Hanging Bike, Injure Rim?
12-18-16, 09:31 AM
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Hanging Bike, Injure Rim?
Curious whether someone has experience with pulling a rim out of true or perhaps spoke damage by handing bikes vertically on one hook.
Lots of variables i guess, but it would be convenient for me to hang a 23ish lb bike vertically from one hook, tires on wall.
Lots of variables i guess, but it would be convenient for me to hang a 23ish lb bike vertically from one hook, tires on wall.
12-18-16, 09:45 AM
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Consider that EACH spoke will pull inwards with a force of say anywhere between 4-20 times the weight of the bike.
The wheel as a whole won't notice hanging from a hook.
If the hook is sharp, you might scratch the rim.
If you're clumsy, you might possibly snag a spoke and do some damage.
Otherwise the only concern is with hydraulic brakes, forks, shocks.
With these, long term suspension in an unusual position might cause fluid or air to collect in unexpected places and influence function.
The wheel as a whole won't notice hanging from a hook.
If the hook is sharp, you might scratch the rim.
If you're clumsy, you might possibly snag a spoke and do some damage.
Otherwise the only concern is with hydraulic brakes, forks, shocks.
With these, long term suspension in an unusual position might cause fluid or air to collect in unexpected places and influence function.
12-18-16, 09:49 AM
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Millions of bikes for over a hundred years have been stored by one wheel in homes and bike shops around the world, without anything more then a cosmetic mark left on the rim from the hook's contact. This is the usual first method in at home storage that I suggest to customers.
But with the advent of carbon skinned deep section rims some say that the carbon airfoil skin can be damaged by hook hanging. Again this is with a rim design where there's a thin shaped skin of carbon producing an airfoil shape to the rim. The spokes travel through this aero skin to the actual structural rim hidden inside the skin.
BTW I have watched a coworker ride a bike while it was hanging by it's front wheel. He needed a hand in getting in the pedals but once there pedaled away for a few minutes. No wheel/rim damage or human injury. Andy
But with the advent of carbon skinned deep section rims some say that the carbon airfoil skin can be damaged by hook hanging. Again this is with a rim design where there's a thin shaped skin of carbon producing an airfoil shape to the rim. The spokes travel through this aero skin to the actual structural rim hidden inside the skin.
BTW I have watched a coworker ride a bike while it was hanging by it's front wheel. He needed a hand in getting in the pedals but once there pedaled away for a few minutes. No wheel/rim damage or human injury. Andy
12-18-16, 09:50 AM
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12-18-16, 10:11 AM
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12-18-16, 01:25 PM
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Absolutely. Hang the bike from the front wheel. Easy peasy. Always get the biggest rubber coated hooks that will fit the available space. No worries.
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Please be aware that if a bike is hung by the rear wheel, then all the blood will run into the head tube, which may result in a head tube ache. Ouch!
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12-18-16, 05:02 PM
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The only real issue is wheels with carbon fiber fairings, where the fairing is purely for aero and not structural. The fact that you have a 23lbs bike indicates that you likely have standard Al rims, which will have no issues.
12-18-16, 06:40 PM
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I get pairs of vinyl coated hooks from walmart and hang them from BOTH wheels, and yes, alternating which end is "forward" will allow you to pack them in at least as tight as the ceiling joists, no issues. If you buy "bike hooks" they'll be expensive, but the heavy duty vinyl coated hooks at wally world come in at 6 pcs for $2 or something ridiculous, so you can afford to hang them all!
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I have a piece of 2" pipe spanning the rafters in my garage and a bunch of S hooks bent out of 3/8 rebar with rubber hose covering one hook hung on it. If I didn't have so much other crap in my garage I could hang a lot of bikes.
12-18-16, 08:59 PM
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If you can drive in one big hook, you can probably drive in two smaller hooks, hang a small pulley on each, run para cord through the pulleys and hang the bike by stem and seat while also lifting more easily.
12-19-16, 07:46 AM
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Pumping up the tires by 10lbs would put far more stress on the rims than hanging the bike from a hook.
12-19-16, 08:49 AM
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My smart aleck answer was going to be "put a Band-Aid on the wheel before you hang it" but dabac beat me to it. Rubber coated hooks will prevent scratching, the only damage you might do to aluminum rims.
12-19-16, 04:42 PM
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Yes I've seen one issue hanging a bike by a single hook. My church hangs most of their donor bikes by one hook before they are distributed to the needy. After replacing a tube on a road bike recently, I noticed it was removed from the hook, on the ground with another flat front tire. Apparently when hanging the bike on the hook, the person who mounted it did not notice they had hit the air valve stem and decapitated it. Only happened once in close to 100 bikes handled, but now we are careful to avoid letting the stem near the hook.
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