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Did Hetchins contract build frames for Schwinn?
Schwinn 10 Speed 27"(?) - $45 (Montgomery, MN)
https://mankato.craigslist.org/bik/6171879249.html
Very nice 10 speed.
will need some TLC.
Please see picture last picture showing bent back wheel down tube.
Please review pictures as part of description.
Schwinn 10 Speed 27"(?) - $45 (Montgomery, MN)
https://mankato.craigslist.org/bik/6171879249.html
Very nice 10 speed.
will need some TLC.
Please see picture last picture showing bent back wheel down tube.
Please review pictures as part of description.
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Because the saddles say so:
Bikes for sale - $150 (san jose south)
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/bik/6189023881.html
Bikes for sale - $150 (san jose south)
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/bik/6189023881.html
Hopefully the guy sells both of them and gets one bike somewhere in the middle.
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RARE, MINT CONDITION, VINTAGE TORNADO ITALIA ROAD/RACE BIKE!
Watch out, it's a Tornado. Windy beast drives like a Porsche. That torrential wind and speed must explain why the cables are backwards.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/172748345643
Watch out, it's a Tornado. Windy beast drives like a Porsche. That torrential wind and speed must explain why the cables are backwards.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/172748345643
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RARE, MINT CONDITION, VINTAGE TORNADO ITALIA ROAD/RACE BIKE!
Watch out, it's a Tornado. Windy beast drives like a Porsche. That torrential wind and speed must explain why the cables are backwards.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/172748345643
Watch out, it's a Tornado. Windy beast drives like a Porsche. That torrential wind and speed must explain why the cables are backwards.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/172748345643
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still common in UK, and the standard for motorcycles. you can buy very cheap shimano hydraulic brakes on ebay that are hosed right-front.
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The ad says $1, but it's really offering free advice.
Bicycle Blue Book - $1 (Portland) - $1 (Portland)
https://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/bik/6174399416.html
My favorite part: "It could have been (or very likely was) a partial or complete trade that included weed. You can't put a value on that!" Ah...Portland!
Bicycle Blue Book - $1 (Portland) - $1 (Portland)
https://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/bik/6174399416.html
My favorite part: "It could have been (or very likely was) a partial or complete trade that included weed. You can't put a value on that!" Ah...Portland!
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The ad says $1, but it's really offering free advice.
Bicycle Blue Book - $1 (Portland) - $1 (Portland)
https://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/bik/6174399416.html
My favorite part: "It could have been (or very likely was) a partial or complete trade that included weed. You can't put a value on that!" Ah...Portland!
Bicycle Blue Book - $1 (Portland) - $1 (Portland)
https://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/bik/6174399416.html
My favorite part: "It could have been (or very likely was) a partial or complete trade that included weed. You can't put a value on that!" Ah...Portland!
Craigslist doesn't track asking vs selling prices.
E-Bay does get the actual sale prices, but unfortunately quickly erases most history, and for whatever reason, has decided to hid "offers".
I think many of the BBB prices are algorithmically based, and off by quite a bit, but it isn't a bad starting spot.
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They claim to be using data from eBay and "a proprietary algorithm" to arrive at their values. I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that the algorithm was based on MSRP minus a depreciation value based on the age of the bike relative to its expected lifespan. Like you say, not a bad starting point, but there are a lot of cases where it doesn't work at all.
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Maybe there's a logic to right lever controlling front brake and left lever controlling front derailleur. It never felt natural to me, and it looks kinda goofy now that I'm seeing it in another picture.
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for the majority of the population the right hand is dominant and one would usually want that on the front brake, as it is in control of 80% of your stopping power. Motorcycles in the USA are this way of course, as the left is the clutch in tandem with the shifter - both brakes are on the right side. strangely enough, some euro motobikes have the rear brake on the left foot and shifter on the right. (I have one myself) - but the clutch is still left and front brake right.
the swap of brakes and mech from side to side does not really seem to matter as long as you get used to it.. it works.
the swap of brakes and mech from side to side does not really seem to matter as long as you get used to it.. it works.
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But does it make any sense? It never has to me. Left side of bike controls front mechanics. Right side controls rear.
