Need help deciding between two bikes
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Need help deciding between two bikes
So I have gone through the stickied " New to folding bike" thread and have read through all listed forums extensively and from that I have figured out what is right for me and what I want. So this thread is less of a " help be find a new bike" and more of a "help between these two bikes" kind of thread.
So I have a question. I am looking at getting a new bike as I currently have no form of transportation. I am strictly looking at folders as I refuse to spend a large sum of money on a road bike that I know for certain will be stolen (has happened to me before and I will never let it happen again). My choices are between a Dahon Formula S18 - $1400 or a Dahon Vector P8 - $800. My problem is that the S18 is a ton of money but so is the Vector. I am more inclined to get the S18 (even tho I would have to probably put either on credit) for the following reasons (let me know what you think). I want a bike that is going to last, will have everything I need, and require minimal fuss. The S18 has that but it is very costly. The vector on the other hand does not have everything I need but it is slightly less expensive allowing me to upgrade it as I see fit over time. I am afraid to make such a huge monetary commitment to the S18 but at the same time I also feel that the vector could cost just as much if not more for all the parts plus shop time leaving me with a massive headache,time without transportation, and wondering why I didn't just purchase the S18 in the first place. What is everyone's feeling on this? Would the S18 be a wise choice or would the Vector?. Would neither at this moment in time be a wise choice as putting such a pricey item on credit is a bad idea?.
By the way as far as the credit thing goes I am only considering doing it because there would be no interest charged if paid in full within 12 months which I can certainly do.
So I have a question. I am looking at getting a new bike as I currently have no form of transportation. I am strictly looking at folders as I refuse to spend a large sum of money on a road bike that I know for certain will be stolen (has happened to me before and I will never let it happen again). My choices are between a Dahon Formula S18 - $1400 or a Dahon Vector P8 - $800. My problem is that the S18 is a ton of money but so is the Vector. I am more inclined to get the S18 (even tho I would have to probably put either on credit) for the following reasons (let me know what you think). I want a bike that is going to last, will have everything I need, and require minimal fuss. The S18 has that but it is very costly. The vector on the other hand does not have everything I need but it is slightly less expensive allowing me to upgrade it as I see fit over time. I am afraid to make such a huge monetary commitment to the S18 but at the same time I also feel that the vector could cost just as much if not more for all the parts plus shop time leaving me with a massive headache,time without transportation, and wondering why I didn't just purchase the S18 in the first place. What is everyone's feeling on this? Would the S18 be a wise choice or would the Vector?. Would neither at this moment in time be a wise choice as putting such a pricey item on credit is a bad idea?.
By the way as far as the credit thing goes I am only considering doing it because there would be no interest charged if paid in full within 12 months which I can certainly do.
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Hi,
Can you go into more detail about what you are looking for that the S18 has that the Vector does not? (and links to both bikes wouldn't be crazy either...).
Cheers,
Charles
Can you go into more detail about what you are looking for that the S18 has that the Vector does not? (and links to both bikes wouldn't be crazy either...).
Cheers,
Charles
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Here is the S18: https://www.nycewheels.com/dahon-fold...e-formula.html
Here is the Vector: https://www.nycewheels.com/dahon-fold...ector-x10.html
I just noticed that nycewheels has a vector 20 but thats out of my price range.
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Have you considered a cheaper folding bike? I got a new GreenZone value edition for only $ 200 including the bag. I am very happy with my purchase. In fact I am touring with in in southern Ontario in 2 weeks!
I first bought my folder only because my car was giving me lots of trouble and it is so much easier to take public transport with a folding bike. Now I take this bike everywhere! Because the bike was so cheap I am not as worried about it getting stolen.
I first bought my folder only because my car was giving me lots of trouble and it is so much easier to take public transport with a folding bike. Now I take this bike everywhere! Because the bike was so cheap I am not as worried about it getting stolen.
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Have you considered a cheaper folding bike? I got a new GreenZone value edition for only $ 200 including the bag. I am very happy with my purchase. In fact I am touring with in in southern Ontario in 2 weeks!
I first bought my folder only because my car was giving me lots of trouble and it is so much easier to take public transport with a folding bike. Now I take this bike everywhere! Because the bike was so cheap I am not as worried about it getting stolen.
