Living car free, 5 year predictions
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Maybe it would be made as part of a mold-poured mag rim with screw-in cartridge-bearing hubs, similar to bottom-brackets. I thought mag rims ended 30 years ago but I saw some recently advertised online so they're apparently still a viable technology. Not sure what the benefits and drawback are.
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I can envision a high pressure foam tire, that would be relatively puncture resistant and somewhat able to distribute a load. The exterior would be like an ordinary tire, and the interior would be a bit like tiny bubble wrap or an Aero bar. Each time it got punctured by a nail or whatever, it would lose a bit of pressure, due to the collapse of some interior microcells, until eventually it would have to be discarded, due to softness or bumpiness. Not sure how you would mount it on the rim - maybe it would have to be done at a shop with special equipment, as it would have to be very non-stretchy so it wouldn't come off on a sharply banked turn. Maybe it would be heated to mount it and then get tighter when it cools off, or maybe the foam would be injected after the outer shell was mounted, similar to slime.
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I don't know that it's 'required,' but someone mentioned the difficulty of getting it on the rim, so it occurred to me that someone might just manufacture single-piece wheels with tires, all made within the same single mold. Maybe the material for the tire would be different from that used for the (mag) wheel, but I'm sure both plastics could be injected into the same mold somehow so they are bonded from the moment of formation, instead of having to stretch the tire/tube over the rim after both are made separately.
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I really don't get why you have a problem with people speculating about the future. I'm personally not wishing for or dreaming of solid tires, but I can see there would be a demand for them if they could be made workable.
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"Envision" means it's possible. I cannot envision robots gluing tubeless tires onto conventional rims, for example, because I don't know how that would be possible. When I say I 'envision' it, it means I think it's possible and not a bad idea.
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You needs to free your imagination...
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Ain't you the fellow who keeps badgering other posters to stick to your script for this thread and limit their posts on this thread to 5 year predictions? How does using imagination, wishful thinking and daydreams to conjure i.e. envision about what might be possible at some vague distant point in time fit your script?
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...speculating as in, the forming of a theory or conjecture without firm evidence--e.g., driving cars leads to catastrophic global warming so during the next five years we will return to harnessing human power as our primary means of transportation-- a la, the rickshaw and gondolas; and, some of us heretics will continue to enjoy riding road bikes for exercise and entertainment.
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A 20 year time span is a different game. Looking back, one can usually see many things widely used today which they could not have envisioned two decades prior. But not much happens over a 5 year span that's really startling. Over the shorter time frame most innovation follows a more predictable path. I can't think of anything today that I would consider an impossible or even improbably change from only 5 years ago. Technology has gotten incrementally better, but there's nothing really stunning.
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Ain't you the fellow who keeps badgering other posters to stick to your script for this thread and limit their posts on this thread to 5 year predictions? How does using imagination, wishful thinking and daydreams to conjure i.e. envision about what might be possible at some vague distant point in time fit your script?
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"Hostile" is your loaded description of opinions (or "gentle reminders") that differ from your own, "futuristic discussions" is your fanciful description of the high fiving amongst a few members of the LCF forum to support each others' WAGs.
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I love opinions that differ from mine, quite few of which are offered in the thread. I got the idea that you were hostile from your tone, not your content.
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Solid tires dude... Airless dude...Already available...
https://www.specialized.com/us/en/bi...s/alibi/118326
https://www.specialized.com/us/en/bi...s/alibi/118326
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Solid tires dude... Airless dude...Already available...
https://www.specialized.com/us/en/bi...s/alibi/118326
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW-zaupvBrk
https://www.specialized.com/us/en/bi...s/alibi/118326
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW-zaupvBrk
It's true that solid tires have not caught on in the past, but the same has happened with lots of innovations that didn't succeed until the technology was good enough or other conditions were right, an obvious example being the electric car, which has been lurking in the wings for over 100 years, with many false starts, and is now finally breaking through.
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And I can "envision" people 20 years ago saying stuff like you are saying is going/would be totally IMPOSSIBLE in their near future... Everyone including 10 year-olds having a phone, connected to the internet, talking for "free" and seeing the other person on skype around the world, teenagers coming home after borrowing their dads car and the dad saying WTF did you do... ? I see you went somewhere totally different, than you said you were going to, you did over the speed limit most of your drive, you did... Blah blah blah...
You needs to free your imagination...
You needs to free your imagination...
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Came across some videos about tubeless/airless tires for bikes. They're called ERWs. The first video is more of a polished corporate demonstration video, while the second shows someone trying out some prototypes at a local bike shop:
and here's a CNN report about loop-wheels (instead of spokes)
and here's a CNN report about loop-wheels (instead of spokes)
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I admit that I didn't foresee Skype either, but that is because I didn't understand html as a latent potential of digitization. In fact, it was a long time before I understood how CDs relied on digitization. A lot of clarity is gained by understanding the basic science, from quantum mechanics up. Some things are really impossible, while others are possible but unfathomable by people due to cultural assumptions. Freeing your imagination from cultural assumption clarifies future vision, indeed, but freeing it from the laws of physics/nature only leads to crazy ideas like flying unicorns genetically engineered from fairy dust . . . and limitless energy/industry/consumption/development without climate change or other negative side-effects.
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Prediction
Prediction: chain oil will be distributed in single-use packets like those for condiments. The outside of the packet will be covered with paper-towel like material to wipe off excess oil after applying.
It will be handy to keep one or two of these packets on your bike for those unexpected moments when the squeaking begins.
It will be handy to keep one or two of these packets on your bike for those unexpected moments when the squeaking begins.
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Prediction: chain oil will be distributed in single-use packets like those for condiments. The outside of the packet will be covered with paper-towel like material to wipe off excess oil after applying.
It will be handy to keep one or two of these packets on your bike for those unexpected moments when the squeaking begins.
It will be handy to keep one or two of these packets on your bike for those unexpected moments when the squeaking begins.
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Jurassic Park was originally published in 1990 and was considered realistic sci fi. The double-helical structure of DNA molecules was revealed to Watson and Crick in 1953.