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Old 12-16-05, 08:47 AM   #1101
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Okay, I'm bored and I could use an opinion or two, so here goes ...
Nice. Sounds pretty solid to me. I wouldn't run egg beaters if I were you though. I know some people love them, but they are not very robust. Pedals should never use a bushing in place of a bearing-ever. Plus, when you smack them on a curb-and you will on a fixie, they tend to get bent. They are a nead design, and light, but I think there are better pedals (that don't look as cool, but....)
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Okay, I'm bored and I could use an opinion or two, so here goes ...

Spring Bike Build (best bang for the buck):

Frameset:
frame - IRO Angus (56cm, black like my future)
fork - Bike Works NYC straight blade - or - dig through the pile of used forks at work

Wheelset:
rims - Mavic CXP33 (silver, 32/32)
hubs - Formula (silver, fixed / free, 120mm)
spokes - DT Revolution (silver, 2/1.5/2)
nipples - brass
tires - Vittoria Rubino (black like my future, 23mm)

Drivetrain:
cranks - Miche Primato Pista (165mm)
chainring - 48 tooth (1/8")
bottom bracket - Miche Primato Pista (107mm)
chain - KMC Z510HX (1/8")
sprocket - EAI 17 tooth (1/8")
freewheel - White Industries 16/18 double freewheel (3/32" I'm assuming, 1/8" if I can get it)
lockring - Dura-Ace
pedals - MKS GR-9 + MKS mini clips - or - Crank Brothers Eggbeaters SL

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saddle - Selle Italia SLR
seatpost - Kalloy aero Campagnolo rip-off

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headset - Shimano 105, Ultegra ... something w/ a cartridge bearing - suggestions?
stem - threaded ... depends on bars - suggestions?
bars - dunno ... "won" an eBay auction for some Mavic pursuit bars, but the seller disapeared
grips - cheesy Keirin grips
brake - Tektro ... dual pivot caliper ... RX 40, RX 20G, 423AG (silver) - suggestions?
brake lever - Tektro cyclocross (silver)
Looks like a sweet build. I would suggest a Campy B.B. instead of the Miche....The miche B.B. is a really cheap unit and they have a tendency to creak...I think because of the dual adjustable cup design. Most of the folks I know running Miche cranks are using Campy for the B.B. and have had much better results with it. Miche does offer an upgraded B.B. over the Primato unit...If you go with Miche you may want to consider that one.
The Shimano headset is a pretty good choice...they are pretty durable and itès easy to get replacement bearings for em when they wear out.
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freewheel - White Industries 16/18 double freewheel (3/32" I'm assuming, 1/8" if I can get it)
I think I want to get one of these freewheels for my trials bike... after chewing a 2nd derailure off it early this year and never changing gears I always though it'd be a cool idea to just set it up as a single speed.... but this double White Industries thing is like a bmx freewheel with 2 sprockets no?

how much do they cost??


your sping build looks dope!!

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Old 12-16-05, 09:51 AM   #1104
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Me back in May on a tbn ride. On the left.

Yeah yeah it's not fixed.

i like yer fork. very tasteful.
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bars - dunno ... "won" an eBay auction for some Mavic pursuit bars, but the seller disapeared
grips - cheesy Keirin grips
your build is beginning to sound like best bang for the somewhat-big bucks! but like you said, it's giftmas.

keirin grips ain't cheesy!! they grippy. float, what colour were you thinking of getting?
how about nitto drops and stem if you're going for a track-look. they're not the lightest but who cares.
oh, unless iro is spec'ing the nyc bikeworks fork along with the frame, perhaps you could do some forum searches on "bikeworks".. some bad buzz.

