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Jim's Famous Trick for Rear-view Mirror Goggles

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Jim's Famous Trick for Rear-view Mirror Goggles

Now that spring is upon us, I am considering creating a "rear-view mirror" using (Jim's idea) a dental mirror and safety glasses purchased from Lowes.

Are there any special instructions for creating such a thing? Do you detach the mirror and secure it to the goggles using duct tape? What are some of the risks of wearing such a contraption? Like getting glass in the eye?
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Originally Posted by parkbrav View Post
Now that spring is upon us, I am considering creating a "rear-view mirror" using (Jim's idea) a dental mirror and safety glasses purchased from Lowes.

Are there any special instructions for creating such a thing? Do you detach the mirror and secure it to the goggles using duct tape? What are some of the risks of wearing such a contraption? Like getting glass in the eye?
Why not buy a ready-made glasses or helmet mount mirror? Most are under $20. I've tried a few, and my favorite is the Take-A-Look short-arm version ~$14.

Glassses Mount Rear View Mirrors

On the other hand, I have enjoyed "bodging" my own "kludges" over the years.

But I really don;t think you're going to do better than the Take-A-Look Mirror, and the price is right.

See if any of your local bike shops carry them, and if not then you can find it online.
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since this is the winter subforum, maybe parkbrav wants to rig something for "ski" goggles?

related: I would like to rig something for my helmet that has a face shield. no regular helmet or glasses mirror works cuz there's no glasses & the area of the helmet that it might mount to is covered by the shield, which also has to flip/rotate up. so much easier to use my summer helmet & glasses.
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Originally Posted by rumrunn6 View Post
since this is the winter subforum, maybe parkbrav wants to rig something for "ski" goggles?

related: I would like to rig something for my helmet that has a face shield. no regular helmet or glasses mirror works cuz there's no glasses & the area of the helmet that it might mount to is covered by the shield, which also has to flip/rotate up. so much easier to use my summer helmet & glasses.
Okay...now I see the reference to goggles.

I would still use the Take-A-Look Mirror and try to mount that. The Take-A-Look Mirror is brass and holds it position very well. Its three "fingers" should be able to be affixed with strong duct tape, of even clamping onto the strap of the goggles. If not, something could be figured out, but starting with a proven product would help.

Some people can clamp it to their helmet. The brass fingers and arm are bendable enough to do almost anything.

If you wear a helmet, perhaps, just a dedicated helmet mount mirror would work best.

(Please, no helmet debates.)
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Okay...now I see the reference to goggles
I think I'm wrong cuz then he writes: "safety glasses". yo, @parkbrav wutz up with that?
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I think I'm wrong cuz then he writes: "safety glasses". yo, @parkbrav wutz up with that?
I had in mind something like this: https://www.lowes.com/pd/3M-Multi-Pu...ses/1000040195

I got my pair of safety glasses for about $9, maybe tomorrow I might even get them out and try them in these mild conditions

Did you want me to elaborate? I believe the safety glasses in spring act like ski goggles in winter, only the safety glasses are lighter weight and cheaper and thus can be worn in higher temperatures. @jim_from_Boston, can you help me out a little bit?

And then as some of the posters have replied, the "Dental mirror" can be affixed to the safety glasses or the helmet (not starting a helmet discussion ) if one chooses, thus having the ability to ward off the dreaded "rear-ending" by cars
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Originally Posted by rumrunn6 View Post
I think I'm wrong cuz then he writes: "safety glasses". yo, @parkbrav wutz up with that?
Some people call safety goggles (without ear pieces) safety glasses.

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Jim's Famous Trick for Rear-view Mirror Goggles
Originally Posted by parkbrav View Post
I had in mind something like this: https://www.lowes.com/pd/3M-Multi-Pu...ses/1000040195

I got my pair of safety glasses for about $9, maybe tomorrow I might even get them out and try them in these mild conditions

Did you want me to elaborate? I believe the safety glasses in spring act like ski goggles in winter, only the safety glasses are lighter weight and cheaper and thus can be worn in higher temperatures. @jim_from_Boston, can you help me out a little bit?

