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Old 11-18-14, 01:19 AM
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How can I lock my road bike safely: like to lock frame ánd wheels - I use a U-lock but it's too heavy - would a steel cable do?
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Unless you live where there is no theft and your bike is not worth the hassle for any thief then nope.
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My approach is to have a permanently mounted ring lock that always gets used and a second lock, in my case an Abus U lock, that gets used when the situation calls for it.

All locks have weight. If someone is determined to have your bike, they'll cut through any lock you can buy.

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Well I am going on holiday; and will take the bike along to ride in other areas than I used to.
To have an occasional drink or when riding and nature's calling, it may prove handy to bring in some lock.
I agree with you that when someone really wants the bike he will be able to steal it -
I was thinking about a longer steel cable thats still is a hassle to cut through.
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Originally Posted by vsopking
How can I lock my road bike safely: like to lock frame ánd wheels - I use a U-lock but it's too heavy - would a steel cable do?
If managing weight, portability, security and convenience is an issue for you, you should take a look at TiGr locks.

They have a couple of widths in a trio of lengths, but the standard length offers the ability to capture both wheels in situ, which I like. Whether you go 075 or 125 width depends on your security needs, but you do sacrifice some flexibility and ease of use with the wider one, which is StichtingArt 2 Star rated.

I have a couple that have really improved my cycling life; I don't fret over how to carry a lock anymore, always have one, like the looks, light weight and silence, and can lock up as I like to a decent variety of lock points, though large diameter posts don't work.

I highly recommend TiGr. It's not for all lockup scenarios, but if you have right mix and weight of needs, it's unbeatable.
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Originally Posted by chaadster
If managing weight, portability, security and convenience is an issue for you, you should take a look at TiGr locks.

They have a couple of widths in a trio of lengths, but the standard length offers the ability to capture both wheels in situ, which I like. Whether you go 075 or 125 width depends on your security needs, but you do sacrifice some flexibility and ease of use with the wider one, which is StichtingArt 2 Star rated.

I have a couple that have really improved my cycling life; I don't fret over how to carry a lock anymore, always have one, like the looks, light weight and silence, and can lock up as I like to a decent variety of lock points, though large diameter posts don't work.

I highly recommend TiGr. It's not for all lockup scenarios, but if you have right mix and weight of needs, it's unbeatable.
Great, appreciate your suggestion.
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Also Heavy, but easier to carry is the Abus Bordo , a folding link lock ..
I also like Abus and Axa chain and lock combinations. they have a nylon sleeve over them to not mark your paint.

TiGr being Titanium is light , but softer than steel , and bolt cutters have no problem slicing through it so quite 'beatable', defeat-able

I wouldn't let the bike out of your sight, but grab and run theft, If attached to something solid, may be resisted .

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Originally Posted by fietsbob
Also Heavy, but easier to carry is the Abus Bordo , a folding link lock ..
I also like Abus and Axa chain and lock combinations. they have a nylon sleeve over them to not mark your paint.

TiGr being Titanium is light , but softer than steel , and bolt cutters have no problem slicing through it so quite 'beatable', defeat-able

I wouldn't let the bike out of your sight, but grab and run theft, If attached to something solid, may be resisted .
Just to be clear, Abus' top Bordo, the Granit X 6500 or something like that, shares the same security rating as the TiGr 125, meaning it's equally resistant to attacks, and more secure than some Bordo models.
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I just bought a chain lock; that fits in my spare bottle. Should be OK for the matter.
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Anything that can be made by one man can be cut by another man who has the right tool. Bicycle lock selection is a matter of matching cost, weight and cumbersomeness with the perceived degree of risk. Even the cheesiest light cable lock is about 90% effective because it requires the thief to bring some kind of tool with him. As you progress from 90% effective to 99% effective you engage in a high tech game of one-up-man-ship with the thief which you will ALWAYS eventually lose. There is no 100% effective locking system.
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Originally Posted by Retro Grouch
Anything that can be made by one man can be cut by another man who has the right tool. Bicycle lock selection is a matter of matching cost, weight and cumbersomeness with the perceived degree of risk. Even the cheesiest light cable lock is about 90% effective because it requires the thief to bring some kind of tool with him. As you progress from 90% effective to 99% effective you engage in a high tech game of one-up-man-ship with the thief which you will ALWAYS eventually lose. There is no 100% effective locking system.
Agreed, I recall watching a video made in Brittan posted some time ago showing how every known lock could be had in a matter of minutes. Steel cables melted like butter with a pocket torch. U locks failed after being twisted to death. Even a combo of 2 locks failed by 1 guy in less than 3 minutes with tools you could carry in your pockets. The only suggestion they video had was to lock it in an area that gets high traffic where a brazen theif will be less likely to try and steal it.
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Originally Posted by Retro Grouch
Anything that can be made by one man can be cut by another man who has the right tool. Bicycle lock selection is a matter of matching cost, weight and cumbersomeness with the perceived degree of risk. Even the cheesiest light cable lock is about 90% effective because it requires the thief to bring some kind of tool with him. As you progress from 90% effective to 99% effective you engage in a high tech game of one-up-man-ship with the thief which you will ALWAYS eventually lose. There is no 100% effective locking system.
That's what it boils down to, for sure.

I recently decided to start riding my bike to the YMCA for workouts and started researching locks and came to the identical conclusion. I also called my homeowner's insurance agent and asked him about what kind of coverage I had in case my bike were stolen. I don't know whether I have an exceptionally good policy (Farmers) or what, but according to him I am 100% covered for full replacement if my bike is stolen--anywhere, anytime under any circumstances. That was very reassuring, so I'm going with a minimal cable/padlock system since the risk at the Y is very low to start with.

Update: I spoke with the manager at the Y and they are going to let me bring my bike inside the building too--as long as it's not muddy/wet. All good.

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@Porschefan 928? I roll an '88 and a Murf Stage III supersharked '90!
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@Porschefan 928? I roll an '88 and a Murf Stage III supersharked '90!
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Yep--that's an '88 S4 (chassis) with an '87 "oil squirter" engine from Devek after original owner blew up his. Long story--detailed on the 928 forum at Rennlist. Your '90 with the Murf Stage III must be a true beast! My family is from SE Michigan....small world.

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Hi Chaadster,

Yep--that's an '88 S4 (chassis) with an '87 "oil squirter" engine from Devek after original owner blew up his. Long story--detailed on the 928 forum at Rennlist. Your '90 with the Murf Stage III must be a true beast! My family is from SE Michigan....small world.

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