Coach my race video edit: Multicam
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Coach my race video edit: Multicam
Yeah, we're back at it. This is video from the season opener annotated with my thinking. I make an unexpected bold move midway. I'd love to get a sense of what I could have done better. Also, any advice on the finishing sprint. I thought I was in a good spot. Maybe there is some kernal you can help me with. Help me cycle-ist friends!
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You were dead when you braked in the sprint. **** happens, and you probably made the wide choice to slow down.
That said I think you could have made it through the spot. Particularly if you had your eyes up the road and saw the problem devoping quicker.
The guy on your right, sees the problem, and gets through. You appear to react just a bit slowly, and the gap closes to the point you're not comfortable going through.
So IMHO, if there's one thing to learn in that video is keep your eyes further up the road.
That said I think you could have made it through the spot. Particularly if you had your eyes up the road and saw the problem devoping quicker.
The guy on your right, sees the problem, and gets through. You appear to react just a bit slowly, and the gap closes to the point you're not comfortable going through.
So IMHO, if there's one thing to learn in that video is keep your eyes further up the road.
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Keep the camera pointed backwards at least 90% of the time. Looking at the back of people is totally boring. Think about any pro cycle race you watch, the motorcycle is in front of the cyclists and shooting them from the front. If you want to shoot the back of people, do it frame in frame with the main shot of the riders faces.
I prefer knowing what's happening in front. Are there corners coming up, how are you poistioned in the group, that sort of stuff. I don't really like looking at the snot and sweat covered faces of the not-quite-super-fit-middle-age guys (I imagine no-one likes looking at mine as well).
Ofcourse when your doing a strong pull at the front looking back is more interesting though.
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I tend to agree with you. If it's about the story of the race or spinning on the trainer, seeing forward is interesting to me. Seeing faces is cool, hence the selfie cam from time to time, but I agree with you, Dutch.
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Yeah, we're back at it. This is video from the season opener annotated with my thinking. I make an unexpected bold move midway. I'd love to get a sense of what I could have done better. Also, any advice on the finishing sprint. I thought I was in a good spot. Maybe there is some kernal you can help me with. Help me cycle-ist friends!
If you just hate me, then just say that and save yourself the time. :-)
It always seems hard to tell in these videos, but it looked like you could get a lot closer to the wheel in front of you throughout the race.
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Keep the camera pointed backwards at least 90% of the time. Looking at the back of people is totally boring. Think about any pro cycle race you watch, the motorcycle is in front of the cyclists and shooting them from the front. If you want to shoot the back of people, do it frame in frame with the main shot of the riders faces.
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Good video, the multi-cam gave a much better sense of the "real race" than most other videos.
When you got off the front at the end you probably shouldn't have settled into a TT if you wanted to win it. With ~10 miles to go you should have drilled it in your Z5 as long as possible. Winning in a late move isn't about being calm and measured, it's about trying to make sure you are just about ready to die and fall off the bike at the end. Also you didn't seem to react when the other ride (Greg?) flew past you, you had warning and looked over your shoulder right as he overtook you so you probably should have gotten up and hammered up to speed if you wanted to go with him. It hurts but the trick is to catch onto him ASAP so you waste less energy. It seems like you were more waiting for him to slow down.
When you got off the front at the end you probably shouldn't have settled into a TT if you wanted to win it. With ~10 miles to go you should have drilled it in your Z5 as long as possible. Winning in a late move isn't about being calm and measured, it's about trying to make sure you are just about ready to die and fall off the bike at the end. Also you didn't seem to react when the other ride (Greg?) flew past you, you had warning and looked over your shoulder right as he overtook you so you probably should have gotten up and hammered up to speed if you wanted to go with him. It hurts but the trick is to catch onto him ASAP so you waste less energy. It seems like you were more waiting for him to slow down.
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Good video, the multi-cam gave a much better sense of the "real race" than most other videos.
When you got off the front at the end you probably shouldn't have settled into a TT if you wanted to win it. With ~10 miles to go you should have drilled it in your Z5 as long as possible. Winning in a late move isn't about being calm and measured, it's about trying to make sure you are just about ready to die and fall off the bike at the end. Also you didn't seem to react when the other ride (Greg?) flew past you, you had warning and looked over your shoulder right as he overtook you so you probably should have gotten up and hammered up to speed if you wanted to go with him. It hurts but the trick is to catch onto him ASAP so you waste less energy. It seems like you were more waiting for him to slow down.
When you got off the front at the end you probably shouldn't have settled into a TT if you wanted to win it. With ~10 miles to go you should have drilled it in your Z5 as long as possible. Winning in a late move isn't about being calm and measured, it's about trying to make sure you are just about ready to die and fall off the bike at the end. Also you didn't seem to react when the other ride (Greg?) flew past you, you had warning and looked over your shoulder right as he overtook you so you probably should have gotten up and hammered up to speed if you wanted to go with him. It hurts but the trick is to catch onto him ASAP so you waste less energy. It seems like you were more waiting for him to slow down.
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