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Old 07-22-17, 03:41 AM
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Deore XT shifter has no barrel adjuster

Also the bike is a Surly LHT and has bar end shifters. Does anyone know how to adult this?

I am not a technical person so simple information would be appreciated.

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Deore XT shifter has no barrel adjuster

My wife's new Surly LHT has a 10 speed Shimano XT and MicroShift BS-M10 bar end shifters. Does anyone know how to adjust this because there is no barrel adjuster and info on the web says to use the barrel on the shifter, which doesn't seem to exist!

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For the rear shifter, most rear derailleurs have a barrel adjuster on them located at the cable entry point. For front shifters, all bar ends are friction so fine cable tension adjustment isn't necessary.

If you need adjusters anyway, there are in-line adjusters that can be spliced into the cable housing. Here is a typical example:
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You probably need to add an inline adjuster, or an adjuster at the rear derailleur. IRD sells one specifically as an add on to derailleurs without the built in adjusters. I've used Ritchey or Jagwire adjusters there at the rear derailleur in the past,with success.

IRD: IRD Barrel Adjuster

Jagwire: Direct Adjusters | Jagwire

Ritchey: https://www.universalcycles.com/shop...&category=1613

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@waddo if this is a new bike from a shop, look on the downtube on the bike. The shift housing will enter a stop on the right side, which should have a barrel adjuster.
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I have an xt rd as well with no adjuster. I also have another bike with a deor rd and it does have a barrel adjuster. Anyone know why Shimano does not put the adjuster on the higher level model? it makes no sense to me.
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Originally Posted by robert schlatte
I have an xt rd as well with no adjuster. I also have another bike with a deor rd and it does have a barrel adjuster. Anyone know why Shimano does not put the adjuster on the higher level model? it makes no sense to me.
Because the high end XT ones are all using the 'Shadow' derailer design, the cable goes in straight with no 180 loop, and they're meant to be low profile to avoid hitting stuff on the trail - a barrel adjuster at this forward facing location would stick out and defeat that
plus not having one saves weight and you can just use the one on your shifter, the only people having problems with this are using some other shifter (barends, etc) instead of the matching XT shifter pod.
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Originally Posted by robert schlatte
I have an xt rd as well with no adjuster. I also have another bike with a deor rd and it does have a barrel adjuster. Anyone know why Shimano does not put the adjuster on the higher level model? it makes no sense to me.
I believe Shimano has Deore RDs both with and without barrel adjusters.
M592 does not have a barrel adjuster.
M591 does have a barrel adjuster.

I assumed its because often times a barrel adjuster on the RD is redundant due to adjusters being at the shifter for many MTB components.
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I have not looked at new LHT for several years, don't they have an adjuster at the cable stops on the downtube anymore?
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Just looked at the Surly website and the LHT indeed has down tube cable stops..John
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Originally Posted by waddo
My wife's new Surly LHT has a 10 speed Shimano XT and MicroShift BS-M10 bar end shifters. Does anyone know how to adjust this because there is no barrel adjuster and info on the web says to use the barrel on the shifter, which doesn't seem to exist!

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That's because Surly mixed stuff that isn't supposed to be mixed.

Deore XT has the barrel adjuster on the rapid fire shifter so there is not a barrel adjuster on the RD.



Originally Posted by robert schlatte
I have an xt rd as well with no adjuster. I also have another bike with a deor rd and it does have a barrel adjuster. Anyone know why Shimano does not put the adjuster on the higher level model? it makes no sense to me.
Shimano designs and tests all of their parts as *groups* and expects they will be installed and used accordingly. Mix and match at your own risk and mfgs that build crap like this are stupid. They should know better.

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Originally Posted by robert schlatte
I have an xt rd as well with no adjuster. I also have another bike with a deor rd and it does have a barrel adjuster. Anyone know why Shimano does not put the adjuster on the higher level model? it makes no sense to me.

The der.s are for mountain bikes and there is an adjuster on the shifter. They saved a few cents on each rear der..
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Originally Posted by andr0id
Shimano designs and tests all of their parts as *groups* and expects they will be installed and used accordingly. Mix and match at your own risk and mfgs that build crap like this are stupid. They should know better.
Pretty harsh.

LHTs ive seen have adjusters on the downtube cable stops.

They should know better?...they are trying to properly spec a bike to be ready for touring if it rolled out the door and do a helluva job meeting a competitive pricepoint while doing so.

Shimano(and others) dont exactly do many favors by making legitimate drop bar touring groups, so legit out the door versatile grpups are instead cobbled together.

Sure, Surly could use an M591 RD and have an adjuster on the RD in addition to the one on the downtube, but is that necessary?...2 adjusters.
And they would have a lower level RD as a result. Pretty sure they recognize most buyers see the XT and think 'good stuff' and so the cache of it is too good to pass up.

Anyways- if a legit off the shelf touring drivetrain existed for drop bar road bikes, then the need to mixnmatch wouldnt be as prevelant.
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