The Aussie thread. . . part cinq.
07-26-06, 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by 531Aussie
The low HR thing, relative to percieved effort, could be because you're doing too many hard days a week.
If you're pushing (or over) 40, Joe Friel says that 'older' guys can only handle 2 or 3 hard sessions a week. In my opnion, the hard days have gotta be hard, and the easy days REALLY easy, like 55% mac HR for less than 80mins.
If you're pushing (or over) 40, Joe Friel says that 'older' guys can only handle 2 or 3 hard sessions a week. In my opnion, the hard days have gotta be hard, and the easy days REALLY easy, like 55% mac HR for less than 80mins.
I'm not doing hard days, 6-7 hrs aerobic (70-80%) p/w and only 1 or 2 hard sessions.
07-26-06, 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by 531Aussie
eh, Hitchy's done more time-trials than me. 
I read recently that some sprinter types (fast twitch guys) just can't sustain their HR in the "90 percentages" for very long at all, no matter how hard they train. Flipper seems to be a bit a sprinter, so he might be a sub max HR time-trialer, which obviously isn't necessarily related to power output.
I read recently that some sprinter types (fast twitch guys) just can't sustain their HR in the "90 percentages" for very long at all, no matter how hard they train. Flipper seems to be a bit a sprinter, so he might be a sub max HR time-trialer, which obviously isn't necessarily related to power output.
07-26-06, 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Odin
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Yep, I'm with Eastern.
Yep, I'm with Eastern.
07-26-06, 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Hitchy
.....Lasso Guy Green's seat post & hang on for your life!
07-26-06, 06:05 AM
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eh Odin im in the same boat. In a month ill be doing my 1st 25 K TT and im sure its going to be a vomitron esq affair.
my plan was to sit around just above my lactate threshold for the 1st half then ramp it up a bit to the end to make sure i dont blow , followed by full sprint to the line? not a good strategy Hitchy?
my plan was to sit around just above my lactate threshold for the 1st half then ramp it up a bit to the end to make sure i dont blow , followed by full sprint to the line? not a good strategy Hitchy?
07-26-06, 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by HDTVKSS
eh Odin im in the same boat. In a month ill be doing my 1st 25 K TT and im sure its going to be a vomitron esq affair.
my plan was to sit around just above my lactate threshold for the 1st half then ramp it up a bit to the end to make sure i dont blow , followed by full sprint to the line? not a good strategy Hitchy?
my plan was to sit around just above my lactate threshold for the 1st half then ramp it up a bit to the end to make sure i dont blow , followed by full sprint to the line? not a good strategy Hitchy?
07-26-06, 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Odin
So... back to TTs.
How hard would you go out from the start for 25km?
Would it be ridden around LTHR? or is it short enough to pace it higher?
What sort of time would be respectable fer a C grade vet?
How hard would you go out from the start for 25km?
Would it be ridden around LTHR? or is it short enough to pace it higher?
What sort of time would be respectable fer a C grade vet?
07-26-06, 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by HDTVKSS
eh Odin im in the same boat. In a month ill be doing my 1st 25 K TT and im sure its going to be a vomitron esq affair.
... I hadn't gotten any further than LT fer the 1st half and step on it fer the last so your plan was ahead of mine.I think I'll take the trainer with me so I can do as Hitchy said and keep my HR up where I want it and stay close to the start.
Found this on cyclingnews: (Steve Hogg for a 12km TT)
0-10:00 minutes - Warm up to high E1 for 5 mins and continue till 10mins @ 100rpm.
10:00-15:00 minutes - Up heart rate gradually to high E2 @ 100rpm
15:00-20:00 minutes - Up heart rate gradually to high E3 @ 100rpm
20:00-25:00 minutes - Back to E2 @ 100rpm
25:00-30:00 minutes - Back up to high E3 at whatever cadence seems appropriate
30:00 - 40:00 minutes - Get off bike, take it out of the trainer and walk bike over to start line and do as little as possible. What I have found following this is that I can go hard out of the blocks without problems. The above assumes E1 to be 65-75% of Max HR; E2 to be 75-85% of Max HR and E3 to be 85-92% of Max HR.
10:00-15:00 minutes - Up heart rate gradually to high E2 @ 100rpm
15:00-20:00 minutes - Up heart rate gradually to high E3 @ 100rpm
20:00-25:00 minutes - Back to E2 @ 100rpm
25:00-30:00 minutes - Back up to high E3 at whatever cadence seems appropriate
30:00 - 40:00 minutes - Get off bike, take it out of the trainer and walk bike over to start line and do as little as possible. What I have found following this is that I can go hard out of the blocks without problems. The above assumes E1 to be 65-75% of Max HR; E2 to be 75-85% of Max HR and E3 to be 85-92% of Max HR.
07-26-06, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 531Aussie
You got aerobars?
