Road Bicycle Shoes / Pedals
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For your first set of clipless pedals I suggest a combination of SPD mountain bike shoes and pedals. They are simply easier to adapt to with the double sided pedals and easier to walk in and are less likely to damage certain types of flooring. There are other clipless designs with their own pluses and minuses compared to the original SPD design, but that can be a subject for later.
Unless you learn and practice using a retention pedal design there's no advantage to having them.
Brad
For your first set of clipless pedals I suggest a combination of SPD mountain bike shoes and pedals. They are simply easier to adapt to with the double sided pedals and easier to walk in and are less likely to damage certain types of flooring. There are other clipless designs with their own pluses and minuses compared to the original SPD design, but that can be a subject for later.
Unless you learn and practice using a retention pedal design there's no advantage to having them.
Brad
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You're no faster with clipless if you use them the same way as flat pedals. I recently switched to clipless and I can guarantee that I'm definitely faster with them. But, it does require the technique. If you pedal "mindlessly," as if you were in regular shoes, of course they don't make a difference (besides not having your feet slip). But the point is, with clipless you can pull up, push forward, press down, and pull back. With flat you can only press down (unless I'm missing something). This means you can exert less force for more of the rotation and as a result go faster than with flats while still staying in the aerobic range of exercise.
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Fastening the feet to the pedals is a rather long-lived fad. Riders started using toe clips before the turn of the last century. Riders wore shoes with "cleats" that prevented the shoe from being withdrawn from the toe clip without first reaching down and loosening the toe strap. Most more casual clip users didn't use cleated shoes because of the hassle and increased propensity for falling over when stopping. Clipless were invented before 1900 too, but didn't replace toe clips and cleated shoes until the mid 1980s.
Here's a pictorial history of toe clips, straps,cleats, etc: https://www.speedplay.com/index.cfm?f...lmuseum.straps
Here's a pictorial history of toe clips, straps,cleats, etc: https://www.speedplay.com/index.cfm?f...lmuseum.straps
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As you can see, opinions are all over the place. Everybody has their own preference and once you try some you will have your own.
If you want even more fun, start a thread asking opinions about hydration packs!
If you want even more fun, start a thread asking opinions about hydration packs!
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Yes there are a few dissenters but the vast majority of serious riders use clipless pedals nearly all the time. The make and model of pedals and shoes are highly personal choices but the clipless concept is nearly universally accepted. Garhr is a member of a small subset.
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Yes there are a few dissenters but the vast majority of serious riders use clipless pedals nearly all the time. The make and model of pedals and shoes are highly personal choices but the ting, concept is nearly universally accepted. Garhr is a member of a small subset.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17545890
https://wattagetraining.com/files/JMa...gTechnique.pdf
https://www.thieme-connect.com/ejour...s-2008-1038374
Interesting stuff and it is telling me that riding clipped and pulling up during pedaling doesn't necessarily confer the overall efficiency that many seem to think it does. If one prefers to ride clipped in, that's fine but those of us that ride on platform pedals don't necessarily need to feel like second class citizens. There are as many arguments for riding on platforms as not. Not that I really expect to change any minds. I'll never ride clipped in on my commute. I like riding in my running shoes or Tevas too much.
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the reducing the weight of your other leg, resisting the upstroke , like picking up your foot
inorder to place it ahead of you, walking, is a more realistic assumption,
than actually pulling up, with much force.
inorder to place it ahead of you, walking, is a more realistic assumption,
than actually pulling up, with much force.
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It is telling me that riding clipped and pulling up during pedaling doesn't necessarily confer the overall efficiency that many seem to think it does. If one prefers to ride clipped in, that's fine but those of us that ride on platform pedals don't necessarily need to feel like second class citizens.
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Pulling up is something that some people do , and some people don't. I never have, even with clipless, as it never made any sense to. I pedal like I'm scraping dirt off my shoes
I prefer the feel of smooth pedal movement. I don't ride for speed , I ride becasue I love the feel of riding.
We all have at one time, and often continue to think like "sheep". Follow the perceived leader. Perception is everything. Just becasue X works for so and so, does not mean it's good for anyone else. But one may do it anyways as they value and trust the "other" , more than in themsleves. Trust in your Self. There is only one to please ... and "I" am it This doesn't mean up your nose at others, it means the only one TO trust in is ultimatley within yourself.
For example, I learned that the old myth about pedalling with your mid foot as somehow "wrong" ... was just that. It's actually very efficient. Yep, I laughed at such people pedalling like this at one time. Well, I was the goof ! All I can say is try it for fun at first, you just may like it... maybe not !
I prefer the feel of smooth pedal movement. I don't ride for speed , I ride becasue I love the feel of riding.
We all have at one time, and often continue to think like "sheep". Follow the perceived leader. Perception is everything. Just becasue X works for so and so, does not mean it's good for anyone else. But one may do it anyways as they value and trust the "other" , more than in themsleves. Trust in your Self. There is only one to please ... and "I" am it This doesn't mean up your nose at others, it means the only one TO trust in is ultimatley within yourself.
For example, I learned that the old myth about pedalling with your mid foot as somehow "wrong" ... was just that. It's actually very efficient. Yep, I laughed at such people pedalling like this at one time. Well, I was the goof ! All I can say is try it for fun at first, you just may like it... maybe not !
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We all have at one time, and often continue to think like "sheep". Follow the perceived leader. Perception is everything. Just becasue X works for so and so, does not mean it's good for anyone else. But one may do it anyways as they value and trust the "other" , more than in themsleves. Trust in your Self. There is only one to please ... and "I" am it This doesn't mean up your nose at others, it means the only one TO trust in is ultimatley within yourself.
For example, I learned that the old myth about pedalling with your mid foot as somehow "wrong" ... was just that. It's actually very efficient. Yep, I laughed at such people pedalling like this at one time. Well, I was the goof ! All I can say is try it for fun at first, you just may like it... maybe not !
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BTW Hillrider , I am far from the "small subset" for not using clipless pedals. If one took a count of every bicycle rider on the planet, of all ages and countries, one will find that by far most people do not use clipless pedals Most would not even know what they were, let alone want them or find them of any use at all.
It is the clipless pedals and shoes that are in themselves, the "small subset". Comparitvely few people ride a bike for competition or even "fitness" worldwide.
It is the clipless pedals and shoes that are in themselves, the "small subset". Comparitvely few people ride a bike for competition or even "fitness" worldwide.
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BTW Hillrider , I am far from the "small subset" for not using clipless pedals. If one took a count of every bicycle rider on the planet, of all ages and countries, one will find that by far most people do not use clipless pedals Most would not even know what they were, let alone want them or find them of any use at all.
It is the clipless pedals and shoes that are in themselves, the "small subset". Comparitvely few people ride a bike for competition or even "fitness" worldwide.
It is the clipless pedals and shoes that are in themselves, the "small subset". Comparitvely few people ride a bike for competition or even "fitness" worldwide.
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I have a pair of Northwave Revolution shoes in Blue and Silver size 8.5 that I'll send you for postage. I bought them on closeout although I wear a size 9. Thought they would work in the store but I realized they would not on the only ride I took in them. Still in the box.
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Different pedals require different cleats, if you are referring to the cleats for clipless pedals. I ride Speedplay X's and pretty much use up the cleats before replacing them. I don't think you'd find an old pair of them useful.
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