Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Road Cycling
Reload this Page >

crank spinning with wheel in stand

Search
Notices
Road Cycling “It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle.” -- Ernest Hemingway

crank spinning with wheel in stand

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-10-16, 10:36 AM
  #1  
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 4
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
crank spinning with wheel in stand

the wheels have about 500 miles so break in should not be the issue. it only happens when spinning the wheel very fast. and it doesnt sag when i am coasting during a ride. what im not sure if this is a big enough issue to get nashbar to replace them with a new pair. or if its a so what kinda problem. thanks for any answers.
flyingcrank is offline  
Old 03-10-16, 10:43 AM
  #2  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 3,247

Bikes: Moots Vamoots, Colnago C60, Santa Cruz Stigmata CC, and too many other bikes I don't ride

Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 152 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 7 Times in 6 Posts
Huh?

Mechanical doping is the first thought came to my mind
dalava is offline  
Old 03-10-16, 10:52 AM
  #3  
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 4
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
lol its not where near turning the pedals under any kind of power
flyingcrank is offline  
Old 03-10-16, 11:01 AM
  #4  
Custom User Title
 
RPK79's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: SE MN
Posts: 11,239

Bikes: Fuji Roubaix Pro & Quintana Roo Kilo

Mentioned: 40 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2863 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 31 Times in 14 Posts
So the freewheel sticks ever so slightly? You're probably losing valuable watts when coasting.
RPK79 is offline  
Old 03-10-16, 11:21 AM
  #5  
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 4
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by RPK79
So the freewheel sticks ever so slightly? You're probably losing valuable watts when coasting.
ya it is only able to turn the crank when spun very fast. just wanted to make sure this was not a sign that something was going to go bad,since the wheels only have 500 miles. but if its a so what kinda thing,then I'm fine not worrying about it.
flyingcrank is offline  
Old 03-10-16, 11:28 AM
  #6  
Senior Member
 
rmfnla's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: La La Land (We love it!)
Posts: 6,301

Bikes: Gilmour road, Curtlo road; both steel (of course)

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 273 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 10 Times in 9 Posts
It's normal; don't worry about it...
__________________
Today, I believe my jurisdiction ends here...
rmfnla is offline  
Old 03-10-16, 11:30 AM
  #7  
Senior Member
 
rpenmanparker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 28,682

Bikes: 1990 Romic Reynolds 531 custom build, Merlin Works CR Ti custom build, super light Workswell 066 custom build

Mentioned: 109 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6556 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 58 Times in 36 Posts
Right, a little friction inside the freehub. Very common.
__________________
Robert

Originally Posted by LAJ
No matter where I go, here I am...
rpenmanparker is offline  
Old 03-10-16, 11:36 AM
  #8  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 18,138

Bikes: 2 many

Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1266 Post(s)
Liked 323 Times in 169 Posts
Originally Posted by rmfnla
It's normal; don't worry about it...
This ^^^^
2manybikes is offline  
Old 03-10-16, 05:57 PM
  #9  
George Krpan
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Westlake Village, California
Posts: 1,708
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Remove the cassette body, pry out the rubber seal in the rear of the cassette body, and dribble some oil into the cassette body.
GeoKrpan is offline  
Old 03-11-16, 02:15 AM
  #10  
Mr. Dopolina
 
Bob Dopolina's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Taiwan
Posts: 10,217

Bikes: KUUPAS, Simpson VR

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 149 Post(s)
Liked 117 Times in 41 Posts
Originally Posted by rmfnla
It's normal; don't worry about it...
This.

It's just a tiny bit of seal drag.
__________________
BDop Cycling Company Ltd.: bdopcycling.com, facebook, instagram



Bob Dopolina is offline  
Old 03-11-16, 05:46 AM
  #11  
don't try this at home.
 
rm -rf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: N. KY
Posts: 5,940
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 974 Post(s)
Liked 512 Times in 352 Posts
EDIT -- The following responses explained it: Spinning the rear wheel forward by hand moves the chain and so the cranks turn when normally the cranks don't move.

So this post isn't related to the original question.

Originally Posted by flyingcrank
the wheels have about 500 miles so break in should not be the issue. it only happens when spinning the wheel very fast. and it doesnt sag when i am coasting during a ride. what im not sure if this is a big enough issue to get nashbar to replace them with a new pair. or if its a so what kinda problem. thanks for any answers.
and
Originally Posted by flyingcrank
ya it is only able to turn the crank when spun very fast. just wanted to make sure this was not a sign that something was going to go bad,since the wheels only have 500 miles. but if its a so what kinda thing,then I'm fine not worrying about it.
I'm not sure what you are asking. Is it about the bike bouncing in the repair stand when the wheel is cranked fast?

