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Winter Shoes
Well it snowed here in Gillette WY the other day and that told me it is time to order some new winter mountain bike shoes. Look for a recommendation and a good place to pick them up.
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I use Lake mtn bike shoes ... in one size larger than the Lake mtn bike shoes I wear for summer.
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I use lake winter boots as well. I picked them up before my coldest ride last year (-15F, with bootie covers on top), and was very happy with them.
Some of the Lake winter boots have a problem with the stitching on the back coming loose. I don't know if those are still floating around or not. Mine have the problem, and I have to get them sewn. Lake said they would pay for it, but have to follow up with them.
Good luck!
Some of the Lake winter boots have a problem with the stitching on the back coming loose. I don't know if those are still floating around or not. Mine have the problem, and I have to get them sewn. Lake said they would pay for it, but have to follow up with them.
Good luck!
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I use lake winter boots as well. I picked them up before my coldest ride last year (-15F, with bootie covers on top), and was very happy with them.
Some of the Lake winter boots have a problem with the stitching on the back coming loose. I don't know if those are still floating around or not. Mine have the problem, and I have to get them sewn. Lake said they would pay for it, but have to follow up with them.
Good luck!
Some of the Lake winter boots have a problem with the stitching on the back coming loose. I don't know if those are still floating around or not. Mine have the problem, and I have to get them sewn. Lake said they would pay for it, but have to follow up with them.
Good luck!
the heel stitching still rips out. on some pairs. it is not like there was a recall and Lake got
all the shoes off store shelves...so they are still out there
Lake will fix them for you (1 month turnaround) or pay for a local cobber to sew them up,
or you can stick half a tube of shoe goo in there yourself.
anyhow, the Lake shoe [fixed] is really awesome with the BOA lace. fast in, fast exit, unlike the
old lakes with laces plus impossible velcro straps. winter riding is fun again
you will need to keep an eye on the heel counter stitching. if it is a problem shoe it will fail
within 3, 3 hour rides.
anyhow I like Lake vs any other winter specific shoes for all the good reasons. the bum heel stitching
was a production problem, not a flaw with the shoe design
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I have a pair of Lake MX300 one size bigger than normal and a pair of Answer Kashmirs two sizes bigger. The Lakes get used for inclement spring/fall weather, the Answers are for serious cold weather riding.
I replaced the crappy insoles of the Lakes with some stock insoles which gave me a bit more wiggle room with thicker and/or water-proof socks. The Answers allow me to get away with a variety of sock combinations which can keep the toes toasty down into the -20°F range.
I replaced the crappy insoles of the Lakes with some stock insoles which gave me a bit more wiggle room with thicker and/or water-proof socks. The Answers allow me to get away with a variety of sock combinations which can keep the toes toasty down into the -20°F range.
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From all the comments that I have read over the last couple of years I am of the opinion that the Answer Kashmirs are as good as the Lakes and cost about half the price. I have the Kashmirs in two sizes over and they are very comfortable. But you may need to wear overboots over them for longer rides below 30F. As far as I know the Northwave boots are the only ones that are breathable. Or at least I though they once used Goretex instead of neoprene. They are reported to be the warmest of the bunch. All the rest use neoprene and don't breath so your foot eventually will get cold from it's own moisture and heat lost out the bottom of the sole. But they are much more convenient that putting multiple layers on your feet. Just 1 pair of thick wool socks on under the winter boots and off you go.
I would look at the new Pearl Izumi and Shimano winter shoes. They both use Goretex and are suppose to be breathable. This will keep your foot warmer longer in below freezing conditions. It seems that too many of the manufacturers are focusing on waterproofness instead of breathability. This is OK for some climates but doesn't work well for below freezing riding.
I would look at the new Pearl Izumi and Shimano winter shoes. They both use Goretex and are suppose to be breathable. This will keep your foot warmer longer in below freezing conditions. It seems that too many of the manufacturers are focusing on waterproofness instead of breathability. This is OK for some climates but doesn't work well for below freezing riding.