I first bought my folder only because my car was giving me lots of trouble and it is so much easier to take public transport with a folding bike. Now I take this bike everywhere! Because the bike was so cheap I am not as worried about it getting stolen.
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Would not get a Citizen. I've seen a couple around town and had one come to my clinic,and they're pretty low end. Def not at the level of Dahon.
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In response to HGR3inOK: I live almost on the outskirts of San diego. Not quite inner city but also not far away enough that it could be considered " suburbia ". I have not had a chance to test these bikes out as it seems neigh impossible to test folders out, let alone the vector and S18 specifically. I own a old Raleigh RSW 16. I don't ride it as it needs a lot of love. That being said, I have taken it for a test ride or two and it was a rough somewhat cramped ride. So my feeling is that any bike would be a step up from the raleigh. I am 5'11 and 190 lbs so I do meet the height and weight requirements for the bike.
In response to dynaryder: I agree with all of that. Commuting on a folder can be hard enough as is so why make it even more difficult with not having the proper setup. Citizen and downtube were the two bikes ive heard of that basically just completely disintegrate from use.
In response to dynaryder: I agree with all of that. Commuting on a folder can be hard enough as is so why make it even more difficult with not having the proper setup. Citizen and downtube were the two bikes ive heard of that basically just completely disintegrate from use.
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I probably didn't do the best job of explaining what I am getting at. I guess the only thing I could equate it to is. On my raleigh it felt really awkward trying to stand up and pedal. I felt like I either had a large loss of control or I was going to go over the front end making sitting for me the preferred method of riding it. That meant it was a bit tough of a ride when going up hill on the bike as I couldn't get the same amount torque as I would of had I felt comfortable standing on that bike. Maybe modern versions of folders are not like this but the raleigh is really all I have to go off of.
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Hi,
My budget 6 speed folder, £100 + about £30 in bits,
better saddle and better tyres, has 33 to 66 gear inches,
and can commute as good as anything else, unless
you have to carry it a long way, its not that light.
It has mudguards and a rack and does the job.
95 gear inches on a folder is near pointless.
My road bike is 40 to 100.
It does hills better than the folder.
rgds, sreten.
My budget 6 speed folder, £100 + about £30 in bits,
better saddle and better tyres, has 33 to 66 gear inches,
and can commute as good as anything else, unless
you have to carry it a long way, its not that light.
It has mudguards and a rack and does the job.
95 gear inches on a folder is near pointless.
My road bike is 40 to 100.
It does hills better than the folder.
rgds, sreten.
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Hi,
Its near pointless for me. I've maxed out at 35 mph on my folder,
which is more than the road bikes 33 mph, but I'm sure it was
downhill, I wasn't pedalling, and with a strong wind behind
me I didn't realise how fast I was actually going.
I guess I should of said its near pointless for most people
and especially a bike used for commuting most of the time.
95 gear inches for most is tanking down hills at a fair pace
and effort, which is not necessary for a commuting folder.
rgds, sreten.
Its near pointless for me. I've maxed out at 35 mph on my folder,
which is more than the road bikes 33 mph, but I'm sure it was
downhill, I wasn't pedalling, and with a strong wind behind
me I didn't realise how fast I was actually going.
I guess I should of said its near pointless for most people
and especially a bike used for commuting most of the time.
95 gear inches for most is tanking down hills at a fair pace
and effort, which is not necessary for a commuting folder.
rgds, sreten.
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Hi,
My budget 6 speed folder, £100 + about £30 in bits,
better saddle and better tyres, has 33 to 66 gear inches,
and can commute as good as anything else, unless
you have to carry it a long way, its not that light.
It has mudguards and a rack and does the job.
95 gear inches on a folder is near pointless.
My road bike is 40 to 100.
It does hills better than the folder.
rgds, sreten.
My budget 6 speed folder, £100 + about £30 in bits,
better saddle and better tyres, has 33 to 66 gear inches,
and can commute as good as anything else, unless
you have to carry it a long way, its not that light.
It has mudguards and a rack and does the job.
95 gear inches on a folder is near pointless.
My road bike is 40 to 100.
It does hills better than the folder.
rgds, sreten.
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