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03-03-10, 01:06 PM
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Just mention it to Chris Lotts(CBR). Maybe you won't be the only one that has complained to him.
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No S***! I have not raced yet this yr due to knee problems, but I was at the Callville Bay Classic hanging with my friends all weekend. I think I must have heard about these guys no less than 20 times. Everyone was saying how terribly scary it was to race with them. I guess they have zero bike handling skills.
03-03-10, 04:39 PM
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I haven't found their facebook page yet but apparently it said something to the effect of "soon they will fear us". I really have to wonder how much of their Poo is just wrecklessness.
03-03-10, 05:03 PM
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What do you do when...
You are dealing in the lower categories with 4 or 5 strong but stupid riders that have decided to form a team and menace any race they enter? These guys are totally cluless about pack handling, I mean everyone makes mistakes in cat4's but these guys seem determined to make the race dangerous. IMO it's a testiment to the other cat4's that these idiots haven't taken anyone else out.
Givens:
Considerations:
Will a USAC official do anything about it?
Will CBR do anything about it?
Do they need a gentle intoduction to the curb? (if it was higher categories I guess that would be a given)
(ughhh) Actually talk to them? (ick) (problem here is I fear it resorting to threats.)
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You are dealing in the lower categories with 4 or 5 strong but stupid riders that have decided to form a team and menace any race they enter? These guys are totally cluless about pack handling, I mean everyone makes mistakes in cat4's but these guys seem determined to make the race dangerous. IMO it's a testiment to the other cat4's that these idiots haven't taken anyone else out.
Givens:
- I won't be upgrading anytime soon.
- Yelling at them hasn't made a noticible difference.
- Some of them are wearing freaking tennis shoes!
- They're physically pretty fit for the 4's.
- I have much better form this year and don't want to sit out the finishes just because of not being able to trust the pack with them in it.
- The 4's this year are fairly smooth otherwise.
- They don't seem to be taking the gentle hints.
- They don't seem to have anyone to mentor them.
- They don't have the benefit of having crashed yet.
Considerations:
Will a USAC official do anything about it?
Will CBR do anything about it?
Do they need a gentle intoduction to the curb? (if it was higher categories I guess that would be a given)
(ughhh) Actually talk to them? (ick) (problem here is I fear it resorting to threats.)
Thanks
03-03-10, 07:08 PM
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they are too funny...i saw them warming up next to me the first race of the year...there was this jack A in a suit with sneakers on with his arm in a cast that i thought looked like a total fool, walking around like he was the team leader/director. i went to register and they had decided to use my trainer to warm up and take the spot i had picked to warm up, so i kindly informed them "ummm...you're on my ****, can i have it back and my space to warm up". I think they are mostly a Cat 4/5 team right? I don't think i have seen any of them in the 3's yet? I haven't seen them race, i'll have to ask my new guys in the 5's about them.
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or in other words Team starts with W and rhymes with Banker. sounds like you need to talk to the other teams and riders and squeeze them out. Make it clear that they are not welcome.
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they are too funny...i saw them warming up next to me the first race of the year...there was this jack A in a suit with sneakers on with his arm in a cast that i thought looked like a total fool, walking around like he was the team leader/director. i went to register and they had decided to use my trainer to warm up and take the spot i had picked to warm up, so i kindly informed them "ummm...you're on my ****, can i have it back and my space to warm up". I think they are mostly a Cat 4/5 team right? I don't think i have seen any of them in the 3's yet? I haven't seen them race, i'll have to ask my new guys in the 5's about them.
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03-03-10, 08:01 PM
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So how many drinks or tokes had he had before hand? Did you do the charitable thing and push him over?
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Hello vladav,
If you and a few others approach Chris in a calm manner he will probably warn those guys that he's watching them. I haven't seen him throw too many paying customers out of races but he has done it on occasion.
If you and a few others approach Chris in a calm manner he will probably warn those guys that he's watching them. I haven't seen him throw too many paying customers out of races but he has done it on occasion.
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Ah ok. first time ever may be forgiven.
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I've actually been confused lately, did your two teams merge or something?
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i rode with these guys a little over a year. they started out riding night rides like wolfpack hustle. they do lack mentorship and respond very poorly to constructive criticism. the whole "us VS them" mentality is very strong. half of it is the fact that they stick out as a cohesive unit, and have seen various riders from team get called out for things other riders did.
they aren't going to stop racing anytime soon, of course unless their bikes are disabled. the only way to deal with it is to just push the pace at every race. We did our best to control the pace in the 4/5 race at ontario this past weekend averaging 26.47mph and we managed to render their sprinter useless. The closer their sprinter is out front the more they try to execute 'tactics'
they aren't going to stop racing anytime soon, of course unless their bikes are disabled. the only way to deal with it is to just push the pace at every race. We did our best to control the pace in the 4/5 race at ontario this past weekend averaging 26.47mph and we managed to render their sprinter useless. The closer their sprinter is out front the more they try to execute 'tactics'