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03-11-07, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Rev.Chuck
There is quality product made outside the US, and it cost near what US made product does.
Even in the case of bikes? Probably 90+% of the bikes you sell in your shop are made outside the US, and are "quality", but you didn't need me to tell you that.
03-11-07, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by BostonFixed
Really?
Even in the case of bikes? Probably 90+% of the bikes you sell in your shop are made outside the US, and are "quality", but you didn't need me to tell you that.
Even in the case of bikes? Probably 90+% of the bikes you sell in your shop are made outside the US, and are "quality", but you didn't need me to tell you that.
I said, " There is quality product made outside the US, and it cost near what US made product does."
Compare highend US made and highend foreign made(Or even midrange) product. The pricing and quality is pretty similar.
It is hard to compare the truly lowend, because there is so little to make the comparison with.
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03-11-07, 08:41 PM
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Quality mid-range giant hybrids and road bikes cost a lot less than a similar bike made by cannondale. Often times, 1/3 less. Quality is very similar, pricing, not so much so.
If the pricing and quality is so similar, why doesn't your shop sell mostly american made bikes?
If the pricing and quality is so similar, why doesn't your shop sell mostly american made bikes?
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Originally Posted by Rev.Chuck
The really sad thing is that these bikes are often ill conceived and poorly assembled. There is a need for basic transport bikes. The need is not met by the Denali or a full suspension Next. There really needs to be a full rigid, fat tired, multi gear bike for around $100. Unfortunately, the same market dynamics that brings us the H2 and Navigator also bring us the Denali and FS Next.
03-11-07, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by bigpedaler
no problem -- i spent some time on the '15 myself, and i know for a fact that they're apples and grapefruit (forget oranges!). i've had bike shop owners, hawking the "competition", tell me they want me working for them. they moved on when i told them what i needed per hour....
Beyond that, you're polishing turds, and you seem quite proud of how shiny you make them.
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Originally Posted by BostonFixed
If the pricing and quality is so similar, why doesn't your shop sell mostly american made bikes?
US made is a misnomer anymore. At most it means the frame was made in the US, usually it means parts have been shipped from overseas and assembled in the US. My track frame was built in the US by a Japanese guy. What does that mean?
*We were also a Trek dealer starting the late seventies. They pulled the same stunt as Cannondale
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Originally Posted by CrimsonEclipse
Aviation is my industry. I've watched it die BEFORE 9/11 due to competition and evolution.
Pilots and Mechanics and Flight Attendants are paid less. Why? The industry has changed.
Business travelers use private jets instead of First class airline seats.
Do I blame South West airlines? No. I blame the customers.
Globalization, is really the cause. Communities that don't change will die. Communities that cannot
or will not evolve will wither and die.
My job will likely be taken over by a box, and I'm ok with that. I have other skills to compensate.
Robots are also taking thousands of jobs, but I don't hate the robot companies.
As for buying American? That's total crap. I'll buy American if it is the best deal.
I stopped Buying American cars a long time ago, and I will celebrate when Ford and Chrysler
go the way of the DoDo.
If Walmart really IS that evil, they will destroy themselves. They are not all powerful.
They are, sadly, a scapegoat for people who don't want to change.
Change will happen with or without Super Stores, low skilled work will always go overseas.
Deal with it. The blame falls to ourselves. Deal with it.
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Pilots and Mechanics and Flight Attendants are paid less. Why? The industry has changed.
Business travelers use private jets instead of First class airline seats.
Do I blame South West airlines? No. I blame the customers.
Globalization, is really the cause. Communities that don't change will die. Communities that cannot
or will not evolve will wither and die.
My job will likely be taken over by a box, and I'm ok with that. I have other skills to compensate.
Robots are also taking thousands of jobs, but I don't hate the robot companies.
As for buying American? That's total crap. I'll buy American if it is the best deal.
I stopped Buying American cars a long time ago, and I will celebrate when Ford and Chrysler
go the way of the DoDo.
If Walmart really IS that evil, they will destroy themselves. They are not all powerful.
They are, sadly, a scapegoat for people who don't want to change.
Change will happen with or without Super Stores, low skilled work will always go overseas.
Deal with it. The blame falls to ourselves. Deal with it.
CE
It's nice that you don't get sucked into an ideology of buying American for purely sentimental reasons, but your alternative appears to be an absolute acceptance of amoral business forcing us all to "change or die".
Walmart is a scapegoat for people who don't want to change? wtf? No, Walmart is a lightning rod example for the kinds of business practices and forms of US capitalism that are unacceptable. I don't oppose Walmart because I don't want to change. I oppose it because it's wrong.
Though I agree with you the problem is not so much the company itself but the corporate environment and society that allow it to happen. And that does indeed come from the people and the scum they continue electing. It is a reflection of a society that values price and the short-term above all else.
Neither the company nor the people should be spared from blame.
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Hah, like our old radios and Nintendos, just smash it around a bit. ...doesnt work on my phone...but I'll keep it in mind on the wheel , Thanks.
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