1st Century: How often to stop/dismount?
08-08-14, 08:14 AM
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A lot of slow digesting carbs, a lot of potassium, good bit of protein, and high carb to fat ratio, I got enough of my own fat to fuel a semi! I have no data to support this, but I figure, if I ingest protein, then I'll spare my muscles, if I don't provide fat, I'll just liberate more fat from my ample storage. So I try to increase my carb and protein to fat ratios when I ride on the bike. Off bike, other then recovery I try to avoid carbs especially simple carbs.
I found through researching ultra endurance events, that you can train; carb digestion, both protein and fat gluconeogenesis as well as your efficiency. Per miracle of adaptation, you can increase (within your personal range) all of these by basically requiring your body to do them...
08-08-14, 08:58 AM
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You convert both fat and protein, there are only two sources of protein in your body.
Eat it or your muscles, that is what is meant by sparing...
You can't switch off either fat or protein gluconeogenesis.
What ever you choose.
Explains why I deplete my reserves, need to train more...
Eat it or your muscles, that is what is meant by sparing...
You can't switch off either fat or protein gluconeogenesis.
What ever you choose.
Explains why I deplete my reserves, need to train more...
08-08-14, 09:34 AM
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Me too. Unfortunately, clif bars survive in my back pocket better. I haven't carried fig newtons in a while - last time I did I had a ziploc bag full of crumbs. That's the nice thing about supported rides though, they carry those delicate foods to the SAG stops for you, and the clif bar becomes an emergency reserve. The Just In Case bar.
08-08-14, 09:41 AM
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Me too. Unfortunately, clif bars survive in my back pocket better. I haven't carried fig newtons in a while - last time I did I had a ziploc bag full of crumbs. That's the nice thing about supported rides though, they carry those delicate foods to the SAG stops for you, and the clif bar becomes an emergency reserve. The Just In Case bar.
I bought a package of them but my daily calorie goals never seem to include them.
The Feed Zone Portables so far have been great but I eat them as snacks at work......need to sort of eat on my feet a lot of days, and the portables are great for that.
Bill
08-08-14, 10:55 AM
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They don't melt or anything, they just turn into a sack of crumbs. Same nutritional value, just less fun to eat.
08-09-14, 03:56 PM
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For the longevity issue I wonder if you could freeze them then they might survive better, but still thaw in time to eat ?? :-).
Irellivant for cycling, but the reason I went to them instead of Power Bars etc. years ago was because they are eatable at low temperatures where the bars either become completely un-chewable or will pull all your fillings out.
And, I just like them better.
The emergency bonk food is a small box of raisins. Almost pure fructose!
Irellivant for cycling, but the reason I went to them instead of Power Bars etc. years ago was because they are eatable at low temperatures where the bars either become completely un-chewable or will pull all your fillings out.
And, I just like them better.
The emergency bonk food is a small box of raisins. Almost pure fructose!
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08-10-14, 03:40 PM
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I'll take a couple with me for Cool Breeze, hilly version, and see how that goes. They're the mini size so I think they'll be perfect sizes for between SAG stops.
08-18-14, 06:54 PM
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It is good to experiment with the kinds of solids and liquids your body can tolerate while riding. Everybody is different and what one person likes, somebody else won't, so really everybody is right. How much you need to take in per hour will be dependent on pace, size, company, and terrain. A lot of this stuff I wouldn't stress on.
08-19-14, 10:44 AM
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It is good to experiment with the kinds of solids and liquids your body can tolerate while riding. Everybody is different and what one person likes, somebody else won't, so really everybody is right. How much you need to take in per hour will be dependent on pace, size, company, and terrain. A lot of this stuff I wouldn't stress on.
08-19-14, 04:03 PM
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My first post here, after lurking for a few months! I'm a fairly new cyclist getting ready for my first century in mid-September. It's a flat route (hooray!) so it's mostly a matter of me just hanging in there for the long haul.
My questions is: assuming the ride will be 6 hours +/-, how often would it be typical to stop along the way? I figure I'll stop for at least a couple of minutes every 45-60 min. to take in some nourishment, as I don't like doing that while rolling.
I'm still a clyde at 225 (down from 330 a year ago), and my biggest obstacles are getting a sore butt and some stiffness in my lower back.
Any advice (or words of encouragement) would be welcome.
My questions is: assuming the ride will be 6 hours +/-, how often would it be typical to stop along the way? I figure I'll stop for at least a couple of minutes every 45-60 min. to take in some nourishment, as I don't like doing that while rolling.
