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Not another PX-10 thread...
Yep, but this one is a little different.
I have 2 Peugeot PX-10's that I believe are 1968, and are original down to the sew ups. The condition is pretty darned good. The one that is my size, I have been meticulously cleaning and polishing slowly for the past few months.
At the same time, I was up late on the Internets (you know, the series of tubes...) and started filling up shopping carts on Velo Orange. Normally I fill up the cart and walk away, sort of like window shopping (Web-dow shopping if you will), but this time I hit "execute" and bought some fun, shiny stuff that I can't afford.
One thing lead to another, and I took my newly cleaned frame, put on the clincher wheels from my 80' Peugeot Super Competition, the new Velo Orange Porteur rack, Porteur bars, Honjo fenders, a white vintage tire (damaged so It is just a stand in to see if I like the look) and some vintage lighting I have lying around... and this is what happened.
I had intended to keep it pristine and completely original... but I really kind of like how it's beginning to look. So I'm going to go forward with the concept and see how I like it in a few months when I can actually go outside again. Yes, yes, there are plenty of parts not on... this is a work in progress so you don't need to tell me I'm missing chainrings.
I am keeping all of the original parts safe for when I turn it back, if I do. And the second PX-10 (purchased together from husband/wife) is too small for me so it will remain untouched as a specimen bike.
If you are still reading, Peugeot-o-philes might be interested in this detail. The Honjo fenders have a connection option using a bolt that goes up through the fork tube and is secured by the front brake bolt. The only way to do this was to remove a @ 2" dowel that is fitted there with a hole drilled to allow the brake bolt to pass through.
This is interesting because I had previously posted about a blockage in the seat tube of the same bike, and determined that it must be cork or some other material. It exists on my second PX-10 as well, so I felt it was supposed to be there. I am wondering now if it is the same (pine???) wood dowel as is pressed into the fork tube. I will post a photo of the wood dowel tomorrow for any one interested.
Nothing that I am doing cannot be un-done. I know some of you are sensitive to this, as am I. But having 2 PX-10's gives me the chance to breath some new life into an old girl.
What do you think of where this is going?
Oh, and one note... I am having trouble with the fit of the Honjo fenders... something that is well documented on blogs and forums. I think I will be able to craft a solution, whether it is altering the hardware or mounting different wheels/tires.
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I have 2 Peugeot PX-10's that I believe are 1968, and are original down to the sew ups. The condition is pretty darned good. The one that is my size, I have been meticulously cleaning and polishing slowly for the past few months.
At the same time, I was up late on the Internets (you know, the series of tubes...) and started filling up shopping carts on Velo Orange. Normally I fill up the cart and walk away, sort of like window shopping (Web-dow shopping if you will), but this time I hit "execute" and bought some fun, shiny stuff that I can't afford.
One thing lead to another, and I took my newly cleaned frame, put on the clincher wheels from my 80' Peugeot Super Competition, the new Velo Orange Porteur rack, Porteur bars, Honjo fenders, a white vintage tire (damaged so It is just a stand in to see if I like the look) and some vintage lighting I have lying around... and this is what happened.
I had intended to keep it pristine and completely original... but I really kind of like how it's beginning to look. So I'm going to go forward with the concept and see how I like it in a few months when I can actually go outside again. Yes, yes, there are plenty of parts not on... this is a work in progress so you don't need to tell me I'm missing chainrings.
I am keeping all of the original parts safe for when I turn it back, if I do. And the second PX-10 (purchased together from husband/wife) is too small for me so it will remain untouched as a specimen bike.
If you are still reading, Peugeot-o-philes might be interested in this detail. The Honjo fenders have a connection option using a bolt that goes up through the fork tube and is secured by the front brake bolt. The only way to do this was to remove a @ 2" dowel that is fitted there with a hole drilled to allow the brake bolt to pass through.
This is interesting because I had previously posted about a blockage in the seat tube of the same bike, and determined that it must be cork or some other material. It exists on my second PX-10 as well, so I felt it was supposed to be there. I am wondering now if it is the same (pine???) wood dowel as is pressed into the fork tube. I will post a photo of the wood dowel tomorrow for any one interested.
Nothing that I am doing cannot be un-done. I know some of you are sensitive to this, as am I. But having 2 PX-10's gives me the chance to breath some new life into an old girl.
What do you think of where this is going?
Oh, and one note... I am having trouble with the fit of the Honjo fenders... something that is well documented on blogs and forums. I think I will be able to craft a solution, whether it is altering the hardware or mounting different wheels/tires.
[IMG][/IMG][IMG][/IMG][IMG][/IMG]
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Thanks.
I took them off a vintage front rack that I found on ebay last year. It was a heavy chromed steel rack that had seen better days. It was nice in that it had graceful curved around the lights. Unfortunately it doesn't work for any of my bikes, so I borrowed the lights to see how it looks. The VO rack is surprisingly light, stainless steel, and it is of superior quality. You pay for it though.
I took them off a vintage front rack that I found on ebay last year. It was a heavy chromed steel rack that had seen better days. It was nice in that it had graceful curved around the lights. Unfortunately it doesn't work for any of my bikes, so I borrowed the lights to see how it looks. The VO rack is surprisingly light, stainless steel, and it is of superior quality. You pay for it though.
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I like your approach to your vintage bicycle preservation. Use it the way you want to but ensure that it can be returned to original state, or close to it, if the need to do so presents itself. Nice bike. I happen to really like my PX10, for what ever that is worth.
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I will update this thread as I get further along. I will also post photos of the "Control" PX-10. It's great having them side by side when working on the one, I can quickly refer to the other to make sure I put things back on correctly.
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I really like how it looks. For me, the handlebars look a little too plain, I would prefer Northroad or Albatross style bars. Perhaps adding grips and brake levers would make it stand out less.
