jimogloff

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I was recently given a bike by my grandpa that he purchased 30 or so years ago second hand. I believe most of the parts are still the same, however the frame has been painted over and i was wondering if people could help identify the frame from the pictures above.

treebound 

Take a close up picture of the rear dropout where the rear wheels mounts and try to show how the seat stays and chain stays (tubes) attach to the dropout plate. I think I might see something to indicate that maybe the bike was "upgraded" with better components. Hard to tell with my phone browser.
Also look the bike over and try to find any serial numbers stamped into it. It looks like the headbadge might be missing.

randyjawa 

Your pictures are not quite good enough to accurately identify make, model or vintage. Good pictures of the drive side of the bike, the front and rear drop-outs, the bottom bracket, fork crown and seat lugs. Add a serial number, if one can be found. Also, where is the bike located - location sometimes helps with identification. That said...

Generally, the bicycle would be of entry level quality and of Asian origin. There is nothing at all special about the bicycle and, even though it grieves me to suggest this, the frame set is bent where the top tube enters the head lug. This could be an optical illusion due to the quality of your pictures. However, the tube does look bent and the paint is cracked in the area of concern.

I do hope this is a bit of help and if you would like to start to investigate quality and maker issues, you might want to spend some time viewing the pages of MY "TEN SPEEDS". That website target high end and entry level bicycles, alike. The purpose of the site is to help people new to the interest of vintage road bicycles.

Hope this is a help.

jimogloff

Yes it is however put in simpler terms would be great as i am rather new to bikes but thanks heaps

treebound 

Serial numbers can be found in different places, stamped into the rear dropouts, around or down the side of the seat tube, stamped into the headtube, under the bottom bracket area. Sometimes there are also manufacturer and date codes to add confusion. Also there is a web site where you can look up date codes on the components but I don't have that site's address handy.

Until you can upload some better detail pics can you say if the stays/tubes look like they are simply crimped/squeezed onto the rear dropout, or does it look like they are welded or brazed?

As to a possible bent frame or fork, when a bike hits something the top tube and down tube will often bend just behind the headtube lugs. Cracked or flaked off paint is often an indicator of this and is one of the things many of us keep an eye open for when looking at used bikes.

jimogloff

THanks i wil upload more phtos soon and llok for serial numbers. OUt of interest how will the bent tube actually affect the the bike?

randyjawa 

It certainly lowers the $ value of the bicycle. It will also, most likely, cause the bicycle to handle poorly. Chances are good that the bicycle, when ridden, will pull either left or right. Hardly a decent quality ride, in my opinion. That said...

If all you care about is basic and cheap transportation, then you have the bike of your dreams. It will get you around, however unsafely, but it will, probably, be rideable.

wrk101

Keep an eye out for an undamaged frame and use this one as a donor. Parts appear to be in pretty good shape.

old's'cool

+1
Pretty nice components, by the look of it.

jimogloff

that would explain why the bike tends to drift to the right when i ride with no hands, however it doesnt paticuarly worry me as value isn't a cncern im just looking to find out more about the bike

jimogloff

I believe the bike has been repainted ins omepoint in its lifetime and i cannot find any form of identification, the bike is located in victoria,australia