Professional fit is dumb....
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Professional fit is dumb....
besides cleat adjusting, the only other real adjustment is the seat fore and aft or higher or lower.
bar position is easy for most anyone and changes over time.
what's the fuss about?
bar position is easy for most anyone and changes over time.
what's the fuss about?
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Don't forget shims under cleats, change in insoles, cleat positioning, making sure knee is tracking straight, change in hood thickness, bar tape thickness, wider or narrower bars, longer or shorter stem, stem angle, seatpost offset, power measurement to determine your best hip angle/leg angle for greater power transfer, aero-ness....the list is long.
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I paid for a "full" fit from a local BG fit guy...it was ok I guess.
Pretty much, I had figured out everything save a few minor adjustments. The one main thing I wanted looked at (Cleat adjustment, varus adjustment, etc)...he really wan't interested in messing with, which bummed me out.
I found the wall of expensive "adjustment parts" in the fit-area to be amusing.
Shorter stem? $90
Saddle? $190
Cleat adjustment pads? $20
handlebars? $125
Insoles? $50(with a full shim kit).
You could damn near walk out of there with a $1000 bill if you weren't careful (including the cost of the fit). Funny enough, many of the parts looked to be take-offs...
Pretty much, I had figured out everything save a few minor adjustments. The one main thing I wanted looked at (Cleat adjustment, varus adjustment, etc)...he really wan't interested in messing with, which bummed me out.
I found the wall of expensive "adjustment parts" in the fit-area to be amusing.
Shorter stem? $90
Saddle? $190
Cleat adjustment pads? $20
handlebars? $125
Insoles? $50(with a full shim kit).
You could damn near walk out of there with a $1000 bill if you weren't careful (including the cost of the fit). Funny enough, many of the parts looked to be take-offs...
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I understand what you are saying. After I had my pro fit I just found i didn't like some things so I did what i want. I think the cleats would be hard to do on your own though.
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Don't forget shims under cleats, change in insoles, cleat positioning, making sure knee is tracking straight, change in hood thickness, bar tape thickness, wider or narrower bars, longer or shorter stem, stem angle, seatpost offset, power measurement to determine your best hip angle/leg angle for greater power transfer, aero-ness....the list is long.
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Where on your list is "Start a waving thread"?
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Has anybody ever taken a given bike, rider, shoes, etc.
Then had about 4 different fits done, and seen how much alike or different the end results are ??
Bill
Then had about 4 different fits done, and seen how much alike or different the end results are ??
Bill
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I should point out, that if you're having pain, you can likely get this covered by health insurance. Some physical therapy clinics will do fittings. They usually know their stuff. You need a masters degree in PT (or a PhD soon) to practice. They deal with a lot of injuries and understand body movement very well.
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I should point out, that if you're having pain, you can likely get this covered by health insurance. Some physical therapy clinics will do fittings. They usually know their stuff. You need a masters degree in PT (or a PhD soon) to practice. They deal with a lot of injuries and understand body movement very well.
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It's tedious, but I do my own and it means a lot of tweaks in the garage and then out into the neighborhood.
I have some supination/over-pronation issues with my feet, so I have a pretty impressive combo of cleat and in-shoe wedges that I use.
I have never had a pro bike fit, but IMO, I'd rather adjust in the garage, then take a real ride around the block to gauge feel. I think a real ride with subsequent tweaks is, probably, more effective than riding on a trainer.
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I have some supination/over-pronation issues with my feet, so I have a pretty impressive combo of cleat and in-shoe wedges that I use.
I have never had a pro bike fit, but IMO, I'd rather adjust in the garage, then take a real ride around the block to gauge feel. I think a real ride with subsequent tweaks is, probably, more effective than riding on a trainer.
S
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I jusy got my first fitting. It was good. I was not far off at all with seat positions. My biggest thing though was my handle bars. That got big adjustments but I had no clue really how they should be set up. So I'm happy I got it and it solved a few issue I had and wish I had done it sooner but I don't have the experience to know any better really to do all of it on my own to know what it should feel like.
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I jusy got my first fitting. It was good. I was not far off at all with seat positions. My biggest thing though was my handle bars. That got big adjustments but I had no clue really how they should be set up. So I'm happy I got it and it solved a few issue I had and wish I had done it sooner but I don't have the experience to know any better really to do all of it on my own to know what it should feel like.
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It's a big waste as long as you're not having issues. Then when it happens and you can't fix it on your own it can be a big help. You need to find a good fitter.
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Love this. KIA's everywhere. Never had a problem until I did. My right hip started bothering me. Went to a fitter - he changed a ton of equipment out but it had no effect. A few years later I was still having issues. Did some research and found a fitter who came highly recommended by some people I knew - he took one look at how I was standing and picked up on a leg length issue. I never would have found it and there was no more hip pain. He also adjusted my seatpost height, saddle fore/aft and a slight adjustment on my handlebars. I don't have any soreness after rides anymore. Used to have the dead quads where it hurts to walk downstairs, especially after a long, hard hilly ride. Doesn't happen anymore. Ever. I can ride back to back days and be tired, but not sore, especially no localized soreness. I'm a much more efficient rider.
I think the $150 I spent on the 2nd fitter was worth much more than any piece of cycling equipment I've used.
I think the $150 I spent on the 2nd fitter was worth much more than any piece of cycling equipment I've used.
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