I think my z1 is dying
05-22-04, 11:02 PM
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Well I think I am pushing my old 2002 fork too hard. It has this weird feel to it and I am hoping someone has some experience. The symtoms are as follows
1 - Lift front end sometimes just doesn't lift. This is not a rider error it just seems like my rebound is fubar (I preload the fork for wheelie drops and manuals etc...)
2 - Other times when I do get the front end up it thuds. This is totally new for me as the hsvc is supposed to stop that. It feels more like my jrT then a good z1
An addon point to 1 and 2...other times it is fine. The rebound and compression feel fine. I hate inconsistency in my bike.
3 - Flex has increased...I can't see any cracks (2002 was KNOWN for bad forks all around from marz) but doing the wheel in between the legs test I can no touch the wheel on the lower. This may be normal for most forks but this fork I could not do it to before the past week or so...
4 - during high speed bumps my fork just doesn't seem to be reacting. In the same instant where I used to always have extra travel to preload and manual through rough stuff I can't get the front up at all. It just feels dead.
So, in seeing the symtoms I now believe my fork is dying (seeing it written sure puts it in perspective) but I am wondering if anyone has any experience and can offer suggestions? I have emailed marz, not looking for a warranty but trying to see if they still offer the tradeins on the 2002 models. I hope they get back to me.
cheers
1 - Lift front end sometimes just doesn't lift. This is not a rider error it just seems like my rebound is fubar (I preload the fork for wheelie drops and manuals etc...)
2 - Other times when I do get the front end up it thuds. This is totally new for me as the hsvc is supposed to stop that. It feels more like my jrT then a good z1
An addon point to 1 and 2...other times it is fine. The rebound and compression feel fine. I hate inconsistency in my bike.
3 - Flex has increased...I can't see any cracks (2002 was KNOWN for bad forks all around from marz) but doing the wheel in between the legs test I can no touch the wheel on the lower. This may be normal for most forks but this fork I could not do it to before the past week or so...
4 - during high speed bumps my fork just doesn't seem to be reacting. In the same instant where I used to always have extra travel to preload and manual through rough stuff I can't get the front up at all. It just feels dead.
So, in seeing the symtoms I now believe my fork is dying (seeing it written sure puts it in perspective) but I am wondering if anyone has any experience and can offer suggestions? I have emailed marz, not looking for a warranty but trying to see if they still offer the tradeins on the 2002 models. I hope they get back to me.
cheers
05-22-04, 11:38 PM
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Sounds like fatigue to me bro. In any case here ya go.
ATTENTION FREE RIDERS, EXTREME FREE RIDERS, DIRT JUMPERS AND URBAN RIDERS
If you have misused or abused your forks, or if you have landed improperly in the past, Marzocchi will upgrade:
- Z3, Z3.5 or Z5 forks (30mm MY 2001-2002) to new model year 2003 DJI or DJIII forks
- Z1 30mm (MY 2001-2002) to new model year 2003 Z1 FR 32mm
at a discounted price, regardless of whether your forks show any signs of fatigue, damage, impacts, cracking, creaking, leaking, etc.
Contact Marzocchi or see your nearest authorized Marzocchi retailer for additional information.
https://www.marzocchi.com/template/de...IDOggetto=2801
ATTENTION FREE RIDERS, EXTREME FREE RIDERS, DIRT JUMPERS AND URBAN RIDERS
If you have misused or abused your forks, or if you have landed improperly in the past, Marzocchi will upgrade:
- Z3, Z3.5 or Z5 forks (30mm MY 2001-2002) to new model year 2003 DJI or DJIII forks
- Z1 30mm (MY 2001-2002) to new model year 2003 Z1 FR 32mm
at a discounted price, regardless of whether your forks show any signs of fatigue, damage, impacts, cracking, creaking, leaking, etc.
Contact Marzocchi or see your nearest authorized Marzocchi retailer for additional information.
https://www.marzocchi.com/template/de...IDOggetto=2801
05-22-04, 11:50 PM
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Yeah I have emailed norco (unfortunately the marz distributor of canada)...norco sucks...I sure hope I get a response...
05-22-04, 11:55 PM
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Marzocchi is pretty good about it. I cracked a crown on a Z-5 awhile back and they replaced the crown at cost. They offered to replace the fork, but the fork is fine, so they upgraded the crown.
05-25-04, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Maelstrom
Yeah I have emailed norco (unfortunately the marz distributor of canada)...norco sucks...I sure hope I get a response...
05-25-04, 10:19 AM
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yes...they are affiliated with airbomb in the states. I am 90% sure they bring in direct and bypass the evil ones.
05-25-04, 11:39 AM
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I was thinking of this again just now, for comparisons sake an 04 Marathon SL is about 550 USD and from Norco is a mind shattering 1300 CDN!!!! Screw you Norco.
I got a 'good' deal on my 03 MX Pro ETA as an old stock clear out, 450 cdn down from 750 retail, however my 'good' deal roughly equals the US retail price.
I got a 'good' deal on my 03 MX Pro ETA as an old stock clear out, 450 cdn down from 750 retail, however my 'good' deal roughly equals the US retail price.
