kps88

halfway through...you are absolutely correct.

Mike F

I read this book after it was announced that LA was going on Oprah. There was still apart of me that thought LA was being set up, blah blah blah. I was astounded at what I read. I kept thinking.. Tyler has an axe to grind, this cant be true. Well... Its all unfolding pretty much as he wrote it. Betsy and Frankie, Emma O'Reilly. the Aspen incident, unrelenting character assassinations...Everybody was doping but LA destroyed people for doing as he did or people like Lemond who spoke the truth against him.

Look at the way LA is trying to put the all the bad feelings on Lemond in the Velo News article. It sounds as if he is blaming Lemond for all the hard feelings and spinning it as if Lemond doesnt want to contribute to the sport moving forward. He is a sociopath. In LA's words... LA is a "Choad".

qclabrat

I was a huge fan of Lemond as a kid, actually had a scrapbook of his career till I moved a few years ago

Lemond never reached the fame or capitalized in the sport like Lance, Lance stole his thunder and later his business

I'm glad he continued to push the doping angle, but the whining really put me off, even now

For some reason Lance never connected to me, yes he was a dominate athlete in his time, his arrogance always rubbed at me

Maybe because I saw him like a Hinault and we know how that relation went with Lemond as well....

Campag4life

Lindsey Vonn and Tiger Woods. A match made in heaven. Handsome btw has nothing to do with having a hot wife...lol. You see the wives of the PGA players? Btw, years ago I was 10 feet from Tiger's wife at a golf tournament when they were dating. She was the hottest girl at the tournament.
As to Lindsey, what can you say about her? With Tiger's track record of ravaging the landscape and his well documented selfishness and cold heartedness, she basically gets what she deserves and is just like him.

Campag4life

Lance is or rather was more bankable than Lemond for a couple of reasons. Lemond was a nice looking guy but not nearly as articulate as Lance publically. He doesn't come across as solid. I believe this had little to do with Lemond's intellect, it was just the way he presented himself. Its pretty obvious who the nicer guy was. Lemond is known to be very sensitive and caring guy and Lance is as ruthless and cold blooded as they come. The only other athlete that comes to mind like that I know of is Tiger Woods. I am sure there are others as well. Lemond is the classic nice guy with inordinate talent that had a bit of bad luck in life...especially with his hunting accident.
Lemond at full song at the top of his game was magic. The best. Armstrong also had extraordinary talent and he got what he deserved.

JohnJ80

Exactly right.

Both were extraordinary talents but they made different choices. One went to the right side, the other went to the dark side.

Greg LeMond lives around here. His reputation in the community is a good one. There are many one on one stories of what a decent human he is.

J.

fietsbob

Any Guesses why Trek wanted nothing to do with Bikes bearing his Name after dealing with him for a while?

Jed19

You must really hate Tiger Woods, eh? Did he do anything to you personally?

And why the smarmy comment about his relationship with Lindsey Vonn? And his ex-wife being hot or not does not mean she was a good/great wife to him. Only Tiger and his therapist knows why he strayed with so many women. And adultery is almost always not a crime. I mean, do not patronize whatever the guy is selling, but trashing him and his girlfriend is really low.

Mike F

Because Lemond was telling the truth about LA - using the "D" word while LA was bringing much more attention ($) to TREK bikes. By telling the truth about LA, Lemond bit the hand that was feeding him.

Trek seeks to dump LeMond

fietsbob

The screwing them over bad faith business dealing is not nothing ... from your Link

2.5 Million dollars worth !

thehammerdog

Reached for comment, Armstrong replied via text message: “Greg was an idol of mine growing up, as I have stated many times before. Somewhere along the way we got sideways — I think it was about 15 years ago. I haven’t spoken to him since then. I’m sure my results on the road and actions off the road were troublesome to him along the way, and for that I am sorry. But honestly, at this point, isn’t it better that we all move forward and stop the rhetoric, in order to build a better future for cycling? I’m in. Anyone else?”
Asked if that would qualify as Armstrong’s first apology to LeMond, he replied, “I tried two years ago. He wouldn’t take my call.”

Read more at LeMond on Armstrong: ?If anybody deserves a lifetime ban, it?s this guy? - VeloNews.com

Mike F

That Trek processed and shipped to him over 13 years - leading the Judge Kyle to strike that claim.

“(E)ven if LeMond’s use of the free and employee-priced bicycles constitutes a breach of contract, such a breach has been waived,” Kyle wrote. “Trek processed each of LeMond’s bicycle orders and has never previously asserted a breach of the Sublicense Agreement resulting from these orders.”

Trek, LeMond score stage wins on long road toward trial - VeloNews.com

I think the funniest part is when Lemond complained he didnt get his 6 free bike a year

kps88

I'm guessing they are far beyond an "apology" from a turd like LA.

mprelaw

Lance should pay him (and a few others) rent for the space he's taking up in their heads. If you think Greg's obsessed, check out Betsy's social media sites.

Move on, already. Lance's ban isn't getting rescinded as long as Travis Tygart runs USADA. Enjoy your new line of bikes, go fly fishing, or even hunting as long as you don't have to sneak off into the bushes to take a leak with an armed moron on the loose who'll shoot at the first rustle of leaves he hears.

Campag4life

Mostly because he was yesterday's news and his success as the first Amercan to win the TdF...a pretty unthinkable taste to go into Europe's backyard and beat their best...the home of cycling...was eclipsed by Lance's pseudo successive wins which later were learned to be what made with an asterisk.
This is when Trek hooked their wagon to Lance's star.

