doodad

One of the LBS are selling a Gary Fisher Tassajara with discs in a discount package for US$600. Normally they are in the order of US$800.

The largest size the Tassajara comes in is a 21". I am 6'4" (but not heavy for my size) so require one of the longer frames. Because of the Genesis geometry and the longer top tube I am finding that with the seat set up high to the appropriate height for me, I am stretching a long way forward and downwards to a position what I find is fairly low and seemingly uncomfortable (I might get used to such a position?).

The LBS have gone out of their way to try and accommodate a configuration that might be suitable. They have inserted a longer and more upright stem and handle bars that are also higher. When riding the bike, I find the position more comfortable but the front appears to be lighter (eg easier to lift the front wheel in the air) and it does seem to lose some of the direct feel of its steering that the lower, flatter stem gives.

What I wanted to know was is the modification likely to cause any issues. Or, at what point does the modification compromise the performance of the bike to a point where I should be looking at alternatives.

My riding is standard off road trails and bike paths. I am looking for a good quality package with a tight feel.

I'm new to this so any feedback, comments or advice is appreciated.

cheers,

ljbike

I would suggest that if you do not feel comfortable on the bike, then it is the wrong bike for you no matter how good the guys at the shop are or how much money you'll be saving.

Having bought an illfitting bike my first time out because it was cheap and because it was good quality, I learned to ride it, but it was never the pleasure my second bike became because that one fit so much better.

It's really your deceision to make, but the frame seems too small for a guy your height.

doodad

Thanks for the reply.

What I am saying is that the bike in the original configuration feels uncomfortable. With the mods it is feeling okay. Is this bad???

I test rode a Trek 4400 which was 22.5" but that felt big and clumsy. I aslo rode a Giant Yukon 23" which felt okay but the componentry felt sloppy. All of Giants better mtb's (Iguana upwards) only go to 21". So what is one to do?

It is hard to test ride these bigger bike as the bike shops don't shift many so they do not like keeping them on the floor. This makes it difficult to try and know which bike is comfortable.

Richard D

I think comfort is the pre-requisite factor in deciding to buy a bike, and only you can decide that. If stem and bar modifications make the bike comfortable then that's great. It took me two replacement stems for me to be truly happy with my bike - I found a long low stem whilst lightening the front slowed the steering down too much and gave me back ache. I finally settled for a short very upright stem (70mm 17 deg) and 2" riser bars. This gives a more upright position than many would recommend but I find it comfortable, and steering is quick and responsive. You might find a shorter higher position better.

Your back and shoulder muscles will adjust a little with riding, but don't get something that is truly uncomfortable to start with.

Richard

Rich

Hi Doodad,

A friend of mine is 6ft 5" and rides a 19" Kona with the saddle up pretty high.

I'd suggest not going for something like a 21" or 23" best, as for manouveribility, you can't beat a slightly smaller bike.

I'm 6ft and ride an 18" Kona, which I can flick around. I could happily ride a 19" or 21" bike, but whenever I do, it doesn't feel right.

I think as you said previously, if you're happy with the bike and it's set up then go for it

Cheers

Rich

doodad

Thanks for the comments. I agree with making sure the bike is comfortable although on a short test ride this is not always that easy. I would imagine problems like back aches and the like only set in after hours? on the bike.

Interesting that most LBS's point me to the big bikes which as is suggested compromises the manouverability.

cheers,

a2psyklnut

Just an idea!!! Since you're looking at the Gary Fishers. Have you seen any of the new 29 inchers? We've got one in the shop where I work on Saturdays and it's pretty nice. These are great for bigger riders and may be just what you need. I've been told that the 29's are selling so well, that next year all models starting with the HooKooEKoo will be available in the 29 format! Might be worth your while to buy a used bike (save $$$$) and get a 29 when they're more readily available!

L8R

doodad

Interesting idea a2. I did not know they were around. I would definitely be interested in trying the larger wheel size. I notice that the standover height of the 29" model is lower than the current Genesis series.

I have been keeping my eye on the second hand market without success thus far. If I could find something suitable, secondhand is okay by me.