on a separate note:
i'm running a cxp-33 up front (sweetness) and a drc in back. does anyone else think it's easier to change a tire on an aero-rim vs. a box rim? i swear, the difference is night and day. or maybe it's my mad skillz... in fact, i'm really tempted to get a cxp for the back now too.... or maybe i should just ride my tubulars on the street. heh..
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or maybe i should just ride my tubulars on the street. heh..[/QUOTE]
Only if you are good at sewing as well as patching tubes.
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Old 12-16-05, 12:26 PM   #1107
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or maybe i should just ride my tubulars on the street. heh..
Only if you are good at sewing as well as patching tubes.[/QUOTE]
keith, i'm good at neither, and that was a jab at you. please don't sell my wheels. and yes, i have to pick them up.
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Where have I been in this thread? Oh well! Heres a catch up: Having a winter beater is necessary, and you will enjoy riding so much more when you can treat the bike like the incredibly useful tool it is (ie. not your girlfriend). I have in fact become so attached to my winter beater that I (almost) prefer it to speedy bike. Eyefloater: nice sounding build, you'll be rocking the same bars that I am (if they ever make it to you). Gokiburi, get your damn sannino off the road you tyrant! I just want to say again how sweet and buttery and bombproof my tied cxp-33/level wheelset is.

Also, did I see someone here on tuesday afternoon riding a black fixie left off of bloor onto bathurst (probably coming from curbside)? I'm in Paris again (for christmas), and the bike shops here are either big sports stores with a decent enough bike section with some road and mountain bikes ranging from crap to decent, or super boutique stores with all CF colnagos in the windows speced with crazy crazy parts going for 4000 euros. Also they have everything you could ever think of branded with colnago, in case people can't already tell you have a sweet ride. There is no real 'pignon-fixe' scene here though, despite the velodromes, and none of the shops seem to carry fixie stuff.

Now below are pictures of my 3 bikes. The grey one has new wheels and tires now (cxp33s/level/conti-gp3000), the blue one now has the wheels and tires off of the grey bike, and has since been given back its original fork and lost its brakes and had its fenders replaced with full coverage, as well as some high-vis lights and an ever so sexy rack. I also replaced the bars with the flopped and chopped original nitto road bars that came with the bike, and put on campy strada GS cranks off of my bmx. In fact the only parts on it that are the same as in the picture are the frame, seatpost and saddle (new headset and bb even!), I should probably just take another picture of the darn thing. The silver bike is in pieces in the shed waiting to be rebuilt as a not-quite-as-insane fixed gear bmx I intend to mess around on and attempt to hurt myself doing tricks. No pics of me as I am on the parental laptop, but I assure you I bear a stunning resemblance to Ghostface Killah.
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Old 12-16-05, 01:58 PM   #1109
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Only if you are good at sewing as well as patching tubes.
keith, i'm good at neither, and that was a jab at you. please don't sell my wheels. and yes, i have to pick them up.[/QUOTE]
Wheels? What wheels? I assure you I have no idea what you are talkin about! lol
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This may be totally out of this thread, but I feel like I know you guys like family now. *weep*.
I have a sweet trials bike I'm trying to sell, and it's in super condition (Selling in order to buy another bike. Guilty!). Does anyone know of a friend of a friend or anyone who is in the market currently for a trials bike like a NORCO moment (in the T.O. area)?

Worth a check right? Note: This is not an ad, Suckas!

If anyone wasnts to see a pic or two I'll post them. Just PM me!!

P.S. it's a single speed trials bike, so I think it totally counts.

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Wow, a pile of useful responses ... craziness!

Eggbeaters: I hear such polarizing responses about those, but you raise a good point. I've got a set of the GR-9's already and they're nice - might use those. I may also just tear the Suntour Cyclones off my current bike and replace the straps / cages. Who knows ...

Bottom Bracket: Isn't that Campagnolo one ~$85 more than the Miche? If you think it's worth the extra cash, I'll certainly go with the word of Keith over the word of Mike (Hi, I'm Mike).

Freewheel: They retail for ~$105 I think ...

Pursuit Bar Debacle: weird situation ... I won the auction, but the guy never responded to my request for a shipping charge. He just dropped off the face of the planet and no money ever changed hands. Weird situation, since he had close to 100 good feedback responses. *shrug*

Grips: The rest of the bike is going to be monochromatic with all the logos peeled off (no Mavic / IRO logos ... if I find out how to do it, I'll get the logo off the cranks too). I'll likely go completely overboard w/ the grips and get my sea foam green on.