05-25-04, 12:22 PM
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I buy 80% of my stuff from bikeroom. VEry cheap compared to everywhere. The z1 fr is 680$ I think. Thats dang cheap. Besides I have purchased enought through Dave where I sometimes get better deals.
We get killed by Norco here.
We get killed by Norco here.
05-25-04, 04:07 PM
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Maybe everyone on here don't know that you were talking in north of the border dollars (or what ever y'all have)... Didn't know it was soooo easy to piss some people off .... You & slcPUNK21 are too easy.... 
Ratt's ass?
Ratt's ass?
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05-25-04, 04:17 PM
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Canadian bro...canadian 
...600 into canadian is close to 900...
and personally..I don't give a rats ass if you doubt my posts...
...600 into canadian is close to 900...and personally..I don't give a rats ass if you doubt my posts...
05-25-04, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Xtreme Biker
Here's a site that's almost $100 less than where you shop.... I'm starting to doubt what you say in your posts Dude....
https://www.jensonusa.com/store/product.aspx?i=FK703A18
Under $600 w/ FREE S/H, and NO TAX....
Here's another for $550.... DUH
https://store.airbomb.com/ba/asp/ic.F...b/Itemdesc.htm
https://www.jensonusa.com/store/product.aspx?i=FK703A18
Under $600 w/ FREE S/H, and NO TAX....
Here's another for $550.... DUH
https://store.airbomb.com/ba/asp/ic.F...b/Itemdesc.htm
and I'm doubting you have a brain at all ..... ummmm just incase you noticed or didn't... things cost different amounts in different countries cause of something called the "exchange" rate.... you might want to look into that before you bash someone for something you don't know jack about...
Here got something for you......it's a.........
CLUE
Got it? Thought so
05-25-04, 08:43 PM
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Please contibute something...
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You know Mael, with your fat arse and the way you ride it is surprising the fork lasted this long
To bad you did not post this a week ago. Just sold my 2003 Z1 freeride for 250$. Guess you should be getting that Z150 now
To bad you did not post this a week ago. Just sold my 2003 Z1 freeride for 250$. Guess you should be getting that Z150 now
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Hey Mael did you try that tape suggestion I gave you the other day? did you find anything out from that?
And you better not be riding the mountain without your camera!
And you better not be riding the mountain without your camera!
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Originally Posted by dirtbikedude
You know Mael, with your fat arse and the way you ride it is surprising the fork lasted this long
To bad you did not post this a week ago. Just sold my 2003 Z1 freeride for 250$. Guess you should be getting that Z150 now
To bad you did not post this a week ago. Just sold my 2003 Z1 freeride for 250$. Guess you should be getting that Z150 now
Hopefully my ****** won't break this one
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Originally Posted by slcpunk21
Hey Mael did you try that tape suggestion I gave you the other day? did you find anything out from that?
And you better not be riding the mountain without your camera!
And you better not be riding the mountain without your camera!
...Tommorow I go up the mountain for the first time
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Originally Posted by slcpunk21
Hey Mael did you try that tape suggestion I gave you the other day? did you find anything out from that?
And you better not be riding the mountain without your camera!
And you better not be riding the mountain without your camera!
Dude, where have YOU been?
Where you hanging your hat these days?
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05-26-04, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by a2psyklnut
Dude, where have YOU been?
Where you hanging your hat these days?
L8R
Where you hanging your hat these days?
L8R
When in the world are you gonna get an IM service so we can chat? HAHA...
oh and currently working on a floating brake setup I am going to test out soon, basically the same as all the others.. yet alot different. Hope it works as well as it should..
What about you? what neck of the woods are you guys in? Hows all the bikes lately? Did that bike shop thing ever pan out for you? Talk to you soon, I'll hang out here a bit more often so we can keep in toutch... or get IM and we can BS all day.. haha.
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Ok, I got all excited because MArzocchi has this tradein. I can tradein my 2002 z1 fr for a 2004 z1 fr for 50% of cost. Ths is a great deal, would have cost me 300cdn to do. Props to marzocchi for recognizing the problem and dealing with it.
Bring in the all knowing Norco. They change the rules as usual. They only allow a tradein to dj1 or dj 2 (which is a signifigant downgrade as it increases weight AND removes the damping) and it costs 260 cdn. Norco once again can kiss my ass. Thank god I have friends in the states. I will bypass norco as much as possible by buying outside canada (norco controls most of the distribution in canada). Norco doesn't deserve any of my money. (normally this wouldn't bug me seeing as I did abuse the fork but marzocchi realizes the 2002 line of forks suck and is taking trades on them themselves, norco is breaking the rules)...
For me this rules out ever buying a norco even. Oh well.
Bring in the all knowing Norco. They change the rules as usual. They only allow a tradein to dj1 or dj 2 (which is a signifigant downgrade as it increases weight AND removes the damping) and it costs 260 cdn. Norco once again can kiss my ass. Thank god I have friends in the states. I will bypass norco as much as possible by buying outside canada (norco controls most of the distribution in canada). Norco doesn't deserve any of my money. (normally this wouldn't bug me seeing as I did abuse the fork but marzocchi realizes the 2002 line of forks suck and is taking trades on them themselves, norco is breaking the rules)...
For me this rules out ever buying a norco even. Oh well.
