tires do well in deep snow.

None of these options are cheap, but better deals can be had on ebay (as others have already mentioned) and from some of the UK vendors. I picked up lightly used Suomis for $100, for the pair.
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You could compare different platform and choose the best one which suitable for yourself ,e-bay,amazon are good place for your purchase .
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