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Old 12-21-09, 08:55 PM
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If I was going to be riding in the really cold north I would go with something like this:

http://www.summithut.com/products/ab...zero-overboot/

Only 14 ounces and really warm. Worn in a smaller size over a pair of cycling sandals with thick wool socks. They would be about as warm as you can get. You wouldn't need them to go over mountaineering boots so you could wear a smaller size. Combine this with a large surface area platform pedal with studs or with an integrated SPD clip. Or you could wear them over a pair of old mountainbike shoes. The nice thing about the sandals is that there is lots of trapped air space on the top of the foot with no tight restrictions to cut off the blood flow.

When you get to work you take off the overboots and wear the sandals with thick socks around. No need to carry extra shoes.
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Old 12-21-09, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Eclectus View Post
Let's see, I'm thinking you're riding on platforms, maybe with Power Grip XLs.

Had to Goggle 'Power Grips'.. yes something older and similar.. regular metal toothed flat petal. Might not be so cool per looks.. but they are WARM.. .

Was wondering why my hamstrings seemed more sore than usual.... finally on the 4th ride on my 'Wallys' the light switch.. such as it is.. finally went on. The soles are a good inch thick ++... the leg didn't extend as much as with my shoes. Ok.. so I moved my petal position to mid foot vs the ball of my foot... and right away it worked. Seems fairly comfortable too.. I'll ride again with this routine to see if it continues to feel ok... seat post wrench along just in case.

Did get the 'Wallys' a size too large.. easier on and off. The outside profile of these 12's isn't nearly as cumbersome as the traditional woods type sorel... which I had used yrs back. And they aren't nearly as heavy.........

If you want cost efficent... and something that works.... 'Wallys' keep the feet warm.
Edit: So I looked at those Absoulute Zero boots... look super. Wallys look very similar but weigh 4 lbs.. I just scaled them. Gave me the idea to get some data on how much clothes weight I use.. came to 10.5 lbs with boots. But I'm into it to keep winter at bay.. and get some cardio... weight.. as in MINE.. is the only issue of that type for me.

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Old 12-21-09, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by hshearer View Post
One more idea... someone on here suggested SPD sandals and wool socks once. I'm pretty tempted to combine that idea with my neoprene SCUBA boots, since I sometimes can pull my foot right out of my husband's shoes (with all the other stuff around my ankles, I can't lace them tightly enough to hold onto my foot 100%).
I'm using a similar setup: Keen Commuter sandals with Perl Izumi covers. All the LBS had was XXL size, and they fit snug over the sandals, but not too hard to put on. I rode 6mi to work this am in low 30's (F) with my light cotton dress socks and was toasty warm. I've also ridden in mid-30's with heavy wool socks and no covers. My toes got cold after about 8 miles, but that's as far as I needed to go.

I'll bet the combo of heavy wool socks and the covers would be too warm above 20F.

Strange feeling to be wearing sandals in the winter on a bike.
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Old 12-22-09, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by tsl View Post
Did you try ordering direct from Lake?

When I bought mine (also 48s) two years ago, I learned that only the regular width were available though distribution. Only those dealers who buy direct from Lake (like Likbike) and Lake themselves carried the wide.
I just picked up a pair of 46 wide from Belmont Wheelworks outside of Boston, so either that was wrong, or has since changed. According to their measurements, my size in Lakes would be 44; I bought the size 46 to have plenty of room for warm socks. Definitely more room than the size 45 Northwaves they replaced.

Haven't had a chance to do a ride with them, but I'm thinking maybe tomorrow. Christmas day is possible as well.

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Old 01-06-10, 12:15 AM
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Another vote for the Lakes. I'm on my second season with them. -15 C this morning and 7km commute. Felt fine. -5C New years day, 3hrs on the trail, felt great. I have started to get cold after a couple of hours of road riding around -10C. What lunatic just goes for a ride a -10 anyway? (sheepshly slinks away...) Anyway, I've probably got 6000-8000 km on them and my only complain is that I'm on my third set of laces. I suspect I overtighten them. I do like the BOA system nonetheless and laces are $4 and easy to replace, so there's that.

BTW I picked mine up o the cheap on the Ebay in the off season. Would pay retail to replace.
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Old 01-06-10, 12:35 AM
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Taken from another post Re: my experience with Lake MXZ302s:

These shoes do what they are supposed to, but considering that I paid nearly $300, which seems especially expensive for a Chinese product, I expected them to be more durable, and not to have what is apparently a design flaw with the back-bottom coming apart. I had that problem with both of mine, and Lake "fixed" them and sent them back to me in short order. But that wasn't long ago and at least one of them is already coming apart again. The sole is coming detached from the upper in several locations too - I know the manual states fixing this periodically, but having this much trouble in less than two full seasons seems a bit much. I'm going to try to fix what I can tomorrow, but I think I may be calling Lake to complain, even though they are now out-of warranty. I don't know if they will last another season, at least without having a cobbler go over them. I might be looking for a new pair, and as it stands now they won't be from Lake.

