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Old 11-24-14, 09:36 PM
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shifter upgrade time = Q's

in pursuit of a good all-around bike i picked up a schwinn crisscross (double butted cromo, lugged, rack mounts, 2 x bottle cage mounts, canti brakes). since i am converting to drop bars i am stumped as to what is the best path for sti/brifters. the bike currently has a 7 speed freewheel but i plan on replacing the wheels at some point.

so my question is: if i plan on replacing the wheels anyway should i just upgrade to 8+ cassette in the rear? if i can find a wheelset that offers 7 speed cassette then i can cheap out and get some older brifters.

i feel that 7 is enough since it has a triple up front but i worry that if i build an 8+ speed wheelset with a 7 speed cassette and spacer that the gears will be 8+ travel distance apart and the 7 speed brifters will no longer work.

its more money upfront but should i just go 8+ in the rear and get a modern wheelset since i need to purchase the brifters anyhow? ill have to get a new RD and spread the rear triangle if i go 8+ also.

thoughts, experience, insights; all appreciated.
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in pursuit of a good all-around bike i picked up a schwinn crisscross (double butted cromo, lugged, rack mounts, 2 x bottle cage mounts, canti brakes). since i am converting to drop bars i am stumped as to what is the best path for sti/brifters. the bike currently has a 7 speed freewheel but i plan on replacing the wheels at some point.

so my question is: if i plan on replacing the wheels anyway should i just upgrade to 8+ cassette in the rear? if i can find a wheelset that offers 7 speed cassette then i can cheap out and get some older brifters.

i feel that 7 is enough since it has a triple up front but i worry that if i build an 8+ speed wheelset with a 7 speed cassette and spacer that the gears will be 8+ travel distance apart and the 7 speed brifters will no longer work.

its more money upfront but should i just go 8+ in the rear and get a modern wheelset since i need to purchase the brifters anyhow? ill have to get a new RD and spread the rear triangle if i go 8+ also.

thoughts, experience, insights; all appreciated.
8 speed and 7 speed SHimano spacing is almost the same. If set up well, they are effectively cross-compatible.

But, Instead of getting a new wheel and having to stretch out your frame, I would install a Sora 7-speed right hand shifter. 7 cogs are enough. Leave the left-hand a downtube shifter. 90+% of your shifting is on the right. Replace the freewheel with a modern HG37 or the like, a new IG51 chain and replace the cables and housings. The shifter is around $40 on Ebay, freewheel and chain about $15 each and new shifter cables and housing (buy cut lengths - not a kit) will be around $10.

This will shift like butta, and cost you less than $100 for brand new parts.
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You could transplant an 8 spd body onto that wheelset and just go with the 8 speed brifters from the start, or go with 8 spd indexed bar end shifters. Even friction barcons will shift really nicely with a new 8 spd cassette if you want to consider that (less expensive) route.
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thanks for the replies. the bike was a flat bar with rapid shifters originally so i dont have an oem downtube shifter but i could get one online if i cant find a spare in the parts bin.

i was worried about adding an 8 spd in the rear to the stock wheels, 1 - because theyre heavy and probably cheap, 2 - the last wheelset i took out on a gravel ride that also had a freewheel ended up with a bent rear axle. but that would at least get this bike on the road for the time being though.

any thoughts on gearing? the large gear in the rear is a 30t.
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I agree with Dave, as far as doing it on the cheap goes, but if you also need a left drop-bar shifter, it might be economical to snag a pair of Shimano 2300 STIs; they average about $100 - $120/set, brand new (less still, when they go on sale). They're not bad by most accounts; the 'Claris' 2400-series shifters are actually good value.

If you plan on keeping the flat bar, the 7sp EF-series shifters are also a fairly decent value.

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The Claris shifters are excellent. Put them on my girlfriend's bike and they shift very nicely for being bottom tier. They also don't have the thumb lever.
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drivetrain and wheel upgrades can get expensive fast. Ride the bike a bit and make sure you like it enough to invest the money. It may be a better choice to just ride it until you find a deal on something that is closer to what you want, and sell this one.
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