Doge

I very much doubt that. I know masters non-pros that get more. For one we don't bid out for what we will get. Our team and sponsors support and I'm grateful for it, but most the funding comes from us (family) - just like soccer and volleyball and all the rest of the kids sports. HE doesn't need a Cannondale EVO, a MASI, a Venge and a Tarmac and all the kits he has, but they are a required part of being on the team. If I just sponsored him alone, I'd save money.

2015 USAC was paid $1,500 for my son to ride as a 17-18 year olds in Paris Roubaix. USAC provided meals lodging, cools kits and race fees. Second trip pay $750 then $0.

abhirama

Yup, sure it's the saddle. I hadn't thought of using an elastic thread. I'll try and find it and if I can't I'll use tight spacing with normal thread. Thanks!

gsteinb

actually this is a bit easier. the folks we're buying from had their sale fall through over the weekend. we made an offer a few hours after it went on the market. it looks like we can move in early and rent from them until our closing, and even if not we can store our stuff and scatter for a few weeks. my son will be in various summer programs and my wife is pretty small. I'll just head north with the dogs and hide out in the mountains.

gsteinb

globecanvas

Sweet, you're moving onto the float I assume?

gsteinb

Too close to cold water. I'll be living in the hot tub.

globecanvas

And is this good or evil state?

Gramercy

Wife is away for the week for work, I'm on 100% baby duty - hoping to get the kid to daycare a few minutes earlier than usual so I can get in some commute time to work.

gsteinb

Sadly my license will continue to read 'NJ.'

TheKillerPenguin

The silver lining is you get to unironically blast Bon Jovi.

globecanvas

I just accidentally shaved my face. Now nobody will recognize me. #aeroface #anonyface

gsteinb

"honey, do you want to stay by the lake or go to the mountain house this weekend?" #firstworldproblems

TheKillerPenguin

Instant 2mph

globecanvas

Sadly, no.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FkmCLOjk2h8

shovelhd

You are mixing club sponsorship with USAC sponsorship to make a point. They are completely different things. If Sho-Air wants to give their Masters bikes, so be it. Not a penny of my dues paid for it. That's completely different than development, which gets a significant portion of my dues. I understand that the bottom line doesn't matter to you, but it does to the membership at large.

shovelhd

Please make sure to reintroduce yourself.

furiousferret

I have 1 million frequent flyer points and a six pack of beer, brt.

gsteinb

The over whelming majority of people involved in racing don't care about junior development. They race for fun and fitness. It's participatory. Exercise. While I hope the sport grows and juniors find their way into it, I'm not interested in paying more money to offset their development costs, I'm not watching their races, I'm not even reading about their races. I show up, hang with my friends, get my work in, and go home to my family. It's really not all that different than any number of sports where people's primary interest is doing it. Cycling is not a spectator sport here, and it never will be. Ever. Not ever. Football is a spectator sport. Not a generally participatory one.

Participation in most sports is down simply because kids have so many choices. We don't even have a prayer of getting the best athletes involved in cycling due to how many options, and how much easier most sports are to get involved in.

shovelhd

I want development to be a part of the mission that I am willing to pay for. What I do not like is how lopsided the focus and funding is. I know the UCI has influence but it has to be more than that. It's misplaced priorities.

This is a sport dominated by aging athletes that supports new riders by picking a few dozen to be the future and letting the rest jump into the deep end of the pool strapped to a cinder block with no requirement for swim lessons. The aging athletes are going to age out, as the sport will become more like triathlon and crossfit and grand fundo.

TheKillerPenguin

CT seems to have their jr dev program down to a science and I would love to see other state-level initiatives similar to CCAP. I have no idea where their money comes from but they're making it work.

shovelhd

Aetna

furiousferret

In California much of our junior development comes from our High School Mountain Bike league. We have some fast kids in our area and they got trounced by the NorCal kids. If even a fraction of them cross over then well be doing pretty good.

Supposedly there isn't a road league because of insurance and cost, even going on craigslist road is expensive to start up.

TheKillerPenguin

Alls I'm saying is if gas companies supported youth cycling I would support hydrofracking in CNY and especially Long Island, but not the Hudson Valley, because that's too much.

mike868y

as someone who starting riding as a junior, i love witnessing junior development and collegiate cycling programs produce results. collegiate cycling was probably one of the best parts of time in college and the more money that can go into supporting that program, imo, the better. fwiw...if anyone ever wants to support their alma mater's cycling team a great way to do it is to buy a kit each year. you get a (hopefully cool looking) kit out of the deal and if they're smart they make a profit off sales to alums.

as much as i *****ed about the juniors at ksr, it's pretty damn awesome to race in a field with at least 15 juniors, even some from other countries.

globecanvas

The fairgrounds race gets a lot of juniors, which is cool. Funny about those juniors though, even the fast strong grownup looking ones -- they all attack the same way, full enthusiastic sprint with lots of arms, and not one of them can go the distance. The moves look strong and invariably flame out within a lap.