Has anyone tried another brand? Check this out: http://www.wintercyclingshoes.com/ In addition to Lake, they have Shimano, Sidi, Pearl Izumi, and "Northwave".

Edit: I found Boa's site and they have a guarantee to register for which lets you get free replacement laces. Pretty nice! http://www.boatechnology.com/guarantee

Edit#2, New: I went over the boots today, cleaned them up, and found that, indeed, the leather is separating from the back of the sole on both of them once again, though one is much worse than the other. This is going to have to be fixed by a cobbler after the season unless my wife is capable, and the way things are going this is going to become a yearly event. I also used Shoe-Goo to try to "fix" three areas where the sole was becoming detached from the leather in the front of the boots. I'd be quite happy with these boots if only they'd stay together, but again, as it stands now I'll be checking out another brand when it's time to replace.
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Old 01-06-10, 08:55 AM
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Edit: I found Boa's site and they have a guarantee to register for which lets you get free replacement laces. Pretty nice! http://www.boatechnology.com/guarantee
Holy cow, that's awesome. Thanks.

I've twice ordered new laces from BOA and paid for them and both times attached a note saying "This is for my Lake winter cycyling boot" just to be sure I got the right product. Never did the customer service folk write back and say "Oh, there's a guarantee for that." I'm both happy and kind of annoyed.
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Old 01-06-10, 12:03 PM
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I have answer kasmir winter MTB boots. They are ok, but not the performance I was hoping. In 20 degree weather with wool socks, my feet start to get cold after about 2 hours. Recently, I have been wearing a pair of MTB booties on top of them, which has helped, as they aren't as windproof as I would like. I did just order a pair of toasty feet insoles, so hopefully that will aid in warmth.
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Old 01-06-10, 10:47 PM
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I got screwed today. My boots came, but the delivery person didn't make enough noise or didn't ring the doorbell and I didn't know they came :<. When I left the house to go for a ride, I saw the delivery attempt notice on the door, which made my freezing feet that more annoying.
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Old 01-07-10, 02:05 PM
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Mtb shoes in a neoprene bootie work good for me.
Winter Sidis' for my mtb
Commuting with LL Bean Wildcat boots on BMX pedals.
Wildcats seem to be working out so far.
Good luck, angrysaki.
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Old 01-07-10, 04:26 PM
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I have been waiting for a really cold day before replying to this. I got some Lake MX140 shoes a few weeks ago after riding the last two winters with a pair of Diadora Patrol shoes. The Diadoras worked okay down to about 20F with booties but I got tired of struggling with the booties so I bit the bullet and bought the Lakes Got them in a half size bigger to give a little sock room. My feet don't get cold very easily - I ski/snowboard in liner socks and ice skate with no socks.

These shoes have no insulation so I have been trying different combinations of socks - coolmax liner, Neosock neoprene, and Gore Alaska winter. The neoprene socks are the warmest so far. Haven't tried wool socks yet.

I took them for a 40 mile ride last week, temperatures in the 30's, wearing liner socks and my feet were definitely cold most of the time. Wearing just liner socks the shoes are actually cooler than my Diadoras.

I have been commuting in 25-30F temperatures in the Gore socks and have been comfortable but my old shoes also worked fine in that range.

Today it was around 0F and I rode with liner socks in a pair of neoprene socks (Neosocks) and my toes were fairly cold after about 20 minutes though not numb.

All in all, I am not convinced that this was the right choice for my winter commmuting/riding.
The Lakes are hard to walk in as the soles are very stiff and angled like a racing shoe. The Patrols are more like stiff walking shoes so I could keep them on at work if I had to.
They don't feel significantly warmer than my old shoes given the same sock/shoe combination. Perhaps some thick wool socks will work better than the neoprene ones.

What I love about the shoe is ease of on/off with the BOA system - it has made getting out the door easier and faster.
They are supposed to be waterproof but I doubt if I will test that much here - 300+ day so sunshine.

They were pricey, especially considering the Diadora Patrol can be had for $15.00 on clearance and the Lakes are almost $200.00. I think that if I were a dedicated off-road winter mtb rider then I might find these worth the money but for commuting I'd keep looking.

Anyone want to buy a slightly used pair of winter cycling shoes with never-used spikes included.
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Just finished trying out my boots (mxz302's). It was fairly warm today (-6C/21F) so it wasn't a great test for them, but my feet did get a little cool after about an hour and a half. They never got cold enough for me to complain though. I was only wearing one thin pair of wool socks today, and I got them big and should be able to get atleast 3 pairs in there. I did a ride yesterday and it was -8 i think, and my feet froze with my old shoes+booties+ducktape+extra socks (they started hurting like hell when I came in and warmed up), so this is a massive improvement. I'll have to hold out on a verdict until it get colder.