Bike Works NYC: Were you thinking NYCBikes? I've heard bad things about them, but good reviews about Bike Works ...
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Hey all. I just talked to the guy with all the beater frames. He has a whole crapload of bikes but only 15-20 of them are probably worthwhile for conversion duty. The price he quoted me, $20, was for the crappy department store bikes. For the road frames..and he has a few complete bikes as well, he wants between $40 and $100. There are a few Bianchi's..one with all old 600 parts...several Peugeot's...a couple of Miele's and some other ones I am not that familiar with. In any case the deal is whatever he sells em for you will get a tax receipt from the M.S. society. So a good deal and all the $ goes to a worthwhile charity. He told me he comes to TO. on a regular basis and would be willing to drop off a load here at the shop. If anyone is interested let me know what sizes you require and I will get him to bring the applicable sized frames by for your perusal. A small donation of beer or pork buns for this service would be appreciated
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Wow, a pile of useful responses ... craziness!

Eggbeaters: I hear such polarizing responses about those, but you raise a good point. I've got a set of the GR-9's already and they're nice - might use those. I may also just tear the Suntour Cyclones off my current bike and replace the straps / cages. Who knows ...

Bottom Bracket: Isn't that Campagnolo one ~$85 more than the Miche? If you think it's worth the extra cash, I'll certainly go with the word of Keith over the word of Mike (Hi, I'm Mike).

Freewheel: They retail for ~$105 I think ...

Pursuit Bar Debacle: weird situation ... I won the auction, but the guy never responded to my request for a shipping charge. He just dropped off the face of the planet and no money ever changed hands. Weird situation, since he had close to 100 good feedback responses. *shrug*

Grips: The rest of the bike is going to be monochromatic with all the logos peeled off (no Mavic / IRO logos ... if I find out how to do it, I'll get the logo off the cranks too). I'll likely go completely overboard w/ the grips and get my sea foam green on.

Bike Works NYC: Were you thinking NYCBikes? I've heard bad things about them, but good reviews about Bike Works ...
You can get an alloy cupped Campy B.B. for about $35. Most of the high zoot Campy B.B.'s are for use only with high end Campy cranks...it will not work with anything else as the spindle length is like 103 or something.
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He told me he comes to TO. on a regular basis and would be willing to drop off a load here at the shop. If anyone is interested let me know what sizes you require and I will get him to bring the applicable sized frames by for your perusal. A small donation of beer or pork buns for this service would be appreciated
Sweet! I'm very interested, mark me down for a $40 - $100 road frame...56-60cm range.
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Thank you, sir. You are smart in the head.
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I'd also be interested - let's say 54-58cm for me ... what beer do you like?
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Wow thats amazing!
I'm really interested in anything from a 53 - 56cm
and I'd def. bring over a crapload of bbq pork buns... if thats the kinda stuff your into!
and there's tons of other diff types of buns....
pinapple buns
red bean buns
.... and egg tarts... yum.
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I'd also be interested - let's say 54-58cm for me ... what beer do you like?
Isn't all beer good? Anything thats not lite or American.
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Side note:

My girlfriend made me so proud last night. We're sitting there watching some show on the tube and a Bailey's commercial comes on (That one with all the pretty idiots dunking marshmallows in their booze). She scowls at the tv and yells, "Why do people drink that sh*t, anyway? It doesn't even get you drunk! F*ck that." *sigh* ... she's so dreamy.
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Isn't all beer good? Anything thats not lite or American.
the silver bullet it is then.
52-54cm for me please.
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Yeah well my girlfriend told me that she thinks all my (incredibly dorky) bike gear looks hot, and has decided to start winter biking (presumably because of yours truly), even though she just got her full license and has access to cars. Also a few weeks I was riding her home and some jerk peels by us half way in the oncoming lane and she hollers out with incredible gusto "SHARE THE ****ING ROAD *******!" I was very proud to say the least. I'm only going to put her on a fixie if she asks though; I'd feel like some kind of perv if I just gave her one out of the blue
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just out of curiousity...
do you guys drive?
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Do I have a license? Yes.
Can I afford a car in this city? No.
Do I have any desire to own a car? No.
Do I rent cars for out of town trips and whenever I move? Yes.
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I can drive, as in I have a licence. But I don't drive unless I go home to see my parents, and then I use their car. I don't really plan on owning a car as long as I'm living in the City. It's silly. You can't go down one way streets the wrong way, or through parks, run lights, drive drunk, snort coke, smack kids. What are the perks?
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snort coke, smack kids.
those two sold it for me.
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