I'd pull the doona up to my chin and go back to sleep.
07-26-06, 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Odin
I'll be the guinea pig fer 25km TT newbies ... I hadn't gotten any further than LT fer the 1st half and step on it fer the last so your plan was ahead of mine.
I think I'll take the trainer with me so I can do as Hitchy said and keep my HR up where I want it and stay close to the start.
Found this on cyclingnews: (Steve Hogg for a 12km TT)
In club championship/age handicaps, I have to race against Guy Green and 4 other A graders.
... I hadn't gotten any further than LT fer the 1st half and step on it fer the last so your plan was ahead of mine.I think I'll take the trainer with me so I can do as Hitchy said and keep my HR up where I want it and stay close to the start.
Found this on cyclingnews: (Steve Hogg for a 12km TT)
In club championship/age handicaps, I have to race against Guy Green and 4 other A graders.
07-26-06, 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Odin
Nope.
aww, I haven't raced in 6 weeks... getting toey so I've got to do something.
aww, I haven't raced in 6 weeks... getting toey so I've got to do something.
You haven't raced in 6 weeks, so you choose to do a TT first race back?
Better have a following car so someone can stop to pick up that lung you're gonna cough up.
07-26-06, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by MERTON
what's wrong with floyds hip?
post of the year.
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...39#post2819639
07-26-06, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 531Aussie
William Chemy started it! 
Originally Posted by Wilchemy
Awww...did not.
07-26-06, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Wilchemy
Sorry. Will try to refrain from such behaviour in future. 
But sometimes it's just too hard
But sometimes it's just too hard
07-26-06, 04:47 PM
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Back on top of GC at Altoona after a fine 2nd place in stage 3.
Pl Bib Name Team Time Behind
1 204 Menzies, Karl Health Net Pro Cycli 5:54:39 0
2 285 Pipp, Frank TargetTraining 5:54:44 @ 00:05
3 200 Henderson, Greg Health Net Pro Cycli 5:54:55 @ 00:16
Pl Bib Name Team Time Behind
1 204 Menzies, Karl Health Net Pro Cycli 5:54:39 0
2 285 Pipp, Frank TargetTraining 5:54:44 @ 00:05
3 200 Henderson, Greg Health Net Pro Cycli 5:54:55 @ 00:16
07-26-06, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by matagi
Enough of that you two, or it will be straight to the Naughty Chair!
07-26-06, 05:14 PM
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what do you think, I have Matagi's moniker/screen name/username/whatever changed
to "Mistress Matagi". I could probably dig up an avatar or two to fit the name. . .
course I might get banned for that but what the hell . . .
marty
to "Mistress Matagi". I could probably dig up an avatar or two to fit the name. . .
course I might get banned for that but what the hell . . .
marty
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07-26-06, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by climbo
Back on top of GC at Altoona after a fine 2nd place in stage 3.
Pl Bib Name Team Time Behind
1 204 Menzies, Karl Health Net Pro Cycli 5:54:39 0
2 285 Pipp, Frank TargetTraining 5:54:44 @ 00:05
3 200 Henderson, Greg Health Net Pro Cycli 5:54:55 @ 00:16
Pl Bib Name Team Time Behind
1 204 Menzies, Karl Health Net Pro Cycli 5:54:39 0
2 285 Pipp, Frank TargetTraining 5:54:44 @ 00:05
3 200 Henderson, Greg Health Net Pro Cycli 5:54:55 @ 00:16
07-26-06, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by matagi
Enough of that you two, or it will be straight to the Naughty Chair!
And as for you marty....Bad moderator! 3 x Hail Lances and then pray the Flandis for you!
07-26-06, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Wilchemy
Hey Odin, is it Steels Creek Rd that you are doing the TT on?
Won a junior TTT state title there with Blackburn in my early days....Gooldy was pulling 1000m turns coming into the finish.
lumpy course, rough road surface. tough work for young blokes.
07-26-06, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by lotek
what do you think, I have Matagi's moniker/screen name/username/whatever changed
to "Mistress Matagi". I could probably dig up an avatar or two to fit the name. . .
course I might get banned for that but what the hell . . .
marty
to "Mistress Matagi". I could probably dig up an avatar or two to fit the name. . .
course I might get banned for that but what the hell . . .
marty
07-26-06, 07:23 PM
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Bwaaaahahahaha.
Poor Koffee's earned herself a bad rap. Shame she doesn't have time drop by more often, she's good value once she gets into the swing of things. Although marty is pretty entertaining when he cuts loose.
Poor Koffee's earned herself a bad rap. Shame she doesn't have time drop by more often, she's good value once she gets into the swing of things. Although marty is pretty entertaining when he cuts loose.
07-26-06, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Wilchemy
Have they listed him as being Australian yet?
don't you mean Tasmanian?
07-26-06, 08:00 PM
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