long spokes needed
04-07-08, 11:35 AM
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long spokes needed
Greetings all,
I am building a new wheelset for Capo #2, using the original Campagnolo Record high flange hubs and a pair of Nisi 27" clincher rims. The problem is that I need 305mm (drive side rear), 306mm (front), and 307mm (left side rear) spokes (yes, a full set of 305mm spokes should work) for my preferred historically correct 4X pattern, and most suppliers list nothing over 300mm. Before I simply give up and go 3X, does anyone know where I can find some long 14-15-14 gauge stainless spokes, preferably of DT or Wheelsmith quality?
Thanks and regards.
I am building a new wheelset for Capo #2, using the original Campagnolo Record high flange hubs and a pair of Nisi 27" clincher rims. The problem is that I need 305mm (drive side rear), 306mm (front), and 307mm (left side rear) spokes (yes, a full set of 305mm spokes should work) for my preferred historically correct 4X pattern, and most suppliers list nothing over 300mm. Before I simply give up and go 3X, does anyone know where I can find some long 14-15-14 gauge stainless spokes, preferably of DT or Wheelsmith quality?
Thanks and regards.
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
04-07-08, 12:05 PM
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John, I know this is not a great deal of help, but maybe insightful. The three sets of 27" rims I've had laced to high flange hubs (Campagnolo Record, '62 Normandy, and mid '70s Schwinn Approved), my LBS had to use custom cut and threaded straight gauge spokes for both a 3X and a 4X pattern. Fortunately for me, they did not charge extra to cut and thread the spokes.
If memory serves me correctly, I was also in the 300-310mm range when I did my best to determine the spoke length (something I'm not that good at). I couldn't find these lengths as well. Maybe this is why the LBS had to cut mine.
Best of luck.
If memory serves me correctly, I was also in the 300-310mm range when I did my best to determine the spoke length (something I'm not that good at). I couldn't find these lengths as well. Maybe this is why the LBS had to cut mine.
Best of luck.
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One of the best shops in Vancouver (IMHO) buys all their straight gauge spokes unthreaded. They have a DT cutting and threading machine... it's hand operated but works real nice. They cut and thread every spoke! I have stood there and waited while they did up my spokes I used to build my track wheels. I used straight gauge but now wish I used DB, oh well. Anyway, if you can find a shop that does that you might be in luck.
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My LBS gets spokes over 300mm. I don't understand why you're coming up dry.
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I only looked at the DT db spokes and there is no 306 but they have 305 and 307 and at only $0.49 a pop. Cambria Bike is the cheapest I have found online and quick to deliver.
https://www.cambriabike.com/shopexd.a...++SILVER+SPOKE
https://www.cambriabike.com/shopexd.a...++SILVER+SPOKE
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There were some 305 Robergel awhile ago on ebay cheap; I bought a bunch of 293s and found someone else that has nipples too.
4 cross high-flange?
heres some 306:
https://cgi.ebay.com/Robergel-Trois-E...QQcmdZViewItem
4 cross high-flange?
heres some 306:
https://cgi.ebay.com/Robergel-Trois-E...QQcmdZViewItem
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04-07-08, 08:24 PM
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There were some 305 Robergel awhile ago on ebay cheap; I bought a bunch of 293s and found someone else that has nipples too.
4 cross high-flange?
heres some 306:
https://cgi.ebay.com/Robergel-Trois-E...QQcmdZViewItem
4 cross high-flange?
heres some 306:
https://cgi.ebay.com/Robergel-Trois-E...QQcmdZViewItem
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
04-07-08, 08:31 PM
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Yup -- I like the look and the fact the the torque spokes come almost tangentially off the hub.
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
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Try Yellow Jersey - I just got some 14 gauge butted (is this 14-15-14?) stainless 305s there.
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John,
Mike at Boulder Bicycles just put a bunch of Trois Etoiles long spokes (305, 306mm lenghts) up
on ebay.
https://stores.ebay.com/Boulder-Bicycle
hope this helps.
Marty
Mike at Boulder Bicycles just put a bunch of Trois Etoiles long spokes (305, 306mm lenghts) up
on ebay.
https://stores.ebay.com/Boulder-Bicycle
hope this helps.
Marty
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John,
Mike at Boulder Bicycles just put a bunch of Trois Etoiles long spokes (305, 306mm lenghts) up
on ebay.
https://stores.ebay.com/Boulder-Bicycle
hope this helps.
Marty
Mike at Boulder Bicycles just put a bunch of Trois Etoiles long spokes (305, 306mm lenghts) up
on ebay.
https://stores.ebay.com/Boulder-Bicycle
hope this helps.
Marty
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
04-08-08, 02:51 PM
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Got 'em! Thanks, everyone. I'll post pictures when I finish the build -- these wheels should be awesome.
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
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I just recently bought some Grade 25 bearings pretty cheap from a guy on Ebay. I found him to be cheaper than the bike suppliers. He shipped pretty fast, too.
https://search.ebay.com/search/search...e=search&fgtp=
https://search.ebay.com/search/search...e=search&fgtp=
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I've bought single-butted spokes cut to requested length from https://www.icyclesusa.com/ before, and I'm pretty sure they offer DT's cut to order up to 312mm or so, if I'm not mistaken.
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You guys are awesome. The bearings, washers, spokes, and nipples are en route.
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