And then as some of the posters have replied, the "Dental mirror" can be affixed to the safety glasses or the helmet (not starting a helmet discussion ) if one chooses, thus having the ability to ward off the dreaded "rear-ending" by cars
Hi @parkbrav et al,


Thanks for the nod and I did think that I was the Jim to whom the title referred. I have frequently posted about my goggles and mirror set-up to diminish eyeglass fogging in the Winter.

I have been meaning to post a reply
– and when I want to post a reply, the yearning, like the Force, is strong within me but an important priority is work so I can get out and ride.

Hopefully, later today (currently 12:30 AM), I’ll elaborate.

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Originally Posted by Jim from Boston View Post
”Jim's Famous Trick for Rear-view Mirror Goggles”

Hi @parkbrav et al,

Thanks for the nod and I did think that I was the Jim to whom the title referred. I have frequently posted about my goggles and mirror set up to diminish eyeglass fogging in the Winter.

I have been meaning to post a reply – and when I want to post a reply, the yearning, like the Force, is strong within me – but an important priority is work so I can get out and ride.

Hopefully, later today (currently 12:30 AM), I’ll elaborate.
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Why not buy a ready-made glasses or helmet mount mirror? Most are under $20. I've tried a few, and my favorite is the Take-A-Look short-arm version ~$14.

Glassses Mount Rear View Mirrors
…what the heck…one less thing to do today..
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I perennially post about my winter eyewear for my 14 mile year-round commute, from about 35° down to as low as 0°. I must wear my prescription eyeglasses, and fogging is one of the worst dangers of winter riding. I am entirely satisfied with my system.
Originally Posted by Jim from Boston View Post
for eye protection is a pair of simple, wide, plastic industrial goggles that I suspend from my cycling cap using Velcro around the nosepiece. The goggles sit very comfortably on my face securely in place even though my ears are covered. The earpieces then provide a rigid mount for my eyeglass-mounted Take-a-Look mirror.

The goggles allow sufficient room for my prescription eyeglasses, and are widely ventilated to carry away the exhaled moisture preventing fogging.







Originally Posted by velopig View Post
Two mirrors and a fluorescent jacket. You win!
[Some manipulation of the face covering is necessary. For example I lower the mask when at rest or riding uphill. After a few minutes cycling, usually I don't need a full face cover.]

These goggles have made winter cycling entirely possible because all other attempts to avoid dangerous fogging have been nowhere as successful

I have also often suggested that any recommendations for winter riding include description of the conditions in which they are employed, i.e. lowest temperature and distance.

Addendum:
This morning (12/14/13) I did my 14 mile commute at 11° F with no fogging problems. After about one mile I was comfortable with lowering my face mask below my lower lip. When going fast on windswept downhill runs of about a few hundred yards, I raised my face mask to below my nose.

The warm, moist exhaled air kept my exposed nose and cheeks warm, and the onrushing air dissipated the moisture before it could fog up the goggles. With a slightly forced exhalation, I could even warm my eyebrows, with no fogging.

I realize now that my goggles and face mask are actually an integrated system of heating and ventilation that keeps my face warm and my vision unencumbered by fogging.

The windscreen of the goggles is so effective in keeping my eyes warm that my eyelids actually perspired because my central core body was so warm, and my eyes never got cold, even on those fast windswept downhill runs.
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I once suffered a corneal abrasion (link), and for a while I wore the goggles during the nice weather until
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I had my crash at 94 miles. I was immediately assisted by some bystanders who claimed I was KO’ed for a bit, and the ambulance and police soon arrived. The upshot was spending from about 4:00 to 8:30 PM in the Emergency Room, with abrasions on my arms, knees, and a couple ugly ones on my face; and a gash about 1 inch long requiring 18 stitches to close

I think my brand new eyeglasses made the gash. Ironically, since I had a corneal abrasion a few weeks ago I have been wearing goggles over my eyeglasses and I have to wonder if the goggles pushed the eyeglasses into my face. The frames were pretty damaged and unwearable though I had a spare pair in the car.

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It was the mention of a "Dental Mirror" that threw me. I think I remember seeing the photos from Jim from Boston previously.

Anyway, as I have mentioned before, Jim from Boston is one of the main folks here whose posts really helped me ride smarter, safer and more comfortably in winter conditions.
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Originally Posted by BobbyG View Post
It was the mention of a "Dental Mirror" that threw me. I think I remember seeing the photos from Jim from Boston previously.

