Chain ring spacing - road vs MTB - any difference?
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Chain ring spacing - road vs MTB - any difference?
Is there any difference between the spacing of the chainrings (triple) between a road bike and a MTB? I am trying to reuse a Sora 3300 triple crank with a 105 front deraileur driven by a MTB shifter. Will the MTB shifter position the FB correctly? It should if a road bike and MTB cranks have the same chainring spacing. If they are not the same, what is the spacing? I would measure it myself but I don't have a MTB crank to measure.
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I think they do, but even if they don't, front derailleurs use micro-indexing or friction so it should work either way.
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Originally Posted by oldokie
Is there any difference between the spacing of the chainrings (triple) between a road bike and a MTB? I am trying to reuse a Sora 3300 triple crank with a 105 front deraileur driven by a MTB shifter. Will the MTB shifter position the FB correctly? It should if a road bike and MTB cranks have the same chainring spacing. If they are not the same, what is the spacing? I would measure it myself but I don't have a MTB crank to measure.
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The chainring spacing won't be your problem. Unless you've got a friction shifter, it won't work properly. Shifters and =front= derailers aren't cross compatible between road and MTB in index mode. You'll need a MTB derailer to work with the shifter's indexing. You could still run into trouble, though. Shimano's MTB front derailers spec a minimum of 12 teeth difference in chainring size between the middle and large ring. If your triple uses a 30-42-52, the inner cage may rub the middle ring.
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Makes sense. I did not consider the different geometry between derailures of the road vs MTB. Even if chainrings have same spacing, the amount of cable pull might differ to deal with the slightly different geometry.
Looks like I will be forced to invest in a MTB crank & FD now. I intended to do that eventually anyway...just trying to delay that expense during my buildup.
Looks like I will be forced to invest in a MTB crank & FD now. I intended to do that eventually anyway...just trying to delay that expense during my buildup.
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Originally Posted by oldokie
Makes sense. I did not consider the different geometry between derailures of the road vs MTB. Even if chainrings have same spacing, the amount of cable pull might differ to deal with the slightly different geometry.
Looks like I will be forced to invest in a MTB crank & FD now. I intended to do that eventually anyway...just trying to delay that expense during my buildup.
Looks like I will be forced to invest in a MTB crank & FD now. I intended to do that eventually anyway...just trying to delay that expense during my buildup.
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There is a BIG difference in the cable pull for MT vs Road Derailleurs. I just finished switching from bar-end shifters to brifters on my commuter. Step 1 was to install a Tiagra FD. The reduced amount of lever throw = cable pull to shift was amazing. You might get away with it on a double. Not on a triple. You would never be able to properly hit the middle chainring. BTW the chainring spacing is the same.
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What is your road bike's center to center chainring spacing? This is of interest for a table that is in preparation. If you know the front cable pull also so much the better. Thanks. Honestron
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You are correct that friction shifters will work with nearly anything.
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You can get a MTB shifter to work with a road FD acceptably but not perfectly, but it does take a bit of skill. Set the cable pull up so that the FD is lined up with the middle ring when the shifter is in position 2. Then set the position of the FD for the inner ring by using the inner limit screw (the shifter will release way more cable than needed, so the cable will go very slack when in this position, but that should not matter). Then set the outer limit screw of the FD to control the position for the big chainring. The shifter is going to try to pull too much cable to shift beyond this position, but hopefully you can find a place where the shifter clicks into the 3rd position and the FD is up against it's limit screw without requiring too much force in the shifter as you push against the limit screw - you may have to release a bit more cable to get this to work, which may put the FD a little too far inboard when in the 2nd position, but this is why I said it will probably not be perfect.
Again, this is not something that I'd recommend for someone who is not familiar with adjusting a front derailleur, it is something for the advanced class. However, I have had success once or twice and got the combination working reasonably well. Using a matching shifter and front derailleur is always preferable, though.
Again, this is not something that I'd recommend for someone who is not familiar with adjusting a front derailleur, it is something for the advanced class. However, I have had success once or twice and got the combination working reasonably well. Using a matching shifter and front derailleur is always preferable, though.