dgarcia30

I inherited two vintage road bikes (Bianchi? and a Giepiemme Gardin) from a great uncle who was an avid Italian rider/racer in his day and trying to figure out the story, age and value behind these bikes. Hopefully some of the expert enthusiasts on BikeForums.net can help me understand what I've got on my hands.

Here's a link to the pictures of both bikes: https://picasaweb.google.com/1128605...CMf9_q_w3PeuOw

The first bike I'm told is a VERY OLD Bianchi (blue) but I don't see any markings anywhere to indicate that. Yes, the crank and stem say Bianchi. Other than that, where the back gears lock into the frame has imprinted "BREV CAMPOGNOLO". The only other frame impressions are what appear to be a serial number at the top of the frame where the seat post goes in, and that reads "B2060C8". It has campy locks, shifters and derailleur (rear reads "CAMPAGNOLO GRAN SPORT") but don't know the versions/ages. Regarding bike age, it's really unknown but figure anywhere from 30-50 years old which is why I don't know if this can be of any great value beyond a sentimental piece. Brakes appear to be Universal Model 51. Wheel hubs are Bianchi but not sure about the rims (they are tubular.)

The second bike is a green Gipiemme Gardin with campy rigs except for brakes that have Modolo levers and Modolo Speedy brakes (I learned Gardin was a maker popular in Canada, which is where my great uncle lived so makes sense that he would have this make.) Had tubular rims on it (which are not on the bike but I still have and are Serie Professional Hd 120 and Campy hubs) but I swapped them out for more functional rims after nearly killing myself when I first got the bike and took a hard turn only to discover that tubular rims even existed and that you shouldn't bank on them after 20 years of dried glue.

Between the pics in the link and the description above, what do you guys think of the bikes? What type of value would be associated with these?

Wish I had my great uncle to ask the questions but hope the forum can help enlighten me. Thank you in advance for taking the time to review and helping me learn a bit more about the bikes.

Best,
-David

rhm

The Bianchi has been repainted, which is kinda too bad. It appears to me to be mostly original early 1960's. Front derailleur is not original. A repaint like this makes the bike more durable, more rideable, and perhaps more presentable-- but less valuable and, to guys like us, somewhat less interesting. This forum has some Bianchi experts --I'm not one of them-- and when you hear from them you will be much enlightened.

JunkYardBike

The Bianchi is a repainted Specialissima frame, probably from the 60's. Parts are probably older than the frame. A complete, original Specialissima could go for a couple thousand, but yours is not original and is repainted, so figure considerably less. If you're looking to sell, consider parting it out.

The Gardin is just a rung or two below top-of-the-line. Figure $300-$400 maybe? That's the potential market value, but I think it's much nicer than that number indicates.

EDIT: Hmm..maybe yours is a '50s model with mostly original components. Makes it more valuable: https://campagnolodelta.blogspot.com/...2-bianchi.html

EDIT too: ...or what rhm said.

randyjawa 

There is just no way to estimate value of a vintage road bicycle. I have sold Gardin bicycles for between $150.00 and $1500.00. Bianchi prices range from $150.00 to $600+. Value depends on quality level, condition, size and even location, just to name a few influencing variables.

About the best you can do is take a look through Vintage Bicycle Value. Apply what you learn there and, perhaps, the OP will better understand that he/she has two bikes, a valuable old one and a not so valuable newer one.

My opinion, of course.

JunkYardBike

Good advice. There's no indication dgarcia30 intends to sell, so your summation is a good one. The Bianchi is a collectible bike that's been devalued by the repaint, but I'd still consider it valuable. The Gardin is functionally more valuable than the market value, I'd guess.

If they are bound for market: I caught a license plate in one of the photos, so I call dibs!

cb400bill

Pics for posterity.

umpire54

Waking up an old thread, the bike is more like 1950's Bianchi. The components look to be from a Campione del Mondo which started production in 1953 the year Coppi won on a Bianchi bike similar to this one. The front dr is not correct, the rear is most likely, but if it has a 3-5mm (earlier 50's)spring cover or 8 mm I cannot tell, which would narrow down the dating of it. The front lug should be chrome matching the top part of the head set, the seat lug like could also be chrome under the paint. The fork shoulders should be chrome as well, these items were painted over. I'd say it is between a 1953-57 model, just painted wrong color, some chrome painted over, and wrong front dr. The 51 universal brakes, the early Bianchi on the handlebar stem, the steel Bianchi hubs, make me say 1953-1956 ish. Real proof of the pudding will be the rd spring cover size to date it.

He has open C & G on the Campy components, making iit the third generation of Campy GS components, which were updates in 56 or 57, with the Campy C & G closing. Umbrella tube pump holder is desirable, issues on the Campione del Mondo models. Bianchi 3-B chainring, dark blue seat stay nut, etc, stopped being made for Bianchi's by 1960 I believe, when in early 59' to 60 the Specialissima came out. I'm done!

Wait, this bike, redone in right color, new decals, professional restoration, $1200-2000 maybe a bit more, depending on who was buying. Lots of guys would want this bike, LOTS of them!