Maybe there's a logic to right lever controlling front brake and left lever controlling front derailleur. It never felt natural to me, and it looks kinda goofy now that I'm seeing it in another picture.
Maybe there's a logic to right lever controlling front brake and left lever controlling front derailleur. It never felt natural to me, and it looks kinda goofy now that I'm seeing it in another picture.
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I had my left arm injured 30 years ago. I was told I had a 10% loss in strength due to muscle damage and I also have a partial loss of feeling. I AM also RIGHT handed. I have absolutely no issue stopping any of my bikes applying the front brake with my left hand. It's a non-issue for me.
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Silence, all -- SB speaks:
Which Brake Which Side?
There is considerable disagreement as to which brake should be connected to which lever:
Some cyclists say it is best to have the stronger right hand (presuming a right-handed cyclist) operate the rear brake.
Motorcycles always have the right hand control the front brake, so cyclists who are also motorcyclists often prefer this setup. A moment of confusion in an emergency situation can be deadly. The left lever on a motorcycle operates the clutch, which will not stop you!
There are also observable national trends:
In countries where vehicles drive on the right, it is common to set the brakes up so that the front brake is operated by the left lever.
In countries where vehicles drive on the left, it is common to set the brakes up so that the front brake is operated by the right lever. The European Union has adopted this as a standard, even though only the United Kingdom and Ireland are left-side driving countries. The standard is not universally observed; a reader has written in to say that the left lever usually controls the front brake in Denmark.
The theory that seems most probable to me is that the national standards arose from a concern that the cyclist be able to make hand signals, and still be able to reach the primary brake. This logical idea is, unfortunately, accompanied by the incorrect premise that the rear brake is the primary brake.
For this reason, I set my own bikes up so that the right hand controls the front brake, which is not the norm in the U.S.
I also do this because I'm right-handed, and wish to have my more skillful hand operate the more critical brake.
On the other hand, if you have already developed a preference, it is usually best to stick with it -- or at least, choose a few weeks of riding under undemanding conditions to retrain your reflexes. In an emergency, you must act faster than you can think. If you switch between a Mac and a Windows PC, where the same keys don't make the same characters, or between a clarinet and a saxophone where they don't make the same musical notes, you know how reflexes can trip you up. If you are used to skidding the rear wheel with the rear brake, switching the brake cables can result a flight over the handlebars. If you mostly use the front brake, switching the cables can result in rear-wheel skidding and increased stopping distance. These problems are most likely when first riding an unfamiliar bike, so, again, always test the brakes with a light brake application when you first start out.
See also my letter to Bike Culture magazine.
There is considerable disagreement as to which brake should be connected to which lever:
Some cyclists say it is best to have the stronger right hand (presuming a right-handed cyclist) operate the rear brake.
Motorcycles always have the right hand control the front brake, so cyclists who are also motorcyclists often prefer this setup. A moment of confusion in an emergency situation can be deadly. The left lever on a motorcycle operates the clutch, which will not stop you!
There are also observable national trends:
In countries where vehicles drive on the right, it is common to set the brakes up so that the front brake is operated by the left lever.
In countries where vehicles drive on the left, it is common to set the brakes up so that the front brake is operated by the right lever. The European Union has adopted this as a standard, even though only the United Kingdom and Ireland are left-side driving countries. The standard is not universally observed; a reader has written in to say that the left lever usually controls the front brake in Denmark.
The theory that seems most probable to me is that the national standards arose from a concern that the cyclist be able to make hand signals, and still be able to reach the primary brake. This logical idea is, unfortunately, accompanied by the incorrect premise that the rear brake is the primary brake.
For this reason, I set my own bikes up so that the right hand controls the front brake, which is not the norm in the U.S.
I also do this because I'm right-handed, and wish to have my more skillful hand operate the more critical brake.
On the other hand, if you have already developed a preference, it is usually best to stick with it -- or at least, choose a few weeks of riding under undemanding conditions to retrain your reflexes. In an emergency, you must act faster than you can think. If you switch between a Mac and a Windows PC, where the same keys don't make the same characters, or between a clarinet and a saxophone where they don't make the same musical notes, you know how reflexes can trip you up. If you are used to skidding the rear wheel with the rear brake, switching the brake cables can result a flight over the handlebars. If you mostly use the front brake, switching the cables can result in rear-wheel skidding and increased stopping distance. These problems are most likely when first riding an unfamiliar bike, so, again, always test the brakes with a light brake application when you first start out.
