Bianchigirll 

I didn't say it wasn't a Bianchi, I just said it was a lowend one. At $7 it might make an OK project but only if you have all the parts in hand. If you have to buy everything for it you can doo better. Look for frames that are least 3 tubes all Chromoly. All Chromoly is better but I had a three tube ChroMo with mangalloy stays that was a great rider.

Angyalpor

Thanks!
I wrote an e-mail to the Bianchi company one week back, but they not answer to me yet.
The frame number is clear, so I hope they still have a database from the old frames, or something...
I wait with the repaint, because this color cannot be power coated, and the "classic" paint is not cheap... Cleaning to bare metal(sanding), repair the issues, paint with base paint, and then Celeste with pearl effect... Costs about 150$.
So I need to think on it.
And the decals are not problem, I can make them (I worked as a computer artist).
So, thanks for your help, and I wait for your reply.

Andras

exxongraftek

Definitely a low-end frame as one of the decals states it was equipped with Positron shifters. Ick.

Angyalpor

Update: I got answer from the Bianchi factory, they ask me to send a few pictures from the bike, of course, I sent a few for them. That was happened at okt.27. , no reply since then.

Angyalpor

Some kind of a fiesta must be there...

Angyalpor

A big one...

Angyalpor

Hello!

Your friend still got no idea about the bike?
The factory ask me, to send the pictures, but they aren't answer...
And slowly I need to decide, rebuild it, or just repaint and use...

Angyalpor

Still nothing news, bikeoholics? :S

Angyalpor

One small step: looks like, a Bianchi NTH 106, but not sure yet

Angyalpor

After I get out the rear wheel, I saw this.




Happy Holidays to everyone!

thmscal

Hi, I have the same question as the posts above. Could you help identify a Bianchi? It was given to me by a family friend years ago. The frame's a bit large for me so I would like to clean it up and sell it. Just let me know if there are other pictures that would be more helpful in identifying it. Thanks!

FastJake

I can't help you identify the bike but you're better off posting a new thread than adding on to an old one like this.

Bianchigirll 

This poor bike needs more than a little cleaning, it needs a good deep professional overhaul.

The Genius tubing would date this to around '93/94ish but the Veloce group seems out of place on this frame. It doesn't really have a model name but be referred to as Genius Veloce.

thmscal

Thank you! In terms of an overhaul, what would you do to the bike before selling it, from what you can see?

conking94

Heyguys, just got my hands on this. i can tell its been through a totalrefurb, however, to what standard do you guys think this refurb is?and what value would you place on the bike? ... just a little infoabout the bike to see if it matches with the campione del mondo 72-74it claims to be. The seta post is 26mm (which i find unusual), theidentification/ serial number to the front is 1g12905. Howeverthe decals and aesthetics claim to be a cmapione del mondo, thedescription of sale says the bike was a 70s steel bianchi record840. can anyone help and shed some light on what i have purchased?and potentially a valuation? Thanks guys!

Bianchigirll 

First disclaimer.... This frame looks like it is in Europe somewhere and I have little knowledge of European Bianchis as well as limited knowledge of '70s models.

In general however just because a frame has a decal on with the World Championship stripes and dates it should not be assumed that decal has anything to do with the year or model of bike. After Bianchi won the world (Road) championship in '86 all '87/8/9 and some '90 bike had a huge Campione Del Mondo decal proclaiming the event but since they were on all bikes for the basic entry level to the top of the line bikes.

The 26.0 seatpost does seem odd for a top of the line frame. The dropouts look short to me for an early '70s frame. If this was a top of the line Bianchi I would expect to see a cartouche of some type on the frame, a "B" on the stay caps, B or Bianchi on the crown etc. I am not sure about the dates they were made 'standard' but again on top shelf model I would expect shifter braze-ons.

It looks like a very nice paint job. As to what level? Only the repainter knows the quality level of the work. Personally I would consider this a "very nicely repainted unknown frame"


Caveat Emptor is the rule of the day why buying any "refurbished" (ie repainted bike) that the seller can't prove what it is.

2sq4x5

I need you help identifying this Bianchi.

