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Old 07-25-14, 02:07 PM
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New Suntour!

Are these parts already on the market?

SunXCD - Bicycle Components

Really interested in the 120mm old cassette hub!
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The have Merry Sales listed as the U.S. distributor. Merry Sales also sells Soma bike frames.
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The parts are in the Soma store. You could probably buy a dozen old 27" wheels for the price of that hub.
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Probably, the question would be, why would you want old 27" wheels?

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The parts are in the Soma store. You could probably buy a dozen old 27" wheels for the price of that hub.
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I would like to know what the price is for the high flange hubs. I hope they are cheaper than NOS Campy or Dura Ace. I could use the 130mm on my bikes...
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Originally Posted by vjp
Probably, the question would be, why would you want old 27" wheels?
'cause they're cool if they're nos suntour hubs laced to nos mavic rims bought for $15 each at an antique shop? (no kidding.)
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Amazing stuff, glad to see that they offer more products now.
SunXCD and René Herse from Compass Bicycles makes old/classic bikes come to life. SunXCD's high flanged hubs in Campagnolo style looked perfect.

If you need a more French style:
https://www.compasscycle.com/hub_gb_120.html

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Originally Posted by vjp
Probably, the question would be, why would you want old 27" wheels?
For my old 27" bike with 120mm spacing and a 5-speed freewheel. Why do you want a short cassette hub for 120mm spacing? If you are imagining an X-of-N cassette, why not just respace and get all N gears with no compromises? It seems like a solution in search of a problem. For the bikes that cannot be respaced there is no lack of vintage parts in the world that would have an easy time beating this thing for price.
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There are a lot of those parts that look very nice to me. I'm considering the Sun XCD wheelset when it comes time to replace some of my 27" wheels.

It says the shifters are indexing... Accushift?


And what would the rear deraileur be set for?
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I like the stuff, but don't quite get why they sell a 7/8sp shifter and a 9/10 RD.
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I assume this new "Suntour" is not owned by the same company as before (Maeda)
I'm temted to say the stuff looks fugly compared to the C&V Suntour stuff, but then these are "modern components", so hard core C&V Suntour lovers that my not be comfortable with how these look like, should not be surprised....
Kinda puzzled though that them going retro with their crankset = going with an older "clunkyish" French crank look with the flat plate spider. I'd rather they resurrect a crank that looked like the old Cyclone, Superbe or Superbe Pro or other models that were contemporary to it. In short, could they have just given us something that looked classically beautiful??
Suntour, just re-make me a new Cyclone MkII derailleur set, so maybe I don't have to pay an arm and a leg for it like they sell them at eBay!....
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Originally Posted by Chombi
I assume this new "Suntour" is not owned by the same company as before (Maeda)
I'm temted to say the stuff looks fugly compared to the C&V Suntour stuff, but then these are "modern components", so hard core C&V Suntour lovers that my not be comfortable with how these look like, should not be surprised....
Kinda puzzled though that them going retro with their crankset = going with an older "clunkyish" French crank look with the flat plate spider. I'd rather they resurrect a crank that looked like the old Cyclone, Superbe or Superbe Pro or other models that were contemporary to it. In short, could they have just given us something that looked classically beautiful??
Suntour, just re-make me a new Cyclone MkII derailleur set, so maybe I don't have to pay an arm and a leg for it like they sell them at eBay!....
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Well, the crank arms may be compatible with vintage 50.4 bcd rings and modern derailleurs (if the dim. between the big ring and the back of the arm is enough), and the adaptor is for what, 110 or 130mm? Not having rings is pretty limiting in my view.
The other parts styling is indeed, ho-hum.

One interesting item is the 120mm wide overall rear freehub, That might be interesting if you broke or bent C&V axles on a regular basis and wanted a solution. Who is making a 5 speed cassette right now of different ratios in the Shimano / SRAM spline profile?
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I like the look of the derailleurs. The lack of pricing info scares me. Makes me think 'if you have to ask, you can't afford it.'
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes
I like the stuff, but don't quite get why they sell a 7/8sp shifter and a 9/10 RD.
They're all just Shimano compatible so they will work together.
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Originally Posted by jon c.
I like the look of the derailleurs. The lack of pricing info scares me. Makes me think 'if you have to ask, you can't afford it.'
It's in the Soma store. They're between Ultegra and DA in pricing.
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Originally Posted by repechage
One interesting item is the 120mm wide overall rear freehub, That might be interesting if you broke or bent C&V axles on a regular basis and wanted a solution. Who is making a 5 speed cassette right now of different ratios in the Shimano / SRAM spline profile?
Compass is selling them, for their own similar hub, but you can stack your own if you just cut the heads off the rivets of the cassette. Then you get a pile of cogs and spacers and use what you want.
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Originally Posted by Darth Lefty
Compass is selling them, for their own similar hub, but you can stack your own if you just cut the heads off the rivets of the cassette. Then you get a pile of cogs and spacers and use what you want.
$88 for a five speed cassette. Makes it a serious decision. But you do get revised spacers.
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$88 for a five speed cassette. Makes it a serious decision. But you do get revised spacers.
If you want to go the 6-speed route, an 8-speed cassette donor is <$20. Makes it a nice lunch rather than a serious decision! However no such product is offered by Sun XCD so far, and there's no guarantee it's the same width as Compass's. So I am curious if their manual will tell you how to build a cassette.
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