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Not to worry... I have Elkskin leather sew on grips for the bars... but I am looking for some vintage porteur brake levers which curve in the profile of the bars. That will allow braking from 2 positions.
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Aren't you recreating Yehuda Moon's bike? I like it.
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I see the bars echo the contour of the rack & visa-versa - but you need something in it.
- a 12 pack of Miller maybe?
- or maybe a more hoidy-toidy beer. ( It IS a PX10 after all !)
- a 12 pack of Miller maybe?
- or maybe a more hoidy-toidy beer. ( It IS a PX10 after all !)
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I like it a lot so far, what are you going to use for brake levers and grips?
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Yeah... trash picked Murrays are for carting Miller 12 packs around. A bike that nice should be carrying something nice, maybe some Founders Breakfast stout. I can't think of a French beer, so maybe some Champagne?
I like it a lot so far, what are you going to use for brake levers and grips?
I like it a lot so far, what are you going to use for brake levers and grips?
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Actually... I have the purpose for the rack all figured out: I am going to build some modular "pods" that will fit into the rack for different occasions. The first will be a stainless or polished aluminum martini bar. It will have all the makings for 2 dry vodka martinis with a place for the crushed ice. Other "pods" will be made of some fine vintage burled hardwood micro thin plywood that a woodworking friend gave me. It is all unused stock from 40 years ago, so the vintage is period correct. Each pod will serve a different but unique purpose depending upon the intended ride.
Who is Yahuda Moon?
Yes, the white tyre (good choice Oldpeddaller) are a bid inbred French Royalty, but I'm willing to go with it for now until I start embarrassing myself.
I think I am going to design an aluminum battery box that discreetly powers all of the lights. Those vintage lights will have modern led components in them to go up against the darkest nights.
Nothing wrong with Founders indeed. Though I am partial to a good Porter.
Who is Yahuda Moon?
Yes, the white tyre (good choice Oldpeddaller) are a bid inbred French Royalty, but I'm willing to go with it for now until I start embarrassing myself.
I think I am going to design an aluminum battery box that discreetly powers all of the lights. Those vintage lights will have modern led components in them to go up against the darkest nights.
Nothing wrong with Founders indeed. Though I am partial to a good Porter.
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https://www.velo-orange.com/diacogule.html
They won't work with those bars. You almost have to use inverse levers because of the sharp bend just past the grip area. Those are not porteur bars. These are porteur bars and those brakes will work with them.
https://www.velo-orange.com/vopoha.html
I don't like white tires on white Peugeots. I tried it.
I don't see anything wrong with modifying a PX10. You've taken an obsolete racing bike and turned it into something useful.
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I like those montmatre bars. I have them on my touring bike with reverse levers and cross levers. They seem quite nice though I haven't taken that bike out much because it is the dead of winter where I live and I figure I might as well only get one bike all grimy.
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Nice bike! I really like the look of your project so far.
I have the montmatre bars on my PX10 as well...I don't really like them for riding but they do look good. I guess I don't really like the super upright position they force you to have. A wide sprung saddle is a plus when using those bars... I ended up using a much longer stem than usual to get the things a bit away from me. It was like being caged in and they hampered spirited riding through corners for fear of slapping my knees on the ends...Adding nearly an inch of length with inversed levers didn't help much either. And getting outa the saddle pretty much sucks with 'em too. I guess for around town and to the store riding they are fine. They sure do look good though!
Watch the swing of the bars and rack when parked and loaded. Those suckers can put a heckuva dent in your tubes!
I have the montmatre bars on my PX10 as well...I don't really like them for riding but they do look good. I guess I don't really like the super upright position they force you to have. A wide sprung saddle is a plus when using those bars... I ended up using a much longer stem than usual to get the things a bit away from me. It was like being caged in and they hampered spirited riding through corners for fear of slapping my knees on the ends...Adding nearly an inch of length with inversed levers didn't help much either. And getting outa the saddle pretty much sucks with 'em too. I guess for around town and to the store riding they are fine. They sure do look good though!
Watch the swing of the bars and rack when parked and loaded. Those suckers can put a heckuva dent in your tubes!
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That bike has been butchered.
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Mr. Peugeot - There's nothing irreversible here, and per the OP, " I am keeping all of the original parts safe for when I turn it back, if I do. And the second PX-10 (purchased together from husband/wife) is too small for me so it will remain untouched as a specimen bike."
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Do you mean these?
https://www.velo-orange.com/diacogule.html
They won't work with those bars. You almost have to use inverse levers because of the sharp bend just past the grip area. Those are not porteur bars. These are porteur bars and those brakes will work with them.
https://www.velo-orange.com/vopoha.html
I don't like white tires on white Peugeots. I tried it.
https://www.velo-orange.com/diacogule.html
They won't work with those bars. You almost have to use inverse levers because of the sharp bend just past the grip area. Those are not porteur bars. These are porteur bars and those brakes will work with them.
https://www.velo-orange.com/vopoha.html
I don't like white tires on white Peugeots. I tried it.
mr. peugeot- I prefer to think of it as "Guillotined". If your name is any indication, I have likely committed a sin in your eyes. Sorry. For your own piece of mind... you should probably avert your eyes from this thread. I'm thinking about using the Dremmel cut off wheel to remove the derailleur hanger... what do you think?*
Thanks auchencrow for coming to my rescue. It's good to see varying opinions... I get to second guess myself with all of you who have different experiences.
*just kidding.
So tonight I got the fenders as perfect and secure as the will ever get. I solved the tire rubbing problem by putting different tires on. And I am researching strategies for attaching the front rack (it is merely sitting in the photos). I may have to do some creative adjusting to get it right. Anyone here done this before?
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