BudFox

I've completed all 4 clinics and races and plan on doing the last one too. Any idea how I can verify that I've received the points for them?

stien

Yep, that's his Soma.

acaurora

I had asked the people at registration, and they said that the pts will not show up until the end of the clinics, which I believe should've been last week. However I just checked myself on USAC and its still not there.

BudFox

They did say there would be another clinic in two weeks, though not as structured.

acaurora

Another clinic? Isn't that the race?

ericm979

You track the points yourself. Don't depend in the USAC to track them. In fact the points on USAC aren't upgrade points, theyre some special points that only have meaning to USAC.

BudFox

That makes no sense. My understanding is that the Early Bird clinics and races do count towards an upgrade.

kudude

It's complicated. Sort of, except not.

1) You keep track of your upgrade points. When you get 10 starts (EB training clinics start), apply for your 4s upgrade
2) the points he's talking about appear on USAC when you log on. If you place in a race you may get 10 points or something -- these aren't upgrade points. These are ranking points of some sort. Don't worry about them.

milliron

Yeah, that's what I was told. That a list would be compiled after the last one and submitted.

arexjay

USAC does not equal NCNCA. Their points aren't the same. For NCNCA upgrades, keep track of your points. Don't expect USAC or NCNCA to calculate your points, or even register all of your placings.

Kevinative

[QUOTE=milliron;12131797]Being in the drops seems massively advantageous when cornering at speed. Lower center of gravity and more protection for your bars.

one guy rides in the drops and his arms are nearly fully extended. another guy rides on the hoods and he has about an 80 degree angle at his elbow. who has a lower center of gravity, who is more aero? I'd wager that the guy on the hoods with less arm surface area catching wind is more aero, and he might even have a lower center of gravity if his shoulder ends up being lower, and more aero due to less upper body catching wind.

now being in the drops with a 90 degree bend at the elbows? unthinkable for me right now.

BudFox

So it's on the honor system? Interesting.

Here's the official 5 to 4 upgrade rules from NCNCA: "Experience in 10 mass start races. Local Associations may also establish policies where upgrade credit is given for taking a sanctioned rider education clinic."

To me, that means that 4 Early Bird sessions + 4 more race starts = Upgrade. Anyone disagree?

shovelhd

USAC says maximum of 3 upgrade points for clinics or camps.

rydaddy

This is correct. I heard they only give 1.5 "starts" per EB now.

Last year we got 2 "starts" per clinic/training race. I went to 2 EB's to get my Cat 4 upgrade before the season got underway.

mebaxter

Yep, pretty much taking your word for it. You recieve 1/2 point for each clinic and 1 point for each race. Used to be if you did all five clinics and races you were good to go for an jump to 4. To many people were upgrading without be ready for it so they refined the rules. So you need 3 more starts to qualify now. Though you need to ask yourself am I ready to upgrade and what do I gain by upgrading. Do you really want to race with twice as many dudes pulling the same stunts??

stien

I'm planning on doing 4 usac sanctioned training races leading up to a race in the same place, what does those count for?
Example.

Colonelmom

Here a a picture I took from the Tour... all but one are in the drops