Cyclists riding on the wrong side of the road - how do you respond?
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Are the wrong way riders coming out of the bike path you are heading to?
Using that generous shoulder as a shortcut?
Maybe you can stick a home made bicylists pass on the right sign along
the way then stick to your guns.
Using that generous shoulder as a shortcut?
Maybe you can stick a home made bicylists pass on the right sign along
the way then stick to your guns.
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I play chicken with them, and then yell something like "You're on the Wrong Side!", or "Other Side of the Road!" as we pass.
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My Answer hasn't changed since last week
Pass in the traffic lane.
Same I would do for
a jogger,
accident debris,
an illegally parked car,
a vehicle discharging passengers,
a delivery truck dropping off a package,
a construction sign,
illegally dumped garbage,
a snowbank,
or a pothole.
I don't "play chicken" with any of these legal and/or illegal BL obstructions, and wayward cyclists are no different.
Same I would do for
a jogger,
accident debris,
an illegally parked car,
a vehicle discharging passengers,
a delivery truck dropping off a package,
a construction sign,
illegally dumped garbage,
a snowbank,
or a pothole.
I don't "play chicken" with any of these legal and/or illegal BL obstructions, and wayward cyclists are no different.
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In my head, I kidnap them off their bike, and set them up in my basement Clockwork Orange style watching repeating videos of the local cycling laws.
In reality I move into the lane and give them a dirty look as they pass.
In reality I move into the lane and give them a dirty look as they pass.
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I saw one of these wrong-way riders last night on my trip home. He also had no lights!! Luckily, he was on the other side of the road so he wasn't a direct hazard to me so I just muttered, "Damn bike ninja", and kept riding.
I've had a bunch of these wrong-way riders and the worst of them, the above mentioned wrong-way bike ninja, coming at me. I normally ring my bell and ride in a way that forces them to the outside of me, closest to traffic. They are in a better position to see traffic. I'm doing my best to make room for the scofflaw and not run into them or parked cars at the same time. Ugh.
I've considered calling out, "Wrong way!!", or ,"Get some lights! It's the law!!". But then I think, it's not my job to educate them. Let them die in a horrible head-on collision. As long as no one else but them gets hurt I consider it Darwinism at it's best.
I saw one of these wrong-way riders last night on my trip home. He also had no lights!! Luckily, he was on the other side of the road so he wasn't a direct hazard to me so I just muttered, "Damn bike ninja", and kept riding.
I've had a bunch of these wrong-way riders and the worst of them, the above mentioned wrong-way bike ninja, coming at me. I normally ring my bell and ride in a way that forces them to the outside of me, closest to traffic. They are in a better position to see traffic. I'm doing my best to make room for the scofflaw and not run into them or parked cars at the same time. Ugh.
I've considered calling out, "Wrong way!!", or ,"Get some lights! It's the law!!". But then I think, it's not my job to educate them. Let them die in a horrible head-on collision. As long as no one else but them gets hurt I consider it Darwinism at it's best.
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unfortunately there are a lot of those here in down town.
i hate it, but i remain cool, and give them plenty of room to travel.
i just take the left lane for the passing.
i hate it, but i remain cool, and give them plenty of room to travel.
i just take the left lane for the passing.
So this morning on the way in to work, I was riding down a fairly busy (and high speed) road on which I usually ride in the fairly generous shoulder. About halfway down to where I turn onto the bike path, I saw someone else on a bike coming right at me in the same shoulder. I did what I usually do in this case, which is check for traffic, get out into the lane, get by the other person, and then move back over.
I wish this was just an occasional problem, but unfortuantly, it seems that the significant majority of bikes I see on this road are in fact on the wrong side and riding against traffic. I have not yet said anything to any of them about this, but I have been tempted to do so. I wondered how often everyone else sees this, and if you do, do you do anything other than just go around?
I wish this was just an occasional problem, but unfortuantly, it seems that the significant majority of bikes I see on this road are in fact on the wrong side and riding against traffic. I have not yet said anything to any of them about this, but I have been tempted to do so. I wondered how often everyone else sees this, and if you do, do you do anything other than just go around?
