Debating going clipless on Hybrid
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MHO, you are way over thinking this non problem....
You get used to them fairly easily, and can feel the spd mech, there or not! It's just a matter of repositioning your foot once, to get the right side up, and clip in automatically.
I've been using a set for years, and it really is a non issue.
The main complaint seems to be what side is up, and it's just a non issue, as you can pedal on either side, with any kind of shoe.
You get used to them fairly easily, and can feel the spd mech, there or not! It's just a matter of repositioning your foot once, to get the right side up, and clip in automatically.
I've been using a set for years, and it really is a non issue.
The main complaint seems to be what side is up, and it's just a non issue, as you can pedal on either side, with any kind of shoe.
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MHO, you are way over thinking this non problem....
You get used to them fairly easily, and can feel the spd mech, there or not! It's just a matter of repositioning your foot once, to get the right side up, and clip in automatically.
I've been using a set for years, and it really is a non issue.
The main complaint seems to be what side is up, and it's just a non issue, as you can pedal on either side, with any kind of shoe.
You get used to them fairly easily, and can feel the spd mech, there or not! It's just a matter of repositioning your foot once, to get the right side up, and clip in automatically.
I've been using a set for years, and it really is a non issue.
The main complaint seems to be what side is up, and it's just a non issue, as you can pedal on either side, with any kind of shoe.
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Back in the 1980s people used toe straps. Bike stores sold shoes designed to work well with toe straps. I bought a pair and still use them today. Last year I tried clipless. I kept them on for about 6 weeks because I wanted to make sure I became fluent in clipping in and out in all situations and learned how to best use them. They worked fine. But the didn't work any better than my toe straps (with my toe strap designed shoes). So I went back to toe straps because the shoes for the toe straps are perfectly comfortable off a bike whereas the the shoe with the spd was not comfortable off a bike.
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Back in the 1980s people used toe straps. Bike stores sold shoes designed to work well with toe straps. I bought a pair and still use them today. Last year I tried clipless. I kept them on for about 6 weeks because I wanted to make sure I became fluent in clipping in and out in all situations and learned how to best use them. They worked fine. But the didn't work any better than my toe straps (with my toe strap designed shoes). So I went back to toe straps because the shoes for the toe straps are perfectly comfortable off a bike whereas the the shoe with the spd was not comfortable off a bike.
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On the street, no, easy enough to pedal out of an intersection even on the SPD side and then flip them over once out of the intersection. Offroad, I hate 'em -- fooling around with trying to find the right side and hard soled shoes slipping off the platform = not a great time, and a few low speed crashes.
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For me, since I was a toeclip user, I would not ride my bike without some type of clip. So, there was no point in single sided SPDs (one can't drag unused toeclips around).
For SPDs (and others), there are adapters. The Winwood Decksters are available for putting a platform on SPD pedals.
I snagged a pair of Winwood Instep Toeclip adapters (somewhat rare now). I didn't think they were that comfortable to use, but I have them just in case I choose to go without biking shoes.
For SPDs (and others), there are adapters. The Winwood Decksters are available for putting a platform on SPD pedals.
I snagged a pair of Winwood Instep Toeclip adapters (somewhat rare now). I didn't think they were that comfortable to use, but I have them just in case I choose to go without biking shoes.
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I use dual-sided Flat/SPD pedals for my only bike which I use for everything, commuting, fun rides with other cyclists, and rides with family.
I love being clipped in, as I simply feel more connected to the bike, and I feel like it's more efficient. but I also love the flexibility of not needing to be:
a. If I am taking off at an intersection, I can just pedal a few strokes with one foot on the flat side if I happen to hit the wrong side of the pedal...no big deal.
b. If I am taking a family ride with a small child on the back of my bike...I don't clip in for safety reasons... so I'm much less likely to fall over and bonk his/her head (I have 2 kids that size).
I love being clipped in, as I simply feel more connected to the bike, and I feel like it's more efficient. but I also love the flexibility of not needing to be:
a. If I am taking off at an intersection, I can just pedal a few strokes with one foot on the flat side if I happen to hit the wrong side of the pedal...no big deal.
b. If I am taking a family ride with a small child on the back of my bike...I don't clip in for safety reasons... so I'm much less likely to fall over and bonk his/her head (I have 2 kids that size).
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...That said...If I had 2 bikes...one for "serious" rides, and one for casual family rides, I would likely have full clipless pedals on one and flats on the other.
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Been riding my SPD pedals/shoes every day for a week now (first time in my life going clipless). Really liking the feel ... learning curve was very fast and easy, very comfortable and second nature now, and still have not fallen! At one point I was climbing a long hill and getting tired, and realized I was forgetting to pull up on the pedals ... once I started pulling up I felt like I had a second wind! Perhaps in my head since many studies insist that clipless (and pulling up) adds no power, and does not reduce energy expended, but it worked for me!
Today however I was going to the park (a block away) with my daughter, and figured I would go with running shoes and use the platform side of the pedal. A block away turned into a half hour ride, and I felt naked with the sneakers! Just felt all wrong ... the pedal was uncomfortably pushing into on the ball of my foot! How exactly am I supposed to place my foot on the pedals again? Why did the crank just brush against my ankle? Why are my feet squiggling around? My feet even hurt a tiny bit at the end of the trip!
Wow, I now understand that "once you go clipless, you can never go back" sentiment. Now I know what I have been missing all this time!