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i use my airwalk winter boots, excellent cold protection -20C, and incredibly comfy for biking, feels like wearing normal running shoes
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winter riding secret squirrel infos
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go to costco and buy a big box of handwarmers for 20 bucks
and for winter riding, use yer Lake [or otherwise no-mesh wintar shoe....]
slap on a wool sock
tape a handwarmer across the toes, [only need a small
piece of tape to hold it steady till yer foot is inside]
stick foot in your normal winter shoe and go ride
it should be good for 4 hours easy and often good for 5
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go to costco and buy a big box of handwarmers for 20 bucks
and for winter riding, use yer Lake [or otherwise no-mesh wintar shoe....]
slap on a wool sock
tape a handwarmer across the toes, [only need a small
piece of tape to hold it steady till yer foot is inside]
stick foot in your normal winter shoe and go ride
it should be good for 4 hours easy and often good for 5
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Not sure if this is what you are looking for but I wear Magnum or 511 tactical security guard/police boots. They are fairly durable in most weather (I get them to last a season of slush + a summer), with Wigwam -30 socks I have gotten this arrangement to work down to about -30 celcius (cold in farenheit). I have put my feet in plastic bags between the socks and the shoes on occasion. My feet get cold easily though.
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I wear LL Bean Snow Sneakers. I didn't want to spend $300 on a pair of shoes that I'd wear for a few months a year. I noticed my toes getting cold below 30f due to the material they have on top of the boot. A pair of toesties from PerformanceBike solved that problem. I wore the Snow Sneakers down in the single digits.
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I had the 301's that I wore every day for ~5 months a year for three seasons. Wasn't terribly impressed with the quality of the product, but their none to generous sizing didn't much help.
Today I ordered a new set of 302's (up a size and the new wide version) because I just couldn't seem to find anyone making a better product at any price. Heck, I couldn't find anyone, anywhere that would sell me a 48w except Lake directly. Which is why I think Lake gets away with charging what they do.
The nice thing about proper winter shoes is that all you have to do is put them on, whereas shoes, with special waterproof socks and booties and warmers all suck up yet more time and more opportunities for failure.
And heaven help you if you have to walk in bootie covered cycling shoes in the winter slop.
Today I ordered a new set of 302's (up a size and the new wide version) because I just couldn't seem to find anyone making a better product at any price. Heck, I couldn't find anyone, anywhere that would sell me a 48w except Lake directly. Which is why I think Lake gets away with charging what they do.
The nice thing about proper winter shoes is that all you have to do is put them on, whereas shoes, with special waterproof socks and booties and warmers all suck up yet more time and more opportunities for failure.
And heaven help you if you have to walk in bootie covered cycling shoes in the winter slop.
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Lake winter road shoe
Baselayer w/hood attached
100% closeknit wool sweater
IP Barrier jacket
J&G helmet cover
Bellweather bib tights w/foot strap
Sugoi winter pants
IP Attack padded shorts
Expedition weight balaclava
100% wool beanie
Sealskinz socks
Gordini Goretex gloves w/liners
Bolle ski goggles.
Most of this stuff I got on closeout or from a thrift store. The only indulgence were the Lakes and the IP jacket. The 100% lambswool sweater I got for 3.00 at the thriftsore. Ditto the socks(.49), beanie, (.99) and ski googles(1.99). Outside of the shoes and jacket I've got dulicates and some triplicates of these articles. Again, all purchased on closeout for up to 90% off in some cases.
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Has anyone ever tried Snowboard boots? I was thinking that they would work great for winter riding, because of the rigid sole and the light weight materials they are made out of...
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Ya, I have tried them. They work OK for short rides. They will keep your feet really warm. They are stiff and flat and not too heavy. They have every attribute a good winter cycling boot could have except one glaring flaw. The biggest problem is they are designed to isolate ankle motion which is the opposite of what you need while riding. However, if you could sacrifice a pair of old light snowboarding boots and cut off the top so they were kind of a low riding shoe they would work OK. YOu might wear a gaiter with them.
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That was my focal point when shopping, and I wound up with KEEN winterport boots, which are more or less an insulated shoe with an integral gaiter. My feet were very happy in these today.
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That was my focal point when shopping, and I wound up with KEEN winterport boots, which are more or less an insulated shoe with an integral gaiter. My feet were very happy in these today.
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Just ordered MW-80s after way too many winters with XC race shoes and overboots. Went half a size larger than usual. I'll give feedback here once I have some miles on them.