What did I purchase?
10-19-16, 07:32 PM
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What did I purchase?
I recently purchased this bike that is unlabeled, it hasn't arrived yet so these are the only pictures I have to work with.
Being a polished bike with Dura Ace and 600 bits, I figured it was a better than average bike.
Any idea what it is?
Dura Ace head set
Dura Ace brake calipers
Shimano 600 front derailleur and shifters
Suntour Superbe Tech rear derailler
Nitro stem
Being a polished bike with Dura Ace and 600 bits, I figured it was a better than average bike.
Any idea what it is?
Dura Ace head set
Dura Ace brake calipers
Shimano 600 front derailleur and shifters
Suntour Superbe Tech rear derailler
Nitro stem
10-19-16, 07:52 PM
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Looks like Campagnolo Tippo hubs nice but sub-par workmanship on the frame, look at the rear brake bridge and the gap in the connection to the right rear drop out. I cannot tell is it is chromed or partially chromes and stripped and polished.
Also, that is a track stem. I'd say its worth $300+
Also, that is a track stem. I'd say its worth $300+
10-25-16, 07:25 PM
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I received the bike today, the only numbers on the bike is what looks like a SS number hand etched on the bottom bracket. The bike appears to have had some chrome on the rear dropouts, fork ends, and maybe the head tube may have been chrome and the rest was originally painted.
Shimano rear dropouts
Shimano 600 shifters
Shimano 600 crank set (53/39)
Shimano 600 front derailleur
Shimano 600 brake levers
Shimano BB 1.37x24T
Dura Ace brake calipers
Dura Ace head set
Sun tour Superbe Tech rear derailleur
Polished 27" Mavic wheels
Campagnolo hubs
13/15/18/21/24 5spd rear freewheel
SR Royal seat post
Nitto 100 stem
Kyokuto pro ace pedals
Selle San Marco Laser saddle
The bike looks like it was set up to be fast; and has a lot of Asian parts.
Any Idea on the make?
Shimano rear dropouts
Shimano 600 shifters
Shimano 600 crank set (53/39)
Shimano 600 front derailleur
Shimano 600 brake levers
Shimano BB 1.37x24T
Dura Ace brake calipers
Dura Ace head set
Sun tour Superbe Tech rear derailleur
Polished 27" Mavic wheels
Campagnolo hubs
13/15/18/21/24 5spd rear freewheel
SR Royal seat post
Nitto 100 stem
Kyokuto pro ace pedals
Selle San Marco Laser saddle
The bike looks like it was set up to be fast; and has a lot of Asian parts.
Any Idea on the make?
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10-25-16, 07:47 PM
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check to see if there is a serial number anywhere on the frame, if not it may be a custom built frame by a person rather than a company and as such left any possible means to identify it off. It may have had decals at one time but with no, or just a couple of digits or letters, it would almost have to be custom. It kind of looks like a one of kind build due to the sloppy bridge work, but maybe not.
10-25-16, 08:02 PM
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10-25-16, 08:11 PM
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check to see if there is a serial number anywhere on the frame, if not it may be a custom built frame by a person rather than a company and as such left any possible means to identify it off. It may have had decals at one time but with no, or just a couple of digits or letters, it would almost have to be custom. It kind of looks like a one of kind build due to the sloppy bridge work, but maybe not.
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I looked at the new pics and I think it was a home builder, the brazing wasn't done all the great, left some of the brazing material on the frame then chromed over it. But, it's still a nice looking bike, and only someone who was looking at the frame real close like those photos would detect the issues assuming they knew what they were looking at. So I wouldn't be worried about the bike, it looks fantastic, it's obviously held up to years of riding without coming apart, so I think you have a good bike and an unusual homemade one that very very few people have.
As a note, there is no way for me to be certain that it was homemade bike, but if I was too guess due to the lack of any model numbers stamped anywhere that more than likely it is homemade, or perhaps custom made for a particular person, but those are usually done by more experience brazzers than what is evidenced on the frame, so I lean towards a home builder.
As a note, there is no way for me to be certain that it was homemade bike, but if I was too guess due to the lack of any model numbers stamped anywhere that more than likely it is homemade, or perhaps custom made for a particular person, but those are usually done by more experience brazzers than what is evidenced on the frame, so I lean towards a home builder.
11-03-16, 08:00 PM
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I took the bike out on a short 10 mi ride, the Suntour Superbe RD shifts silky smooth. I'm very impressed with how well this bike rides.
11-03-16, 10:25 PM
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That stem handlebar.... killing it for me. Otherwise a stunning bike!
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I have a bike with Suntour Superbe components with over 160,000 miles on the components (and frame too), those components work as smooth and fast as they did from day one! The secret to keeping them running long is keeping the stuff clean and lubed. Of the all Japanese companies that made components the best company lost.
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I found this vintage stem in my parts bin; is it better?
Rewrapping the leather tape proved to be a PITA to get smooth; I made sure to route the brake cables over the bars so no kittens were injured.
https://goo.gl/photos/kPxH5zwZcfP75ba28
Rewrapping the leather tape proved to be a PITA to get smooth; I made sure to route the brake cables over the bars so no kittens were injured.
https://goo.gl/photos/kPxH5zwZcfP75ba28
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That stem is much shorter, and a lot older. At 25 lbs, it's not a terribly light bike, more of a mid-weight. I'm surprised that it doesn't have a cable guide either under or over the bottom bracket. The chrome looks like it was added later. Nice 600 "arabesque" crankset there. Those hubs are definitely NOT Campagnolo-the high-flange Campy hubs did NOT have round holes. Are those Normandy hubs? Ugh, I hated those! Why did he put the cheapest tires available on those rims? Is it a 27"? You really need some better rubber!
All in all, you look like you found a middle-weight frame with decent lugwork that had chrome added later, a mishmash of more expensive components thrown on it. Probably was a "clean out the basement" build. If you paid less than $350, you probably came out ahead.
All in all, you look like you found a middle-weight frame with decent lugwork that had chrome added later, a mishmash of more expensive components thrown on it. Probably was a "clean out the basement" build. If you paid less than $350, you probably came out ahead.
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The uber drop on the stem seems to indicate it's a track stem.
Many other stems (like the Cinelli 1A) available out there will work better for the road.....
Many other stems (like the Cinelli 1A) available out there will work better for the road.....
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That stem is much shorter, and a lot older. At 25 lbs, it's not a terribly light bike, more of a mid-weight. I'm surprised that it doesn't have a cable guide either under or over the bottom bracket. The chrome looks like it was added later. Nice 600 "arabesque" crankset there. Those hubs are definitely NOT Campagnolo-the high-flange Campy hubs did NOT have round holes. Are those Normandy hubs? Ugh, I hated those! Why did he put the cheapest tires available on those rims? Is it a 27"? You really need some better rubber!
All in all, you look like you found a middle-weight frame with decent lugwork that had chrome added later, a mishmash of more expensive components thrown on it. Probably was a "clean out the basement" build. If you paid less than $350, you probably came out ahead.
All in all, you look like you found a middle-weight frame with decent lugwork that had chrome added later, a mishmash of more expensive components thrown on it. Probably was a "clean out the basement" build. If you paid less than $350, you probably came out ahead.
This is another set of wheels I have:
The chrome on the fork crown and drop out area, the frame lugs, and the rear dropouts (with 6 inches of seat and chain stays) all appear to original old chrome; the remainder of the bike is old chrome that was once under paint.
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