Anyway, as I have mentioned before, Jim from Boston is one of the main folks here whose posts really helped me ride smarter, safer and more comfortably in winter conditions.
Hi @BobbyG,

Thanks for that nice comment, and I always read, and frequently LIKE your posts whenever I encounter them.

In my introduction to Bike Forums in 2008, I wrote:
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”Hello to this Forum”

I stumbled upon this Forum from another totally unrelated Blog and I was quite impressed at the volume of activity and range of interests….I have a really great commute that belies, IMO, the image of Boston as a city unfriendly to bicycling…

I have been perusing this site for a few weeks and I have had several comments to make so I hope to make useful contributions to future discussion threads, as well as glean from the comments of others
Originally Posted by Jim from Boston View Post
…I have been an avid cyclist, as a lifestyle since about 1972…I happened serendipitously on Bike Forums in 2008, and it was frankly incredible to find a community that shared so many concerns I had kept to myself as a lone cyclist.

This enthusiasm has definitely increased my enjoyment of cycling. As far as improving it, what I have gotten directly from BF:

  • the motivation and tips to ride in rain, and wintry roads, i.e. studded tires
  • the Fifty-Plus Annual rides that motivate me to train in the nice weather
  • the safety tip to watch the front wheels of a car rather than the body or hood to anticipate what the driver is going to do
  • the opportunity to post and literally "journal" my thoughts and activities about cycling and lifestyle (even if nobody else reads them), but which I wouldn't write down otherwise.

So thanks for the opportunity,
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Originally Posted by parkbrav View Post
I had in mind something like this: https://www.lowes.com/pd/3M-Multi-Pu...ses/1000040195 I got my pair of safety glasses for about $9, maybe tomorrow I might even get them out and try them in these mild conditions
oh! see post #17 here

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Originally Posted by BobbyG View Post
... Anyway, as I have mentioned before, Jim from Boston is one of the main folks here whose posts really helped me ride smarter, safer and more comfortably in winter conditions.
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Hi @BobbyG,

Thanks for that nice comment...In my introduction to Bike Forums in 2008, I wrote:
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...I have been perusing this site for a few weeks and I have had several comments to make so I hope to make useful contributions to future discussion threads, as well as glean from the comments of others.
FWIW, I just recalled that I had posted in 2018 to a now-closed thread:
For me the heady days on the Forums were from about 2008 to 2016, in particular participating in the Fifty-Plus Annual Rides, which have since disappeared.

I think I have absorbed all the good advice I can for a complete and agreeable cycling lifestyle, and recently I have clicked on many fewer threads than before. In the past I have offered IMO several useful suggestions about cycling, particularly for winter and urban cycling, to multiple repetitive threads. They are usually lost in the morass of often scores of replies, both in agreement and dispute with mine.

I’m not especially motivated to read or write about rides in areas I will never visit, or bikes I would not buy.
Other cyclists’ biking stories are often meaningful to me, but usually not consequential enough for a reply.

Frankly, now my main enjoyment is reading the personal clashes on the various threads, such as these current ones: "I work with a moron", or ”How often do you check your mirror?.
Nonetheless, I still read and post to favorites:
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…I prefer more the experiential discussions on BF rather than the technical/materiel (hardware) Forums, so I daily visit General Discussion, Advocacy & Safety, Commuting, Fifty-Plus, Living Car Free, Road Cycling, Touring, and seasonally, Winter Cycling.

As to my participation on the Forum...I have a style of posting that has been noted by others.