That's normal. The rim joint opposite the valve is heavier than the rest of the wheel, so it's a little out of balance. But it's not a problem at all when riding. Once, on a newly paved, very smooth downhill, I could barely detect the vibration, but not on normal roads.

~~~~~

The other responses think your question is about the wheel slowing down too fast.

With the rear wheel off the ground, grab the tire and spin the wheel with a moderate pull. It should spin for at least 5 seconds (and usually a lot longer than that.) If it stops within a few seconds, something needs adjusting.

Last edited by rm -rf; 03-11-16 at 09:34 AM.
rm -rf is offline  
Old 03-11-16, 08:00 AM
  #12  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Wilmette, IL
Posts: 6,883
Mentioned: 17 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 752 Post(s)
Liked 730 Times in 353 Posts
Wd-40
big chainring is offline  
Old 03-11-16, 08:03 AM
  #13  
Senior Member
 
shoota's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Stillwater, OK
Posts: 7,827
Mentioned: 33 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1872 Post(s)
Liked 692 Times in 468 Posts
Originally Posted by big chainring
Wd-40
Ditto. Put some on the chain while you have it out.
__________________
2014 Cannondale SuperSix EVO 2
2019 Salsa Warbird
shoota is offline  
Old 03-11-16, 08:23 AM
  #14  
Senior Member
 
indyfabz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 39,241
Mentioned: 211 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18415 Post(s)
Liked 15,553 Times in 7,330 Posts
Originally Posted by rm -rf
I'm not sure what you are asking.
What he is saying is that when the bike is in the repair stand and he spins the rear wheel very fast the drive train moves as if he's pedaling.
indyfabz is online now  
Old 03-11-16, 08:30 AM
  #15  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Wilmette, IL
Posts: 6,883
Mentioned: 17 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 752 Post(s)
Liked 730 Times in 353 Posts
Originally Posted by indyfabz
Originally Posted by rm -rf
I'm not sure what you are asking.
What he is saying is that when the bike is in the repair stand and he spins the rear wheel very fast the drive train moves as if he's pedaling.
Could be FFS, Front Freewheeling System.
big chainring is offline  
Old 03-11-16, 08:32 AM
  #16  
Speechless
 
RollCNY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Central NY
Posts: 8,842

Bikes: Felt Brougham, Lotus Prestige, Cinelli Xperience,

Mentioned: 22 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 163 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 39 Times in 16 Posts
Originally Posted by indyfabz
What he is saying is that when the bike is in the repair stand and he spins the rear wheel very fast the drive train moves as if he's pedaling.
Not to be a stickler, but he didn't say that. You inferred it. I inferred the same thing.
RollCNY is offline  
Old 03-11-16, 08:42 AM
  #17  
Non omnino gravis
 
DrIsotope's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: SoCal, USA!
Posts: 8,553

Bikes: Nekobasu, Pandicorn, Lakitu

Mentioned: 119 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4905 Post(s)
Liked 1,731 Times in 958 Posts
Originally Posted by RPK79
So the freewheel sticks ever so slightly? You're probably losing valuable watts when coasting.
This was so perfectly subtle, I think too many people missed it. Well done, sir.
__________________
DrIsotope is offline  
Old 03-11-16, 09:23 AM
  #18  
Senior Member
 
indyfabz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 39,241
Mentioned: 211 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18415 Post(s)
Liked 15,553 Times in 7,330 Posts
Originally Posted by RollCNY
Not to be a stickler, but he didn't say that. You inferred it. I inferred the same thing.
Combine the subject line and the second sentence of the post and I think he did say that, although not as clearly as he could have.
indyfabz is online now  
Old 03-11-16, 12:58 PM
  #19  
Senior Member
 
rmfnla's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: La La Land (We love it!)
Posts: 6,301

Bikes: Gilmour road, Curtlo road; both steel (of course)

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 273 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 10 Times in 9 Posts
Originally Posted by big chainring
Wd-40
Originally Posted by shoota
Ditto. Put some on the chain while you have it out.
WD40 is not a great chain lube...

(Sorry, everyone)
__________________
Today, I believe my jurisdiction ends here...
rmfnla is offline  
Old 03-11-16, 01:01 PM
  #20  
Senior Member
 
shoota's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Stillwater, OK
Posts: 7,827
Mentioned: 33 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1872 Post(s)
Liked 692 Times in 468 Posts
Originally Posted by big chainring
Could be FFS, Front Freewheeling System.
You're on a roll lol.

Originally Posted by DrIsotope
This was so perfectly subtle, I think too many people missed it. Well done, sir.
It wasn't lost on me, beautiful.

Originally Posted by rmfnla
WD40 is not a great chain lube...

(Sorry, everyone)
and you're not even new here...
__________________
2014 Cannondale SuperSix EVO 2
2019 Salsa Warbird
shoota is offline  
Old 03-11-16, 01:09 PM
  #21  
Senior Member
 
rmfnla's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: La La Land (We love it!)
Posts: 6,301

Bikes: Gilmour road, Curtlo road; both steel (of course)

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 273 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 10 Times in 9 Posts
Originally Posted by shoota
and you're not even new here...
I know; no excuse...
__________________
Today, I believe my jurisdiction ends here...
rmfnla is offline  
Old 03-11-16, 01:10 PM
  #22  
Senior Member
 
shoota's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Stillwater, OK
Posts: 7,827
Mentioned: 33 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1872 Post(s)
Liked 692 Times in 468 Posts
Originally Posted by rmfnla
I know; no excuse...
Just don't let it happen again lol
__________________
2014 Cannondale SuperSix EVO 2
2019 Salsa Warbird
shoota is offline  
Old 03-12-16, 06:42 AM
  #23  
Senior Member
 
Looigi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 8,951
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 14 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 13 Times in 12 Posts
Look at the bright side. It could be your BB bearings have very little drag.
Looigi is offline  
Old 03-12-16, 04:18 PM
  #24  
Senior Member
 
Doge's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Southern California, USA
Posts: 10,475

Bikes: 1979 Raleigh Team 753

Mentioned: 153 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3375 Post(s)
Liked 371 Times in 253 Posts
Originally Posted by RPK79
So the freewheel sticks ever so slightly? You're probably losing valuable watts when coasting.
That's why I remove seals and pawls from my son's wheels. Better coasting makes you faster.
Doge is offline  
Old 03-12-16, 08:30 PM
  #25  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Wilmette, IL
Posts: 6,883
Mentioned: 17 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 752 Post(s)
Liked 730 Times in 353 Posts
I removed Seals and Crofts from my son's wheels. It was a bad scene man.
big chainring is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.