Campag4life

Man...you don't get out much. Really? You must of forgotten how Tiger amassed his fortune by his image aside from winning golf tournaments. He portrayed himself as the quintessential family man. He not only cheated on his wife but he also cheated who he was the the public. Michael Jordan or Charles Barkley never portrayed themselves as consummate family men because the weren't. Both were known womanizers. I am no prude and I like both of those guys. Basically what you saw is what you got. On the subject of cool black champions, Shack sets the bar high. When it comes to being a good guy Shack>>>>Colby and of course its no secret how they feel about one another. Shack is right.

Tiger is the exact opposite of who he portrayed himself as. His whole life has been a lie in fact. I grew up playing competitive golf. I know a lot of guys in cycling don't know anything about golf. They don't know a flop shot from a high draw. I know a lot about it and virtually all I know close to the sport believe he is the biggest ******* to ever tee it up. Yeah I honestly think he is lower than low. The scum of the earth basically.
Btw, we could have an in depth conversion about how Tiger Wood was created at the knee of his daddy who was a green beret in Nam. Tiger an only and lonely child growing up has always had a serious identity crisis. Part of what molded him into the selfish prick he is was due to being discriminated against when he came up through junior golf. He basically was beating the best white players in America and he faced a lot of discrimination. My personal view is, he can't overcome it...that and his sense of entitlement because of how he was raised.

Campag4life

I suppose some things are just too heinous to be forgiven. I believe what Lance did to Lemond's reputation including threats qualifies as unforgivable.

Jed19

Man, what an excellent armchair psychologist or psychiatrist you are! Sure, I most likely don't know much about golf, but I'll like to think I know bull**** when I see it. If Tiger is what you say he is, then how come he's brought all those audience we keep hearing about to golf? Nobody is perfect, but Tiger did not kill anyone.

Sense of entitlement? He is a frigging golfer who works hard for his money. If you don't like him, don't buy whatever he is pushing.

And if Tiger makes you mad, how about your comment re Lindsey Vonn? Another case of "sense of entitlement?"

Tiger Woods is not a horrible human being! There were founding fathers of the USA who were talking about freedom while boinking their slaves. And there were also many respected ex-presidents who were adulterers.

Lay off Tiger Woods.

Campag4life

I will never lay off Tiger Woods and you will never become any smarter about him or the sport he plays. You admitted you don't know anything about him. I know a lot about him including his long time caddie Stevie Williams he threw under the bus after multiple major wins.
Why did he engender interest if not incredulity in golf? Two reasons. A black man has never dominated a lilly white game before. There has never been another with his athleticism play like he did before. Now btw, the athletes are coming out and Tiger is getting pummeled. With his broken down body he can no longer compete. Prediction? He may contend on the PGA tour but he will never win another major. Other reason for his popularity? Ignorance. You are the poster boy in fact. You don't know anything about him, or about golf or how he has changed his golf swing...or all the coaches he has had and thrown under the bus...or the waitress out in the parking lot that he used to bang after visiting the restaurant with his wife and kids and all the other girls he threw under the bus as yesterday's garbage when the $h!t hit the fan and they found out about one another and of course his wife found out about them. No he isn't a killer. Is that your bar for acceptability? Maybe you are a Barry Bonds fan...lol. Tiger Woods is however the scum of the earth and btw, I am not saying it is all his fault. Tiger was created by domineering parents, in some ways a victim of his talent and a discriminating society. A nexus that created a man that could hit a golf ball beyond the pale but otherwise a selfish, despicable human being. If there is a hero in golf, there are many to choose from. Pick Lee Trevino who grew up poor caddying for rich white men without a father and became the no.1 player in the world and beat the man regarded as the greatest ever to play, Jack Nichlaus...a major record Tiger will never match. Lee Trevino who was a short puggy Mexican had every reason to go wayward or be bitter and he was completely the opposite. Or take Arnold Palmer, the ambassador of the game...the man who put golf on the map in the 60's. All Tiger Woods did was lower the decorum of the sport. He stained it with his foul mouth and ranting on the course when things didn't go his way. You never saw that from any of the great champions.

thehammerdog

LANCE did bang Cheryl Crow so goody for him...

Campag4life

Maybe we should start a thread to determine if Cheryl Crow is hot? I don't really think so but no doubt others do.
I like full figured girls and to me she is shaped more like a boy. Btw, Tiger doesn't like 'em that way either.

Jed19

You are full of it! When I said I don't know much about golf, I did not mean I know nothing about the game. I used to play almost every weekend some few years back, so while I might not have played competitive golf, I am well conversant with the game. And the most imaginative/creative shot-maker (both the long and short game)I ever saw is Tiger Woods when he was winning regularly a few years ago.

And what is the crap about looking for heros insport? Very juvenile, in my view. These are athletes, who basically, are entertainers.

And he had the right to fire Stevie Williams, an employee who turned out to be a racist piece of crap. And like I said, adultery is no crime! Tiger, his ex-wife and therapist know what is true re why he strayed. I don't pretend to know why married people strayed, as it is really none of my business.

You don't like him? fine, but stop the armchair psychoanalysis and stay off his case!

thehammerdog

Here she was very Hot and talented...& rich.
Sheryl Crow not hypocritical anti-war celeb shocker -

Campag4life

For you to call Williams a racist piece of crap says it all.
It was the guy he worked for aka Tiger who is the piece of crap. Williams is a stand up guy and will add was instrumental to Tiger's success. You want to know who the psychiatrist was? It was Williams for putting up with the biggest head case ever to tee it up. How many majors has Tiger won off his bag? Says it all. Ask Harmon and Haney...the other two guys who were hugely instrumental in making Woods a success. How do they feel about him? They both hate his guts and for good reason.

Campag4life

Crow isn't nearly as hot as Rachael Uchitel Tiger paid $10 million to keep quiet about their affair. Its pretty obvious that Uchitel knew things about Wood's exploits he didn't want out in the public.


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