caloso

Yeah, that's what I figured too.

tetonrider

thanks for the gentle push, @globecanvas.

doesn't go in the race rig thread as it isn't fully finished and hasn't been raced. had the frame in hand on tuesday, but i've been building it in 30' increments here and there. one more 30' block on friday should do it--move a crank over from another bike, slap on a single ring, add a saddle, and wrap the bars.

in one of life's cruel ironies, i came up sick this week and may have to bag this weekend's racing. the irrational/ever-optimistic side of me is fired up to race, but the inner realist is a bit afraid of two 60' all-out sessions right now.

UmneyDurak

So 2 years ago my wired dura ace SRM cracked. At least that is what I was told when I sent it for service. They sent me a new one at discounted rate. When I talked to them and in email I specifically aske if it will be Dura Ace version and was told yes. I received it, crank said Dura Ace, I didn't pay attention to chain ring (I know my fault). Fast forward to now. Sent it for another service, and looking at invoice it said new chainring is FSA. I was perplexed. So looked at new one they put on, and old one, and yep Full Speed Ahead (FSA) on chain rings. Looked online and the spider is indeed FSA. So two years ago they sent me FSA Spider mounted to Dura Ace crank. Seriously WTF?
https://i.imgur.com/h1KG1w2.jpg

globecanvas

Give me back my bike.

Gramercy

Congrats @Fudgy on the baby news!

33 is still early 30's, right? Because my friend said it's the start of mid 30's, which made me feel really depressed.

Ygduf

I'm 35 and in my early 30's.

topflightpro

I'd go with:
30-33: early thirties
34-36: mid thirties
37-39: late thirties

globecanvas

Gunks 10000 on Sunday. 2 hours of timed competitive climbing. Not that I will be competitive, I was solidly midpack last year, and this year I have 5 more lbs and 15 fewer CTL points. Plus my Tarmac is still in pieces, so I'll be riding a 3 lb heavier bike.

I can't decide if I should bestir myself to swap on some light tubular wheels I have. It would be 20 minutes of swapping cassette, swapping brake pads, adjusting brakes, adjusting RD. It would save about a half pound, which back of the envelope is worth maybe 30 seconds over the whole event. Meh, 20 minutes of work to save 30 seconds. Anti-meh, what do I have these wheels for if I'm not going to use them for a competitive climbing event. Meh. Anti-meh. Meh. Can't decide.

himespau 

How much longer would it be to build up the tarmac and save an extra 2.5 pounds? Is that a better effort vs time savings ratio?

gsteinb

skip the silly bumpy ride and go win Jamestown on Monday

globecanvas

Not happening, I need a new RD, waiting to figure out what I want to do there.


Really not happening!

hack

Go with meh ... leave what you have on there now. Then if you do poorly (well, more poorly than expected?), you can add the wheels to the CTL and 5lbs working against you.

tetonrider

put on the tubs.

it's not purely about weight--it's about ride quality, running them at lower pressure (are the roads bad?), being just a tad safer on descents....and, well, as you said -- you've got 'em, when else are you going to run 'em if not now?

cassette swap = 1'.
pad swap = 2'.
brake adjust = 2'...let's be generous and say 5 for brakes and pads.
RD adjust.......2 minutes.



i should either finish off my bike build or be asleep instead of reading/posting. got everything done except putting on a 42T single ring, calibrating the power meter, and installing a chain/setting up shifting. i figure i can leave that to 1/2 hour before my race tomorrow.

Grumpy McTrumpy

Almost a week in rio. I've so far only heard one bossa nova.

globecanvas

16.4 lbs, not bad really, all things considered.

TMonk

nice ride GC. I'm guessing those are the tubulars.

TMonk

gsteinb

That has to weigh less than my race bike.

scheibo

Just scheduled a fitting on Tuesday as the first step replace my current bike. I'm kind of torn because I love my bike and fit, but I feel I'm riding enough now that its time to 'level up' and pimp out my steed. Thinking about dropping down a frame size, upgrading to electronic shifting and carbon wheels. I can probably sell one of my current bikes to my brother, but I'm definitely still looking at a rather large bill. *gulp*

What is the typical amount of time (years/miles) people typically get out of their bikes? And what is the general depreciation rate?

misterwaterfall

You will get worked over by people on cheap bikes and expensive bikes alike. Upgrade of you want but if yours works keep riding it. Buy a pm if you don't have one already.

Homebrew01

I told my 19 year old daughter she could think about putting some of her pizza store pay into the stock market, like an S & P index fund, and contribute every month for the next few decades, and she will come out ahead compared to the savings bank. I was pleasantly surprised that after about 30 minutes of explaining mutual funds etc, she's logged onto Fidelity, opening an account for $2,500, and setting up monthly contributions.

tetonrider

if the thought of paying the bill for 'upgrading' makes you sick, then maybe reconsider.

upgrade because it looks cool, or you just like the new toys, or because you have the spare cash...but, generally speaking, upgrades probably won't change how you do in events involving strategy (road racing).

IMO, one great reason to "upgrade" is if it motivates you to ride more. people spend lots of money in lots of ways, and even if someone who rides but does not race wants the deep carbon wheels i say go for it -- again if it motivates them to ride more.

of course it is your call, just trying to avoid you going into a cycle of spending money you don't have for a benefit (race results) that probably won't materialize. i'm inferring a few things here so may be off base.

i generally race bikes that are from late 2011 (MY 2012), and they are as good as the day i got them. i mix my riding up on a variety of bikes but some get >10,000km/year.

there are other folks who ride/race much older gear and/or ride more miles on a particular frame each year. generally speaking, few people are wearing out a frame.

as for depreciation, it's kind of like a new car: the second you pedal it, you lose 1/2 the value. the pricier the bike the bigger hit you'll take if you sell in the first year, but with a cheaper bike the value might go to/near zero, whereas a pricier bike (say an S-Works frame vs their lower carbon frames) will at least be worth something in a few years' time. it just seems to be the way the market works and how people value things (right or wrong).

caloso

My last three race bikes have been NOS frames I have found on line. 2 or 3 seasons old means a 50-70% discount.

tetonrider

hope you have an amazing day on the bike!

mike868y

lol @ feeling like you "need" to upgrade your bike.

your 19yo daughter has $2,500 saved from a pizza store job? jfc i'm a financial nightmare.