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I got a Take-A-Look mirror but I have no idea how to work the clamp or attach it to my pair of safety glasses. Can someone please help me out?
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There’s a parallel thread on mirrors some where else where I posted pics of mine - on my phone now so can’t point you to it try searching mirrors bikeforums.net on google
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I got a Take-A-Look mirror but I have no idea how to work the clamp or attach it to my pair of safety glasses. Can someone please help me out?
there are 3 prongs. 2 on one side of the arm & the 3rd center arm on the other side. friction alone isn't enough so I add electrical tape & at least 1 tiny zip tie
see post #17
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there are 3 prongs. 2 on one side of the arm & the 3rd center arm on the other side. friction alone isn't enough so I add electrical tape & at least 1 tiny zip tie
see post #17
Mirrors
yeah, thanks dude. I went to the Take-A-Look website https://takealookactive.com/instructions/ and got it to work. Agree, it will need some duct or electrical tape as my safety glasses don't support the mirror on its own.
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Originally Posted by parkbrav View Post
I got a Take-A-Look mirror but I have no idea how to work the clamp or attach it to my pair of safety glasses. Can someone please help me out?
Originally Posted by rumrunn6 View Post
there are 3 prongs. 2 on one side of the arm & the 3rd center arm on the other side. friction alone isn't enough so I add electrical tape & at least 1 tiny zip tie
see post #17

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yeah, thanks dude. I went to the Take-A-Look website https://takealookactive.com/instructions/ and got it to work. Agree, it will need some duct or electrical tape as my safety glasses don't support the mirror on its own.
Here’s how I do it.
I have to bend the wire holding the prongs open a bit more than for regular eyeglasses. I just secure it with the prongs, and readjust for my prescription eyeglasses. My setpoint for wearing the goggles is 35° or lower.









Note that I have lost a couple of black plastic sleeves on the prongs of one of my Take-a-Look mirrors. That’s about the only drawback of the brand. I have previously posted my remedy:
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The Take-a-Look eyeglass metallic rearview mirror has three prongs covered with plastic tubing to secure it to the eyeglass earpiece. Those plastic sleeves slip off the prongs pretty easily and get lost; heat-shrink tubing replacement is much more secure.
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Jim from boston, The stuff is called heat shrink. You can buy it lots of places ( Home Depot, Lowes, Radio shack, auto parts stores, etc) It comes in varuious diameters, so it is useful in a lot of places.




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A welding supply or landscapers supply is usually a great place to go for safety glasses. I like a tint called "indoor/outdoor" that works for me on cloudy or sunny days. Radnor and Kleenguard are some major brands. These are awesome cycling glasses, they stay put with a helmet on my pretty average head/face. Add an old mirror on a wire with 2 metal glasses clips from Nashbar bought in the 80's and I'm set.

RADNOR® Premier Series Safety Glasses With Black Frame And Clear Polycarbonate Indoor/Outdoor Lens

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Jim I used your assembly strategy, and it worked! Thanks to everyone for bearing with me
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Jim I used your assembly strategy, and it worked! Thanks to everyone for bearing with me
Thanks for your reply, and thanks for the title of this thread, as a tag for my perennial post in reply to the Winter eyeglass / fogging problem.
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I perennially post about my winter eyewear for my 14 mile year-round commute, from about 35° down to as low as 0°. I must wear my prescription eyeglasses, and fogging is one of the worst dangers of winter riding. I am entirely satisfied with my system...


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It would have been really trick if somebody had done a snow dance.
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It would have been really trick if somebody had done a snow dance.
um er I only dance when I’m super happy, which I think was like 2004?
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It would have been really trick if somebody had done a snow dance.
Originally Posted by Wikipedia
A snow dance is a ritual that is performed with the hopes of bringing snow in the winter months. This ritual is often performed with the goal of avoiding school or work the next day.

Specific Snow Dance rituals vary from person to person, but commonly include sleeping with silverware under one's pillow, flushing ice cubes in a toilet, or wearing your pajamas inside out and backwards.
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um er I only dance when I’m super happy, which I think was like 2004?
My wife and I are ballroom dancers, but I don’t know those steps. I do dance in traffic though.
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The weird thing is that traffic in NYC is aggressive, but I find it easier to survive than other places.

I'm not sure I'm ready to say NYC drivers are better than in other places, because it may simply be that I understand the dance and know how to do it .
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As a social ballroom dancer with years of lessons, as well as urban commuter, may I say, "Well said."

There was thread once about rural vs urban cycling, and a concensus was that urban cycling was safer, because of the congestion and slower speeds. Even with heavy traffic, I know the patterns of traffic, the "dance steps," and can anticipate the car's movements.

Earlier on this thread, I wrote: An important aphorism I learned on BF is, "To know where a car is going, watch the front wheels, not the body or hood," though we don't watch our feet when we dance.
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