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I encounter wrong way and sidewalk riders all the time. I completely ignore the sidewalk riders. I usually give a quick yell to the wrong way riders, "Hey, you're on the wrong side!" while pointing them to my left. I usually pass them to my right because they are curb crawling and look dumb and confused. And often these people have no helmets or lights. Scary. How do we educate people? I just do the right thing and hope others notice...
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I'd guess it would be the same way I'd walk along the shoulder of a road with a speed limit 10mph faster. Not pleasant, but hardly suicidal.
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Yeah, but it's a LOT easy to bail over the curb when you're walking than when you're riding.
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Sometime I do it when it's getting dark and there's not a lot of cars+ when there's no bicycle track or anything, it's just easier for me to spot the cars cause I don't want to get hit by some drunk ******* so this way I can see them coming. But I use that too when I walk so it might just be some sort of habits.
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Just to answer a couple questions that came up, I was about halfway down the 1.5 mile stretch of road (so not near an intersection), and on the side of the shoulder all along the road is some gravel followed by grass.
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I tell em, you're riding on the wrong side of the road! If they pretend they didn't hear me, I yell don't be a jackass"
People at work (who don't commute by bike) tell me that they were taught to ride into opposing traffic and that it's safer.
People at work (who don't commute by bike) tell me that they were taught to ride into opposing traffic and that it's safer.
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My commute goes through a part of town where these people abound. Usually they are riding *mart specials with plastic bags hanging from the handlebars. The standard uniform appears to be denim jackets and hoodie sweatshirts, appropriately dirty. They look at me (with my reflective yellow jacket and black lycra shorts) as if I am from another planet (and perhaps I am).
I just give them a wide berth, taking the lane if I need to. There's nothing we can do to change them, so don't bother.
I just give them a wide berth, taking the lane if I need to. There's nothing we can do to change them, so don't bother.
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Mmmm...not really. The standard recommendation for pedestrians or runners is to run facing traffic; for bicyclists it is to run with traffic. Reason why = differences in speed and better ability of a runner or pedestrian to step off the road if need be.
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But most of the riders I see going contra-flow are baring moving faster than a jogging pace.
And the OP specified someone riding on a shoulder with no curb. I've never, ever needed to step of the shoulder of a road into the ditch while walking against traffic to avoid a car. Have you?
I guess it's possible, but if cars randomly careened off the road that often, I wouldn't feel too comfortable cycling WITH traffic, either.
I think it's a pretty suspect way to travel, but it doesn't surprise me these people get along just fine.
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They are the ones who feel they need to see what's coming, so I do my best to force them out into the traffic lane.
There's no point in saying anything. To a man, they universally believe that they are the ones obeying the law, and doing the "practical" thing.
The part I don't understand: how you can ride on the shoulder of a road - motorized vehicles rolling toward you at about 40 MPH - without peeing your pants. Theoretically, you can see what's coming ... but it's coming pretty damn fast.
There's no point in saying anything. To a man, they universally believe that they are the ones obeying the law, and doing the "practical" thing.
The part I don't understand: how you can ride on the shoulder of a road - motorized vehicles rolling toward you at about 40 MPH - without peeing your pants. Theoretically, you can see what's coming ... but it's coming pretty damn fast.
Right, personnally, I almost always ride counter-traffic on my commutes. On road bike expeditions or rides I always respect the law, but for commuting. nah....
When you go counter-traffic, you see what's ahead. It's up to the guy breaking the law to move his ass out of the way of the biker doing the right thing. It really irritates me bikers going on the right side who look back and pass me on my right, when I go counter-traffic. It's completely up to me to ensure that the biker has enough space to pass me. I can see the cars coming or not coming, it's up to me to let him through. Anyways, as for not peeing my pants, I try doing the same thing I do every day, except for when I pee... it works well, have you tried?
PS: not busy roads, from where I'm from, so...