Today however I was going to the park (a block away) with my daughter, and figured I would go with running shoes and use the platform side of the pedal. A block away turned into a half hour ride, and I felt naked with the sneakers! Just felt all wrong ... the pedal was uncomfortably pushing into on the ball of my foot! How exactly am I supposed to place my foot on the pedals again? Why did the crank just brush against my ankle? Why are my feet squiggling around? My feet even hurt a tiny bit at the end of the trip!
Wow, I now understand that "once you go clipless, you can never go back" sentiment. Now I know what I have been missing all this time!
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Congratulations on the new clips (clipless)!!!
And not falling on your face in front of your daughter... or did you skip that part?
And not falling on your face in front of your daughter... or did you skip that part?
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Well yesterday I hit some beach sand next to the trail, rear wheel starts digging in, bike tilts, I unclip that foot getting ready to brace ... give a power stroke to try and get out, bike flips the other way ... and down I go stuck to bike on top of me.
Daughter and wife laughing their heads off ... especially since I gave grief to my wife the day before for locking her rear wheel on a steep loose hill, and eating dirt (as well as a couple of leafs) on her way down!
I guese it is when you are caught by surprise, and only have half a second to react while the brain is too busy calculating other parameters ... that the command to unclip never goes through!
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So here I was thinking "nonsense, that everybody will fall at least once with clipless." So easy to anticipate clipping out before stopping. So easy to just twist out, even after tightening them up a bit.
Well yesterday I hit some beach sand next to the trail, rear wheel starts digging in, bike tilts, I unclip that foot getting ready to brace ... give a power stroke to try and get out, bike flips the other way ... and down I go stuck to bike on top of me.
Daughter and wife laughing their heads off ... especially since I gave grief to my wife the day before for locking her rear wheel on a steep loose hill, and eating dirt (as well as a couple of leafs) on her way down!
I guese it is when you are caught by surprise, and only have half a second to react while the brain is too busy calculating other parameters ... that the command to unclip never goes through!
Well yesterday I hit some beach sand next to the trail, rear wheel starts digging in, bike tilts, I unclip that foot getting ready to brace ... give a power stroke to try and get out, bike flips the other way ... and down I go stuck to bike on top of me.
Daughter and wife laughing their heads off ... especially since I gave grief to my wife the day before for locking her rear wheel on a steep loose hill, and eating dirt (as well as a couple of leafs) on her way down!
I guese it is when you are caught by surprise, and only have half a second to react while the brain is too busy calculating other parameters ... that the command to unclip never goes through!
LOL! sorry for the fall, but welcome to the club. Now whenever I get somewhere where it may be stop and go, I unclip.
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Been riding my SPD pedals/shoes every day for a week now (first time in my life going clipless). Really liking the feel ... learning curve was very fast and easy, very comfortable and second nature now, and still have not fallen! At one point I was climbing a long hill and getting tired, and realized I was forgetting to pull up on the pedals ... once I started pulling up I felt like I had a second wind! Perhaps in my head since many studies insist that clipless (and pulling up) adds no power, and does not reduce energy expended, but it worked for me!
Today however I was going to the park (a block away) with my daughter, and figured I would go with running shoes and use the platform side of the pedal. A block away turned into a half hour ride, and I felt naked with the sneakers! Just felt all wrong ... the pedal was uncomfortably pushing into on the ball of my foot! How exactly am I supposed to place my foot on the pedals again? Why did the crank just brush against my ankle? Why are my feet squiggling around? My feet even hurt a tiny bit at the end of the trip!
Wow, I now understand that "once you go clipless, you can never go back" sentiment. Now I know what I have been missing all this time!
Today however I was going to the park (a block away) with my daughter, and figured I would go with running shoes and use the platform side of the pedal. A block away turned into a half hour ride, and I felt naked with the sneakers! Just felt all wrong ... the pedal was uncomfortably pushing into on the ball of my foot! How exactly am I supposed to place my foot on the pedals again? Why did the crank just brush against my ankle? Why are my feet squiggling around? My feet even hurt a tiny bit at the end of the trip!
Wow, I now understand that "once you go clipless, you can never go back" sentiment. Now I know what I have been missing all this time!
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So here I was thinking "nonsense, that everybody will fall at least once with clipless." So easy to anticipate clipping out before stopping. So easy to just twist out, even after tightening them up a bit.
Well yesterday I hit some beach sand next to the trail, rear wheel starts digging in, bike tilts, I unclip that foot getting ready to brace ... give a power stroke to try and get out, bike flips the other way ... and down I go stuck to bike on top of me.
Well yesterday I hit some beach sand next to the trail, rear wheel starts digging in, bike tilts, I unclip that foot getting ready to brace ... give a power stroke to try and get out, bike flips the other way ... and down I go stuck to bike on top of me.
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I got the SM-PD22 flat pedal cover kit (plastic/resin platforms that clip into the pedals), going to use those for when I switch to heavier shoes for colder temps.
EDIT: Clipless pedals are awesome if you want to go faster of flat ground or if you want an easier time with hills. I have them on my Sirrus Elite, realised I was getting them after doing the 5 Borough Bike Tour in NYC.
EDIT: Clipless pedals are awesome if you want to go faster of flat ground or if you want an easier time with hills. I have them on my Sirrus Elite, realised I was getting them after doing the 5 Borough Bike Tour in NYC.
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