It has Campagnolo shifters, hubs, Derailleurs, Crank-set, sprockets, Modolo Speedy brakes.

Here are some pictures. Thank you in advanced.

tronnyjenkins 

All due respect, but you'll get better results if you post your own thread.
Also, in that modified state, I'd say $250-300. Maybe.

jyl

This is a weird thread.

ridelikeaturtle

Maybe so, but it's also quite useful . Instead of starting another, I think I'll just add to this one...

I picked up this Bianchi Sprint 76, and would love to know more about it.

The number stamped into the headtube is: CB04683
Front brakes are "Weinmann Type 500", and the rear are Universal.
Shifters, front & rear derailleurs are all Simplex.
I don't see any indication of what the hubs are.
TTT stem
STM brakes

My *plan* is to put modern running gear on it, as I've come across some decent Campy Chorus 10-speed stuff secondhand that was unexpectedly nicer than the Veloce 9-speed on my other bike (in the background); I'll take the 9-speed Veloce and put it onto this frame to create a nice little "neo retro" setup for getting around in the city - with some minor modifications, of course.

I'm learning a lot from this forum on what I'll need to do, it's extremely helpful! An adapter claw for the rear derailleur, downtube cable stops, etc.

Any info (Bianchigirl?) on what I've got here (rough year, value, etc) is much appreciated.

ridelikeaturtle

... a few more photos...

juvela

Hello ridelikeaturtle,

Welcome to the forum!

This machine is a rock bottom model produced by Chiorda. Frame constructed with the Agrati "AM" lugset and bulge-formed head. Note the plate style chainstay bridge.

If you would like to go through it and do a cleaning and overhaul that would be fine. It does not merit upgrading. Wait for a much better frame to mount your Chorus group on.

ridelikeaturtle

Oh no, I totally agree, and the Chorus 10-speed gear I've got is going onto the M Alloy Pro in the background, not this thing! Leftover Veloce stuff would be going onto this; and if I come across a nicer frame later, maybe I'll do some more swapping.

Thanks for that info, I'd never have figured out "Chiorda" except by accident. Score another for bikeforums.net!

Just taking it down now, and the BB needs replacement (something's bent...) if it's going on the road, as do the tyres. I picked up a secondhand Campy Khamsin wheelset for cheap, so again that'll go on it nicely.

Would I be able to sell on the tubular wheels for anything at all? Or the shifters, derailleurs & brakes? They're not worth anything to me, but they might have value to someone.

juvela

Hello again ridelikeaturtle,

Thanks very much for the clarification.

Chiorda is/was Italy's largest manufacturer of bicycles as far a raw numbers go.

Most of their productive capacity seems to have gone into contract builds/private labeling.

They did sponsor a professional race team under the Chiorda name at one time.

At some point they were absorbed into Bianchi, but Bianchi has changed hands two or three times since then.

The bent bottom bracket spindle is OFMEGA/Of.Me.Ga.; its centre section may be marked OMG. The same firm produced the bicycle's headset.

Have no knowledge of the used parts market in Eire; perhaps others may be able to comment...

One negative point about the bicycle's wheels is that the hubs are of a five-piece design. With this type of consruction the drive side flange of the rear hub often works loose with use and begins to wobble a bit.

With respect to dating, I suspect the bicycle's top tube transfer says it.

As regards mounting your Veloce bits onto this frame some adapting would be necessary at the minimum. For example the frame's rear dropouts are probably 120mm apart. Brakes from the Veloce group may not have adequate reach to work on this frame. The incasso mounting of the Veloce brakes is something this frame is not set up for. Frame is set up for use of a front mech with covered cable. To use a bare cable front mech you would need to add a bottom bracket cable tunnel for this type of arrangement.

If it were mine I would keep it configured as it is to either use or to sell. A better fit for your extra parts can be found.

ridelikeaturtle

For the front derailleur, I was going to simply run the cable housing beneath the BB, and run the bare cable up to the derailleur. (I saw that on another thread on the forum.) We'll see how well that works. The brakes look like they'll work, but only just. I'll need to do some modification to mount them, but I think I can put something together.