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12-02-09, 08:35 AM
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Every year the problem of fogging is pretty annoying. I try various anti fog solutions and they all disappoint. This year I already bought some goggles and modified them a bit to vent them some more, still, problems persist. So I wondered what nordic skiers do. It seems to me there are parallels between winter cycling and nordic skiing. I found these two products that seem interesting. Anyone try them or something similar?
https://www.nordicskiracer.com/cgi-bi...asp?NewsID=933
https://www.nordicvisor.com/
I'm thinking of giving the visor a try.
https://www.nordicskiracer.com/cgi-bi...asp?NewsID=933
https://www.nordicvisor.com/
I'm thinking of giving the visor a try.
12-02-09, 08:44 AM
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BTW, I'm kind of thinking the "Nordic Visor" is way too much money ($58) for what it is. I am sort of inclined to checking out Home Depot for a flip up face shield that can perhaps be cut down to size.
12-03-09, 08:48 AM
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I wear these over my Adidas cycling glasses with optic inserts. It prevents fogging better than anything else. Trust me. I have tried every fog prevention idea I could find.
https://www.icebike.org/Clothing/eyewear.htm
Describes them and references wear to buy.
https://www.icebike.org/Clothing/Ctes...e.htm#visorgog
Review.
https://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&key...l_60md0txd79_e
Buy from Amazon.
https://www.icebike.org/Clothing/eyewear.htm
Describes them and references wear to buy.
https://www.icebike.org/Clothing/Ctes...e.htm#visorgog
Review.
https://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&key...l_60md0txd79_e
Buy from Amazon.
12-03-09, 09:26 AM
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Every year the problem of fogging is pretty annoying. I try various anti fog solutions and they all disappoint. This year I already bought some goggles and modified them a bit to vent them some more, still, problems persist. So I wondered what nordic skiers do. It seems to me there are parallels between winter cycling and nordic skiing.....
The problem I have had with prescription eyeglasses and goggles is to provide enough windscreen protection over the eyeglasses with adequate ventilation so the moisture you exhale doesn't fog up the goggles and the eyeglasses. If they frost up, then it’s a really bad situation. An inescapable condition occurs when you're going uphill, or stopped and you are breathing hard yet moving slowly with less airflow to carry away the extra moisture.
I find that ski goggles are not up to cycling's demands due to insufficient ventilation, even with lens coatings. Also, one needs clear lenses since the early mornings and evenings are usually dark, yet most ski goggles are tinted. I wear an eyeglass rearview mirror, and it has to be mounted securely on the goggles, and still remain in my field of peripheral vision, but ski goggles have an elastic headband.
After years of experimenting, I have, IMO, a satisfactory solution as illustrated in the photos [see original post].
I wear a simple pair of clear safety glasses as you might buy at Home Depot. They are roomy enough to accommodate my eyeglasses. Because I wear a balaclava and a woolen cap under my helmet, along with the earpieces of the safety glasses and eyeglasses inside the helmet straps, my eyeglasses are pushed down uncomfortably onto my nose.
So I have sewn a strip of Velcro on my woolen cap, extending beyond the edge, and wrapped a piece of Velcro around the bridge of the safety glasses. After I have my balaclava, hat and helmet on and fastened, I insert the earpieces of the safety glasses beneath the helmet straps and attach the nosepiece with Velcro to the Velcro extending from beyond my cap and arrange it so the safety glasses are suspended from my cap and they don’t have to rest on my nose. Finally I attach the rearview eyeglass mirror securely on the rigid earpiece of the safety glasses.
Even though the safety glasses are widely open on the sides, I find the windscreen to be sufficient and the ventilation excellent, and my eyeglasses sit comfortably on my nose. My usual winter riding conditions are about 14 miles in the teens to 20’s Fahrenheit.
I find that ski goggles are not up to cycling's demands due to insufficient ventilation, even with lens coatings. Also, one needs clear lenses since the early mornings and evenings are usually dark, yet most ski goggles are tinted. I wear an eyeglass rearview mirror, and it has to be mounted securely on the goggles, and still remain in my field of peripheral vision, but ski goggles have an elastic headband.
After years of experimenting, I have, IMO, a satisfactory solution as illustrated in the photos [see original post].
I wear a simple pair of clear safety glasses as you might buy at Home Depot. They are roomy enough to accommodate my eyeglasses. Because I wear a balaclava and a woolen cap under my helmet, along with the earpieces of the safety glasses and eyeglasses inside the helmet straps, my eyeglasses are pushed down uncomfortably onto my nose.
So I have sewn a strip of Velcro on my woolen cap, extending beyond the edge, and wrapped a piece of Velcro around the bridge of the safety glasses. After I have my balaclava, hat and helmet on and fastened, I insert the earpieces of the safety glasses beneath the helmet straps and attach the nosepiece with Velcro to the Velcro extending from beyond my cap and arrange it so the safety glasses are suspended from my cap and they don’t have to rest on my nose. Finally I attach the rearview eyeglass mirror securely on the rigid earpiece of the safety glasses.
