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Editz 10-22-08 10:45 AM

Under Helmet caps
Can anyone give testimonials on these?

I've seen a few here swear by the Windstopper, but I'm leaning towards getting either a Elite or Touring jacket, and the SP cap integrates with them. But if one's significantly better than the other I'd like to hear about it.

vger285 10-22-08 11:23 AM

I just got the showerpass jacket and pants a few weeks ago, and the hood yesturday,ive only worn the jacket so far, but im gonna be satisfied with the whole outfit.its great and fit real good,e-vent breathes better then gortex and windstopper,So its hard to make a choice,but im happy with what i got, joe

vrkelley 10-22-08 10:12 PM

My SP hood has lasted through 2 jackets. But I don't wear it unless it's raining.

GTALuigi 10-22-08 10:32 PM

those are not necessary if you have a Giro IONOS, it comes with it.

i still haven't had the chance to use mine yet, since i'm always over heating from the neck up.

CastIron 10-23-08 06:43 AM

As a year round cyclist and baldy I'm quite the aficionado of skull caps. I have the Craft model. It's ok. The fit is a bit loose and it isn't contoured, so it doesn't fit as well as I'd like. Still, it's a great idea, well made using top notch materials.

My current favorite is one by Borah for $15. So far, it's never cold, never hot, never felt damp, even in 40* rain yesterday.

MondoDave 10-23-08 07:12 AM

I have used the craft windstopper cap for 2 years and am very happy with it.

roadiejorge 10-25-08 12:50 PM

I have a Castelli windstopper skull cap that worked great last winter so I'll be using that again this year.

modernjess 10-29-08 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by MondoDave (Post 7717357)
I have used the craft windstopper cap for 2 years and am very happy with it.

+1 I like it plenty. But I'm not doubting there might be even better ones out there.

The windstopper on mine is on the panel on the front only. It breathes well, keeps me warm, fits under the helmet. The only thing I wish it had was windstopper over the ears for that little extra but it's not a deal breaker. Also It's not my favorite to wear off the bike, I like my smartwool skull cap much better. Very soft and comfy. But it's not good on the bike.

eciclo 11-05-08 03:12 PM

I have used the Santini Skull cap

Cygnus67 11-05-08 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by CastIron (Post 7717234)
...I have the Craft model. It's ok. The fit is a bit loose and it isn't contoured, so it doesn't fit as well as I'd like. Still, it's a great idea, well made using top notch materials...

I too have the Craft model. CastIron hit it on the (pardon the pun) head. It's nicely made but suprisingly stretchy. I much prefer my Under Armour cap over the Craft.

srmatte 11-06-08 10:46 AM

Turtle makes a nice one to fit under a ski helmet, covers the ears well. Works great and dries fast. Picked one up at ski market for about $12.

Bekologist 11-06-08 11:23 AM

gore windstopper N2S beanies work excellently for me..... i prefer all-over windstopper and not just the front of the head like the craft,

Basil Moss 11-06-08 01:52 PM

The sealskinz skullcap is great- really warm and windproof, and keeps your ears nice and toasty. It's quite stretchy, and has quite a snug fit around the head.

ghostofcrujones 11-17-08 03:23 PM

I recently purchased this Sugoi skull cap. And so far i love it. It's 32 degrees in Chicago and between this and my long underwear bottoms, i am still happy as a clam riding.

JHG57 11-17-08 04:16 PM

I have had good luck with this one (Nashbar Brand) .... and the price is right, $9.99


jwbnyc 11-17-08 05:00 PM

The nice thing about this one is that it has panels that improve hearing through the cap.

Windstopper blocks a lot of sound. Not so great for hearing what's going on behind you.

Editz 11-17-08 05:07 PM

I found a Salomon fleece beanie for $5 at a closeout shop. Not particularly high-tech, but I couldn't beat the price.

Lonewolf48 11-17-08 08:11 PM

Ibex Meru hat- $25, merino wool. warm, wicks sweat, great below 35 degrees, too warm above it, machine washable. i tried a LOT of under helmet hats and this works best for me.

CastIron 11-18-08 09:23 AM

Allow me to reiterate my enthusiasm for my latest skull cap purchase in a fleet of at least a dozen in every material mankind has seemingly invented:

Mt Borah:

Damn this thing flat works. $15. Should've bought two.

nayr497 10-04-09 01:20 PM

That Mt. Borah one looks pretty nice.

I'm in the market for a new winter skull cap that will fit under a helmet. My current one is for warmer days. Looking to use it between 25-40*F.

Is this the Craft some of you don't think it contoured enough?

Is this the Castelli some of you use? Any reviews on this one?

Anyone tried this one?

CastIron 10-05-09 03:13 PM

The Craft is the one I commented on. Still wearing the Borah (today even).

Eclectus 10-11-09 10:02 AM

Windstopper works really well. It's available in many brands. I have a Mountain Hardware beanie, Outdoor Research clava; MH, Marmot and Gore Bike Wear jackets; a Castelli jersey; GBW leg warmers.

Robert Gore and colleagues invented "porous Teflon", "Expanded Polypetrafluouroethylene (EPTF)". Windstopper is a version of this. After the patent expired, a lot of companies jumped on it, giving it their own tweaks. eVent is the most famous. If a "laminate/membrane" is in the product description, it's almost always Gore's EPTF matrix, minus attribution, because now it can be made cheaply without paying royalties, and who wants to spend money on developing a new chemical from scratch?

Gore's membrane is nice. It's not perfect. If you have open-weave material only, like wool or fleece, it has to be thicker (including using multiple layers) to provide equivalent warmth, but the benefit is it evaporates sweat faster, if staying drier is a top priority. If you use a totally wind-and-water-impervious material, like ordinary polyurethane on nylon/spandex, it's cheap and blocks wind 100%, but you get wet from sweat faster.

You have to factor your intentions. If, for example, you ride intensely (HR >140), ride shortly (under 90 minutes), you ride in warmer winter conditions (40s-60s), woven materials are best. Don enough layers, and they're excellent for slower, longer, colder rides.

For rainy riding, Gore's EPTF membrane has proven to be so great that the vast majority of apparel mfrs use it. Now venting design becomes important. What helps to improve bulk air flow, and sweat exit? Pit zips. (Dual direction zips that can be opened starting either at the chest or under the arm are best, but most jackets have only one-way starting from the arms.) Pockets on the side with mesh lining that can be opened to permit airflow. Velcro cuffs that can be opened to act as airflow scoops in warmer conditions. A back vent to expedite sweat vapor exiting. Dual-action front zippers that can be opened from the bottom not just the top.

CCrew 10-13-09 09:44 AM

Smartwool beanie for my old bald head. Advantage of wool is it doesn't stink.

Cosmoline 10-13-09 10:59 AM

The ski helmets come with their own liner and vent system.

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