What I love about the shoe is ease of on/off with the BOA system
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The only problem is that now I wish all my shoes had that lacing system
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It's my impression that the main heat loss is out the bottom (metal cleats are good heat conductors. My escalation path is: Wool socks + extra insole + double socks + gators + heat pack

Next is huddle indoors and whimper quietly.
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Originally Posted by AngrySaki View Post
Just finished trying out my boots (mxz302's). It was fairly warm today (-6C/21F)
21F is fairly warm? I thought I could tolerate the cold well...
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It's my impression that the main heat loss is out the bottom (metal cleats are good heat conductors
I was tempted to get the road version for this reason, since I have plastic Look KEO cleats on my summer bike, but I like riding around in the snow and thought mountain cleats are probably better for that.

21F is fairly warm? I thought I could tolerate the cold well...
I should have said relatively warm... . The sun was nice and bright and there was minimal wind, which helped quite a bit.
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Old 01-08-10, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by kmcrawford111 View Post
21F is fairly warm? I thought I could tolerate the cold well...
21 can feel really cold or really nice. It's been hanging around 0 for the last few days. I think the next time I'm out in 20 degree weather it will seem downright balmy. Actually I consider temps in the 20s to be about ideal for winter.
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Old 01-08-10, 10:18 PM
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I hear that... to me, the worst riding conditions are when it's just warm enough for freezing rain, and it's dark, and there's a headwind...
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I have the Garneau winter shoes and went out for my first real cold ride in them today (15* when I started) At first I was worried because my feet did get cold, but that didn't last and my feet we nice and warm (sweaty even) when I got home. This was only an hour long ride and in the woods, so perhaps not a real test of the shoes. I knew when I got these that they were probably not as good as the Lakes or others, but they were easier to get from my LBS.
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Originally Posted by Eclectus View Post
Does Assos make uber-cold gear for a tiny clique of cyclists, when most of Assos' high-spending customers are riding indoors, or skiing? No.
Depends how you define "uber-cold".

On Monday I wore my Assos 851 jacket with just a simple polyester baselayer in 20F (wind chill was supposedly 14) and I was fine. Based on my limited exposure to the Assos FuguJack and Winter Interactive baselayer, I would bet that combination is good down to 10F. Now add an ElementOne or IntermediateEVO jersey in between, and you could probably cycle around all day in 0F...assuming you could get out of the house fast enough before overheating and passing out.

Or did you mean "uber-snowy" ?
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I have had the Lake's for four years. Expensive, but have held up really well and very comfortable and warm enough to -5 C for two hours. Below that they are good for an hour and a half and then I tend to do a bit of walking to get the circulation going. If and when I buy another pair I will go one size larger so I can fit a warmer pair of socks or two pair. The other good thing about these boots is resistance to the wet and salt on the roads. Definitely as warm as ski boots, so take it from there.\
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I can't afford that amazing stuff. I use 2 layers of wool socks with hand warmers taped in place. for waterproofing I use rubber over boots. I use toe clips without the straps so it all fits fine. my boss nearly has a heart attack when he sees me cuz he has the money for the expensive stuff.
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I went with the LL Bean Snow Sneaker. They were cheaper and make for a nice winter cycling boot. They keep me comfortable down to about 5f. They have 200 grams of Primaloft insulation which is far superior to Thinsulate. I'm looking at LL Beans Wildcat boots with 400 grams of Primaloft for the below zero stuff. I recieved The North Face Baltoro 400's but sent them back because they were too narrow. They didn't feel comfortable with two pair of socks. And it was a little too tall for my liking. I read too many mixed reviews on the Lakes and other similar cycling boots. I'm sure they're nice boots. But I wanted something a little more winter hearty. And I feel comfortable riding in the Snow Sneakers in anything below 42f. They're stylish and easy to walk in.
interesting, they even come with a velcro version so there's no laces to snag.
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That's the style I have. Mine are 3 yrs old and still holding up good. The velcro is easier to adjust, get on/get off. Get a pair of LL Bean boot socks for a great winter combo. Since my original post. I sent the Wildcat boots back. They flunked my cold weather test. I only wore them in 12f and my toes started getting cold after 40mins. That compared to the Snow Sneakers. So no way would they keep my toes from freezing at 0f or below. Now, as of this date. I picked up a pair of NEOS Explorer's. And they're working so far. With the homemade Power grips I have they fit the pedals real good. In the winter I'm concerned with staying warm and comfortable.


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My neoprene boots have lasted just fine..But, often they are too hot..... But, the vinyl PI shoe covers.. Clicking and unclicking . They were worn /ripped and toast after just one season..
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Considering the author lives near Toronto where the weather is "frisky" at it's worst, you should be fine with your favorite pair of mountain bike shoes and neoprene covers. I personally use mtb shoes and specialized neoprene covers in daily -10 to -15 Celsius (before windchill), down to -25C(before windchill) and they have served me well. Now finding warm gloves that still allow you flexibility to shift gears, that's a challenge!
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