Spokes/Rim recommendation for winter road cycling?
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Spokes/Rim recommendation for winter road cycling?
I was out yesterday for the first time in a few weeks after an injury, and was riding for about 3 hours on the road, on mostly clear roads but with quitea few still covered in snow and ice. I cleaned my bike this morning and found I had four snapped spokes on the rear (all snapped at the hub). I had none snap on the front rim, where I have a new second hand rim (if that makes sense) which has spokes that are coated in something - I'm not sure if it's just paint or what but it seems to have done the trick. The rear rim, on the other hand, has fewer spokes (I think 32 instead of 36) and has uncoated spokes (they're a grey-ish colour, not shiny, so I'm guessing they're aluminium).
I'm going to go into my LBS tomorrow and see if there's something up with the rim, or if I can get a better rim for winter use. Any recommendations for a better type of 26" rim, or is this something to be expected? I'll probably get a second hand rim rather than a new one, so general recommendations rather than specific make/model would be appreciated... Thanks!
I'm going to go into my LBS tomorrow and see if there's something up with the rim, or if I can get a better rim for winter use. Any recommendations for a better type of 26" rim, or is this something to be expected? I'll probably get a second hand rim rather than a new one, so general recommendations rather than specific make/model would be appreciated... Thanks!
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Well there's not much more to say than in general go with a double walled rim. Since that describes any rim outside the bottom of the barrel, that's not going to help you much. You might take some time to look around at online reviews to see what others like and actually spend the money for a new rim. Even if this is a rim issue (more on that later), why would you ditch one fouled up rim to get another used and abused rim? It doesn't make sense.
HOWEVER, I suspect that the real problem is not your rim at all but in the spokes. Bicycle wheels don't use aluminum spokes. If those spokes were that greyish color when they were new then I'm guessing they're cheap zinc-plated spokes which are not as strong as stainless steel. If they are, they'll be rusting where the plating has flaked off. If they turned grey over time, then it's probably a case of severe corrosion. This also weakens a spoke.
Finally, if the wheel was not properly tensioned as will be the case with many cheap machine-built wheels, it will be prone to breakage.
In short, I wouldn't go into the LBS with a particular solution in mind. I would go in with the wheel with the snapped spokes and ask them what the cause is and what you should do.
HOWEVER, I suspect that the real problem is not your rim at all but in the spokes. Bicycle wheels don't use aluminum spokes. If those spokes were that greyish color when they were new then I'm guessing they're cheap zinc-plated spokes which are not as strong as stainless steel. If they are, they'll be rusting where the plating has flaked off. If they turned grey over time, then it's probably a case of severe corrosion. This also weakens a spoke.
Finally, if the wheel was not properly tensioned as will be the case with many cheap machine-built wheels, it will be prone to breakage.
In short, I wouldn't go into the LBS with a particular solution in mind. I would go in with the wheel with the snapped spokes and ask them what the cause is and what you should do.
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Originally Posted by bostontrevor
Well there's not much more to say than in general go with a double walled rim. Since that describes any rim outside the bottom of the barrel, that's not going to help you much. You might take some time to look around at online reviews to see what others like and actually spend the money for a new rim. Even if this is a rim issue (more on that later), why would you ditch one fouled up rim to get another used and abused rim? It doesn't make sense.
HOWEVER, I suspect that the real problem is not your rim at all but in the spokes. Bicycle wheels don't use aluminum spokes. If those spokes were that greyish color when they were new then I'm guessing they're cheap zinc-plated spokes which are not as strong as stainless steel. If they are, they'll be rusting where the plating has flaked off. If they turned grey over time, then it's probably a case of severe corrosion. This also weakens a spoke.
HOWEVER, I suspect that the real problem is not your rim at all but in the spokes. Bicycle wheels don't use aluminum spokes. If those spokes were that greyish color when they were new then I'm guessing they're cheap zinc-plated spokes which are not as strong as stainless steel. If they are, they'll be rusting where the plating has flaked off. If they turned grey over time, then it's probably a case of severe corrosion. This also weakens a spoke.
Originally Posted by bostontrevor
Finally, if the wheel was not properly tensioned as will be the case with many cheap machine-built wheels, it will be prone to breakage.
In short, I wouldn't go into the LBS with a particular solution in mind. I would go in with the wheel with the snapped spokes and ask them what the cause is and what you should do.
In short, I wouldn't go into the LBS with a particular solution in mind. I would go in with the wheel with the snapped spokes and ask them what the cause is and what you should do.
Thanks for the comments!
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Just use quality DB spokes, theym should not break no matter what the conditions. you probably dont have good spoke tension all the way around so it would not hurt to check that out. If your going for a new wheelset which i recommend i would go Sun or velocity rims, they are as good as mavic and not overpriced.
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Wait, when you say "rims" do you mean wheels? The rim is just the metal band that goes around the outside of the wheel. The wheel is the entire assembly of rim, spokes, and hub.
If you're talking about getting a whole other used wheel not rebuilding the current wheel with a different used rim, that's a different matter. Often a used wheel will be fine with just a little touch-up truing and tensioning.
Also, there's nothing about the mechanics of wheel construction that's really affected by winter. There's no such thing as a summer wheel and a winter wheel except that some people like to use a trashier wheel for winter just because road salt can do a number on the metal. Otherwise a wheel that's mechanically unsound in the winter will be just as mechanically unsound in the summer.
If you're talking about getting a whole other used wheel not rebuilding the current wheel with a different used rim, that's a different matter. Often a used wheel will be fine with just a little touch-up truing and tensioning.
Also, there's nothing about the mechanics of wheel construction that's really affected by winter. There's no such thing as a summer wheel and a winter wheel except that some people like to use a trashier wheel for winter just because road salt can do a number on the metal. Otherwise a wheel that's mechanically unsound in the winter will be just as mechanically unsound in the summer.
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Originally Posted by bostontrevor
Wait, when you say "rims" do you mean wheels? The rim is just the metal band that goes around the outside of the wheel. The wheel is the entire assembly of rim, spokes, and hub.
Originally Posted by bostontrevor
If you're talking about getting a whole other used wheel not rebuilding the current wheel with a different used rim, that's a different matter. Often a used wheel will be fine with just a little touch-up truing and tensioning.
Originally Posted by bostontrevor
Also, there's nothing about the mechanics of wheel construction that's really affected by winter. There's no such thing as a summer wheel and a winter wheel except that some people like to use a trashier wheel for winter just because road salt can do a number on the metal. Otherwise a wheel that's mechanically unsound in the winter will be just as mechanically unsound in the summer.