See also my letter to Bike Culture magazine.
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I'm not sure I understand these ads.
https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/bik/6193778931.html
BIKES - $30 (LAKELAND)
NOT FOR SALE
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SAIL BIKE THE WIND SURFER - $60 (SH*THOLE)
NOT FOR SALE WARRIORCYCLES
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BIKES - $30 (LAKELAND)
NOT FOR SALE
https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/bik/6193806569.html
SAIL BIKE THE WIND SURFER - $60 (SH*THOLE)
NOT FOR SALE WARRIORCYCLES
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I have my bikes set up RF but I don't think I'd tell anyone else they ought to do that.
While motorcycles are set up RF, scooters are usually LF, how many more scooters are there in the world? Probably a lot.
While motorcycles are set up RF, scooters are usually LF, how many more scooters are there in the world? Probably a lot.
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And a nice "Nishiki Shogun Triathlolon Road Bike" for the bargain price of $299!
https://orlando.craigslist.org/bik/6154137709.html
https://orlando.craigslist.org/bik/6154137709.html
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https://ocala.craigslist.org/bik/6185535799.html
"Kent 32" super sized beach cruiser. Has only been used a few times, it takes up too much space in my apartment and must go"
I'm surprised they were able to ride this thing "a few times"
"Kent 32" super sized beach cruiser. Has only been used a few times, it takes up too much space in my apartment and must go"
I'm surprised they were able to ride this thing "a few times"
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It makes sense to me. The front brake does the larger share of work under braking. Effective braking requires both strength and the ability to modulate. For me, a right handed person, I can provide better grip strength and muscle control (resulting in better modulation) with my right hand.
In a similar vein, I had to re-learn how to eat in my 20s because my parents taught me the typical American "zig-zag" style of fork/knife eating which is super inefficient, switching fork from left to right hand after cutting. It took several weeks of practice, but I switched to "hybrid" style left-hand-only on forking and I can't imagine going back. Within 4-6 months I had amazing granular control over forking, better than my right, and I eat more gracefully and efficiently than before.
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But does it make any sense? It never has to me. Left side of bike controls front mechanics. Right side controls rear.
Maybe there's a logic to right lever controlling front brake and left lever controlling front derailleur. It never felt natural to me, and it looks kinda goofy now that I'm seeing it in another picture.
Maybe there's a logic to right lever controlling front brake and left lever controlling front derailleur. It never felt natural to me, and it looks kinda goofy now that I'm seeing it in another picture.
Right lever controls the important things, the rear derailleur and the front brake. The right is where we put all the useful things.
That's the logic of it.
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And a nice "Nishiki Shogun Triathlolon Road Bike" for the bargain price of $299!
https://orlando.craigslist.org/bik/6154137709.html
https://orlando.craigslist.org/bik/6154137709.html
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Makes sense. I guess I'm ambidextrous or it's become learned second nature. Maybe it's personal preference. I do find left-handed braking on the front more sensible and safer for me. It's my weaker grip, thus I'm less likely to clamp down so hard I go over the bars.
In a similar vein, I had to re-learn how to eat in my 20s because my parents taught me the typical American "zig-zag" style of fork/knife eating which is super inefficient, switching fork from left to right hand after cutting. It took several weeks of practice, but I switched to "hybrid" style left-hand-only on forking and I can't imagine going back. Within 4-6 months I had amazing granular control over forking, better than my right, and I eat more gracefully and efficiently than before.
In a similar vein, I had to re-learn how to eat in my 20s because my parents taught me the typical American "zig-zag" style of fork/knife eating which is super inefficient, switching fork from left to right hand after cutting. It took several weeks of practice, but I switched to "hybrid" style left-hand-only on forking and I can't imagine going back. Within 4-6 months I had amazing granular control over forking, better than my right, and I eat more gracefully and efficiently than before.
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At least the conversion back would be quick and easy.
I've never figured out how anybody could get the brakes to work with the bars turned that way.