I'm still a clyde at 225 (down from 330 a year ago), and my biggest obstacles are getting a sore butt and some stiffness in my lower back.
Any advice (or words of encouragement) would be welcome.
TORGV looks to be pretty nice, though.
08-21-14, 03:38 PM
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I think I'll be there as well! I did the SF Century earlier this year as my first, which was ... less flat, in just over 6 hours. I didn't have to stop on that one for the first 50 miles, but after that I started hitting the stops.
TORGV looks to be pretty nice, though.
TORGV looks to be pretty nice, though.
09-14-14, 06:56 PM
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My first Century is complete! It was a gorgeous day for a ride. Just on the verge of chilly this morning when we started; not too warm in the early afternoon. Wind at our BACKS on the 2nd half of the ride!
My group of 3 did it in about 6:15, including short stops at 4 of the 6 rest areas, and one flat tire. I say "about 6:15" because my Garmin had a weird thing about 10 miles in, and it just shut itself down. Powered off! I restarted it for the last 90, but the stats are broken into two files/rides now.
Over the last few weeks, I got more comfortable eating while riding. I put a small tri-bag on my top tube and had a bunch of Clif Shot Bloks in it. Set a timer on my Garmin to beep and remind me to eat. Complemented that with fresh fruit and trail mix at the rest stops and lots of water all day, and it felt like my nutrition was just right for the day.
My wife was waiting at the finish with cold beer for me and my buddies (local La Cumbre brew, ice cold). Pretty great day!
My group of 3 did it in about 6:15, including short stops at 4 of the 6 rest areas, and one flat tire. I say "about 6:15" because my Garmin had a weird thing about 10 miles in, and it just shut itself down. Powered off! I restarted it for the last 90, but the stats are broken into two files/rides now.
Over the last few weeks, I got more comfortable eating while riding. I put a small tri-bag on my top tube and had a bunch of Clif Shot Bloks in it. Set a timer on my Garmin to beep and remind me to eat. Complemented that with fresh fruit and trail mix at the rest stops and lots of water all day, and it felt like my nutrition was just right for the day.
My wife was waiting at the finish with cold beer for me and my buddies (local La Cumbre brew, ice cold). Pretty great day!
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Yeah I just saw that one earlier today. Haven't seen anything about it before. I would do the 50 mile route, but I will be out of town that weekend. I will probably try for my first century on the santa fe one in May 2015. Although I might need to get some different gearing, or a new bike. I am not sure I can handle the hills on that one with my 52/40 front chainring setup. Anyway have fun and let us know how it goes. I will probably try out this one next year.
TORGV -- for me -- was flat and /fast/. 4.5 hours moving time to complete.
Then a nap.
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My first Century is complete! It was a gorgeous day for a ride. Just on the verge of chilly this morning when we started; not too warm in the early afternoon. Wind at our BACKS on the 2nd half of the ride!
My group of 3 did it in about 6:15, including short stops at 4 of the 6 rest areas, and one flat tire. I say "about 6:15" because my Garmin had a weird thing about 10 miles in, and it just shut itself down. Powered off! I restarted it for the last 90, but the stats are broken into two files/rides now.
Over the last few weeks, I got more comfortable eating while riding. I put a small tri-bag on my top tube and had a bunch of Clif Shot Bloks in it. Set a timer on my Garmin to beep and remind me to eat. Complemented that with fresh fruit and trail mix at the rest stops and lots of water all day, and it felt like my nutrition was just right for the day.
My wife was waiting at the finish with cold beer for me and my buddies (local La Cumbre brew, ice cold). Pretty great day!
My group of 3 did it in about 6:15, including short stops at 4 of the 6 rest areas, and one flat tire. I say "about 6:15" because my Garmin had a weird thing about 10 miles in, and it just shut itself down. Powered off! I restarted it for the last 90, but the stats are broken into two files/rides now.
Over the last few weeks, I got more comfortable eating while riding. I put a small tri-bag on my top tube and had a bunch of Clif Shot Bloks in it. Set a timer on my Garmin to beep and remind me to eat. Complemented that with fresh fruit and trail mix at the rest stops and lots of water all day, and it felt like my nutrition was just right for the day.
My wife was waiting at the finish with cold beer for me and my buddies (local La Cumbre brew, ice cold). Pretty great day!
09-16-14, 11:53 AM
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Thanks, fellas! Glad to have the first one under my belt. Now I need to start working on climbing, so I can tackle some of the other long ride events in the area!
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