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Old 06-10-23, 03:11 PM
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Repair stand i.d.

I’ve obtained a Vise-Cycle bench mount repair stand. I can’t find anything on it. It’s aluminum with a vise grip style clamping mechanism. Anybody know anything about it.






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I need a top view. Does that handle with the plastic end on it serve to tighten the grip?
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Originally Posted by unterhausen
I need a top view. Does that handle with the plastic end on it serve to tighten the grip?
I think it might a rotation bar perhaps?
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Originally Posted by unterhausen
I need a top view. Does that handle with the plastic end on it serve to tighten the grip?
The handle with the plastic end is for rotation of the clamp.


Here’s an end on view



And the clamping mechanism that is similar to Vise Grips


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Looks like nice quality. I'm not familiar with the brand. That vice grip style clamp does look like it would impart significant force so carbon or oversized aluminum frames would be best not clamped directly to it.
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Originally Posted by masi61
Looks like nice quality. I'm not familiar with the brand. That vice grip style clamp does look like it would impart significant force so carbon or oversized aluminum frames would be best not clamped directly to it.
agreed. it clamps over center like the older Park clamp, careful with thin tube frames, other than that it looks like a nice item.

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The arm and body are sand castings, heavily overbuilt. The zinc on steel is plated, really well I might add. (food grade?)
The wire eyelet is a clue too. It looks to be the culmination of a work in progress, with the lettering in the handle looking hastily added.
The tiny hollow roll pins belay the arms they are attached to, like a fuse in a circuit. almost like an oops.
Welds are industrial ed same as what every kid learned, but perfected. Almost machine perfect.
The Vice Cycle name would have been a copyright violation considering the function so if it was sent as an invention idea, the name would have been changed.
I think maybe you have an inventor's prototype.

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Originally Posted by Schweinhund
The arm and body are sand castings, heavily overbuilt. The zinc on steel is plated, really well I might add. (food grade?)
The wire eyelet is a clue too. It looks to be the culmination of a work in progress, with the lettering in the handle looking hastily added.
The tiny hollow roll pins belay the arms they are attached to, like a fuse in a circuit. almost like an oops.
Welds are industrial ed same as what every kid learned, but perfected. Almost machine perfect.
The Vice Cycle name would have been a copyright violation considering the function so if it was sent as an invention idea, the name would have been changed.
I think maybe you have an inventor's prototype.
Uhmmmm.... "food grade" zinc?? Are you thinking of pewter?? But there's no zinc in that stuff......
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Originally Posted by Chombi1
Uhmmmm.... "food grade" zinc?? Are you thinking of pewter?? But there's no zinc in that stuff......
Um, no. Food grade zinc plating.
Do yo know what pewter is?
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Originally Posted by Schweinhund
Um, no. Food grade zinc plating.
Do yo know what pewter is?
Pewter is an alloy mostly made out of tin, copper and antimony..... but no zinc....

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Originally Posted by Chombi1
Pewter is an alloy mostly made out of tin, copper and antimony..... but no zinc....
Lead is aprominent ingredient as well. Well known historical data provides why you wouldn't want to plate something with pewter.
But, See how bright that steel is? Think it was made yesterday? Pewter would have dulled significantly, as lead and silver do.
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Originally Posted by Schweinhund
Lead is aprominent ingredient as well. Well known historical data provides why you wouldn't want to plate something with pewter.
But, See how bright that steel is? Think it was made yesterday? Pewter would have dulled significantly, as lead and silver do.
it's just tarnished zinc usually looks very similar to tarnished pewter.....
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Nice peace pretty sure it is from the late Cali cycle works.









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Looks like an EVT knockoff to.me.
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Made in USA but has a Soviet vibe IMO.
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Originally Posted by Feldman
Looks like an EVT knockoff to.me.
not seeing any similarity to EVT myself.

I agree it looks like someone’s prototype.
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Originally Posted by Feldman
Looks like an EVT knockoff to.me.
I’m reasonable certain that this clamp predates by many decades. EVT wasn’t established until 1999. This clamp probably dates from the 50s or 60s. It likely predates Park Tool’s clamp by a decade or so.


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The arm and body are sand castings, heavily overbuilt. The zinc on steel is plated, really well I might add. (food grade?)
The wire eyelet is a clue too. It looks to be the culmination of a work in progress, with the lettering in the handle looking hastily added.
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Welds are industrial ed same as what every kid learned, but perfected. Almost machine perfect.
The Vice Cycle name would have been a copyright violation considering the function so if it was sent as an invention idea, the name would have been changed.
I think maybe you have an inventor's prototype.
It looks too polished to be a prototype. Why go through the hassle of casting a name on the clamp handle if it’s a prototype. It’s rough by today’s standards but not by 50s or 60s standards.
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Originally Posted by zukahn1
Nice peace pretty sure it is from the late Cali cycle works.
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I’m not familiar with that company. A Google search shows lots of motorcycle parts but nothing bicycle related.
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Originally Posted by masi61
Looks like nice quality. I'm not familiar with the brand. That vice grip style clamp does look like it would impart significant force so carbon or oversized aluminum frames would be best not clamped directly to it.

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agreed. it clamps over center like the older Park clamp, careful with thin tube frames, other than that it looks like a nice item.

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The clamp works more like the current Park professional grade linkage clamp than the spring clamp that came on my PRS-6 stand. I’ve upgraded that clamp to a linkage clamp several years ago. Other than my tandem, I don’t clamp to the frame on any bike anyway. I always clamp to the seatpost. With the tandem, I’m very careful about clamping the frame
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Originally Posted by cyccommute
I’m reasonable certain that this clamp predates by many decades. EVT wasn’t established until 1999. This clamp probably dates from the 50s or 60s. It likely predates Park Tool’s clamp by a decade or so.




It looks too polished to be a prototype. Why go through the hassle of casting a name on the clamp handle if it’s a prototype. It’s rough by today’s standards but not by 50s or 60s standards.
In high school, in Modesto california, we did sand casting. Machine shop, it was part of the Industrial Ed Dept. The middle 1970's is the period.
We had lathes, milling machines, a smelter, welders a 50 ton press (a 1962 BSA?) Whatever my machine shop teacher could talk Gallo (He being a former machinist for Gallo Winery) into donating to us.
We made all kinds of stuff.
That particular item, with some simple equipment would be easy.
I knew some old farts back then, they called themselves tinkerers, but they were nothing short of inventers.
About any of them could have made that.
My former partner's dad was an inventor and built things.
The guy made stuff like this that was interesting and thoughtful.
That's either made by a company that did a very short run maybe 10 or 15.
Or someone perfecting a work in process. The eyelet cast in place makes me lean to this.
Whoever made it was probably a one man show and there were not many made.
The lettering is trivial to impress in the sand.
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I will bet you, in the years after WWII in the Seattle area, there were a *****ton of aircraft engineers who might have had a side project like this.
Same thing in Long Beach California. I don't think it was, but anything s possible.

Whatever you choose to believe about it, There were very few made.
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A wing on that vice adjuster bolt would be useful.
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