Even though the safety glasses are widely open on the sides, I find the windscreen to be sufficient and the ventilation excellent, and my eyeglasses sit comfortably on my nose. My usual winter riding conditions are about 14 miles in the teens to 20’s Fahrenheit.
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Has anybody tried swimming goggles? I'd figure that sport would have the most difficulty with humidity. Just a thought.
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I tried the flip-up face shield (cut down to just about nosetip level) and found that fogging was still a problem.
So I'm back to the old stand-by; safety glasses that slide over my prescription glasses. The benefit is that they are cheap and easily replaceable.
So I'm back to the old stand-by; safety glasses that slide over my prescription glasses. The benefit is that they are cheap and easily replaceable.
12-03-09, 09:33 PM
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Hmmm..
Interesting reference to the VisorGogs on the ice bike page, and an interesting way to offset safety glasses Jim. I've tried the offset method before (I just used an adjustable tether: didn't work so well but maybe I will give it another try.
Chucky, for swimming the temperature differential is not sufficient for the sports to be comparable. Solutions for nordic skiing and perhaps paint ball are more applicable to biking.
Blue, thanks for the info on the flip-up. I went to the Home Depot the other day but my wife figured I'm up to something and clearly said "no more stupid ideas".
I'm now pondering power vented goggles. Did a search for "fan goggles" on eBay and you get some hits for snow board goggles ~$120, and some hits for paint ball goggles at ~$40. Apparently pain ballers have big problems with goggle fog. I just don't know if these goggles will last in the moisture we deal with. Anyone have experience with "fan goggles"?
Interesting reference to the VisorGogs on the ice bike page, and an interesting way to offset safety glasses Jim. I've tried the offset method before (I just used an adjustable tether: didn't work so well but maybe I will give it another try.
Chucky, for swimming the temperature differential is not sufficient for the sports to be comparable. Solutions for nordic skiing and perhaps paint ball are more applicable to biking.
Blue, thanks for the info on the flip-up. I went to the Home Depot the other day but my wife figured I'm up to something and clearly said "no more stupid ideas".
I'm now pondering power vented goggles. Did a search for "fan goggles" on eBay and you get some hits for snow board goggles ~$120, and some hits for paint ball goggles at ~$40. Apparently pain ballers have big problems with goggle fog. I just don't know if these goggles will last in the moisture we deal with. Anyone have experience with "fan goggles"?
12-03-09, 09:56 PM
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Just did a search for "fan goggles" on the forum and got a ton of hits for the Smiths. Guess the consensus is that they work well. Pricey though, makes me want to try the paint ball ones.
12-04-09, 07:58 AM
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Anyway, swimming goggles are cheap, so I think I'm going to try them and find out what the problem is. Google is not very helpful for discovering the pros/cons of different goggle designs.
I'm now pondering power vented goggles. Did a search for "fan goggles" on eBay and you get some hits for snow board goggles ~$120, and some hits for paint ball goggles at ~$40. Apparently pain ballers have big problems with goggle fog. I just don't know if these goggles will last in the moisture we deal with. Anyone have experience with "fan goggles"?
12-04-09, 08:57 AM
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Chucky, indeed I did take an exacto knife to my goggles and cut out sections to allow more circulation. It improved things but not enough. On uphills and intersections I still had problems. This is why I'm looking for something that flip ups.
Check these Brims out:
https://www.brimz.ca/
They're availebl on eBay for cheap too.
I think I will give these a try. The cap/rim will keep rain/snow off the top. They flip up too. In addition they're available in clear and yellow.
The other cheap option I was considering was a pair of "clip on" "flip up" driving glasses that attach to normal glasses. I figure I could take an old sunglass frame, remove the lens and attach this "clip on/flip up" attachment. Anyways, a search for this led me to discover the "Brimz" above.
Check these Brims out:
https://www.brimz.ca/
They're availebl on eBay for cheap too.
I think I will give these a try. The cap/rim will keep rain/snow off the top. They flip up too. In addition they're available in clear and yellow.
The other cheap option I was considering was a pair of "clip on" "flip up" driving glasses that attach to normal glasses. I figure I could take an old sunglass frame, remove the lens and attach this "clip on/flip up" attachment. Anyways, a search for this led me to discover the "Brimz" above.
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12-04-09, 08:58 AM
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Oh, and about the fan goggles, I worry they wouldn't last long with my commute :/. Looking for something simpler and waterproof. Your swimming goggle idea matches these requirements so I'd be interested to find out how you fare.
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Here are some more flip up visor leads for you:
https://www.gathsports.com/
https://www.elvex.com/
I actually have the big elvex visor, but since I bought it for sun protection and want to add a tint film to it I'm looking for something light and small to protect my eyes in dark cold conditions.
Yeah, I'm a bit perplexed why there's so little information out there on the difference in goggle designs. I'll post back once I get a chance to experiment.
https://www.gathsports.com/
https://www.elvex.com/
I actually have the big elvex visor, but since I bought it for sun protection and want to add a tint film to it I'm looking for something light and small to protect my eyes in dark cold conditions.
Yeah, I'm a bit perplexed why there's so little information out there on the difference in goggle designs. I'll post back once I get a chance to experiment.
